If you could only have one....

**4V50 Gary** · November 20, 1998, 12:09 AM

OK, if you could only have one selective fire weapon, what would it be?

Bottom Gun · November 20, 1998, 01:53 PM

I'd opt for an AR-18

David · November 20, 1998, 03:36 PM

What is this new device that replaces the
back plate on a Glock and converts it to select fire?

Check out www.fss-g.com

ATF hasn't called me back yet, but can't you
get a FORM 1 tax stamp on that with your Glock?

[email protected] · November 20, 1998, 04:19 PM

M-249 SAW, because it's just so much darn fun. Since the only time you really need select fire is in a support capacity anyways....

Spark

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Hilton · November 21, 1998, 10:50 AM

M16 family, either CAR15 or M4. Easy, cheap parts replacement. The MP5 is great, but parts and mags are a hassle.

Kodiac · November 25, 1998, 03:54 PM

HK G36K, with lots of them cool add on's.
A, its an HK and B it's in .223, not a pistol caliber.

Of course, as long as I am dreaming here why not the Soviet 14.7MM heavy machine gun? What can't you take out with that?

No No... I want a the 30MM Avenger Cannon out of an A-10! Mount it in the back of my V10 powered Dodge... What Could be better?

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JKump · December 1, 1998, 09:27 PM

If I could have only one it would be the H&K 53. It gives you a .223 in an almost sub-gun format( it is a touch bigger than an mp5). It can give you full auto close quarter fire or works well as a permiter support weapon that gives you more punch than those with handgun ammo. Last but not least it is an H&K know for their reliablity.

ShadedDude · December 2, 1998, 01:09 AM

MP5...as Kodiac said...its a HK, and its got tons of parts to play with!

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David · December 2, 1998, 05:29 PM

Vollmer conversion Model 51.

Similar to a G3KA4, but shorter. You can shoot full power (if your ears can stand .308 from an 8.5" barrel) and the compensator works! Or, you can shoot reduced power loads but still have the bigger bullet punch. It's rare that I have so much fun shooting a firearm, and this one fills the bill! HOO YA!

Rob Pincus · December 3, 1998, 05:27 PM

Glock 18 with a folding Glock-stock. I can't imagine a situation where you would need or desire FA at long range.

BTW, that piece that changes your Glock to full auto is legal only if you have a Class III manufacturers license or if you buy it as a post-86 dealer sample.

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Gattling · December 18, 1998, 07:58 PM

H&K MP5/10.
A)It's a HK
B)it's a MP 5
C)Shoots 10mmNorma and isn't likely to wear out soon

For nostalgia Suomi M-31 9mmPara.
Nice to have a 50 or 70 round drum

Besides russian PPsh is a poor quality simplified copy of above.

Rob Pincus · December 18, 1998, 08:01 PM

A friend of mine shoots clays with his 9mm Suomi. He loads mags with straight Vector ammo, looks like a laser beam. Pretty cool.

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christian · December 24, 1998, 02:00 PM

Just one? Rifle; m-16. Handgun glock model 18. Or a Calico. Or an old Bushmaster with a folding stock. Nah A GALIL!

James · December 28, 1998, 02:26 AM

Steyr AUG

Shorter and Lighter than AR-15 30 rds .223 and a mean looking SOB

. · December 29, 1998, 01:13 PM

Selective-fire Amphibian. Quiet, concealable, and cheap to shoot.

[This message has been edited by Mykl (edited 12-29-98).]

Richard SIA · January 1, 1999, 01:51 AM

Only one?
Sterling L2A3 or L34A1 9mm.
Control and reliability.

Art Eatman · January 1, 1999, 04:33 PM

So long as I'm dreaming and drooling, I'd like my old (from Korea, Class of '54) half-track with a quad-fifty mount in back. And a couple or four of you guys, and a much bigger bank account...NOW THAT'S BY GOD ROCK AND ROLL!

Just me and my present world, I still like the old BAR. I'd get more hits at 400-500 meters than with any other one-man critter.

Of course, my notion of close-combat is a .30-'06 at 400 yards or so...

While full-auto is the neatest way there is to turn money into noise, it's still God's way of telling you that you have too much money!

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! Art

Dennis · January 5, 1999, 01:14 PM

For turning money into noise, how about Puff? As in "Puff the Magic Dragon".
Not first-hand, thank God, but I have seen the concept in the C-47 & C-130. You not only get firepower but a means of commuting!

Puff: "Dallas tower this is Puff. Am I number one to land or do I till your soil..."

Okay, Rich, so I got a "little" carried away.

[This message has been edited by Dennis (edited 01-05-99).]

(Blush) OK. C-130 was Spectre, sorry.

[This message has been edited by Dennis (edited 01-06-99).]

**4V50 Gary** · January 8, 1999, 11:25 AM

OK, I'll fess up that I originally go with an M2 machinegun. Then Art Eatmen's suggestion of the M16 quad 50 halftrack won me over. A little is good, more is better and too much is just about right definitely applies here.

Dennis - like the commute suggestion, but since I don't fly to work, the M16 will have to get me through the commute. Sure it's slower than a mustang, but what you can't outrun, you'll outshoot!

chink · January 8, 1999, 01:55 PM

If any of you guys get maxim magazine they have a cool article (ok pictures with prices) of military surplus vehicles that have been refurbished and you can buy, like a russian t-34. nothing like a t-72 or an M1A1 abram, but it would make merging on the freeway a lot more fun. also a bunch of cool misc military surplus articles, b-52/B-1 helmets that protect the pilot against nuclear blasts, bazooka, etc. check it out.

Rob Pincus · January 8, 1999, 02:13 PM

Okay, I just gotsta know.... who much to put a tank in the front yard?

chink · January 8, 1999, 07:04 PM

the cheapest one they had was 18,000, some sort of eastern bloc apc i think. a Vietnam Era Amphibous land vehicle, refurbished was going for like 50,000.

chink · January 15, 1999, 12:05 PM

I finally got my issue of maxim. the t-34/85 a russian ww2 era tank is $40,000,
the dune buggy thing that we used in the gulf is going for 26,000,
the vietnam amphibious land vehicle is like 80,000
so if you have the money and need a new ride, think about it.

Gattling · January 19, 1999, 05:03 AM

Ahem. Russian BTR-60 or 80 Ambhious wheeled APC is around $12000-14000 in here. New and taxes & customs paid.
I'm not certain if the 12,7X105 or 14.5B
calibered HMG on the turrett is extra. But one gets a hefty load of spares with the vehicles as usually with russian hardware.

If U buy 2 U'll allso get a "UAZ" jeep and trailer that carries the spares delievered with the APCs.

Allthou I think that Valmet Pasi is better in the same range (but with multiplied price)
but if one collects warsaw pact militaria...

The Pasi cann allso be had with Ambulance gear as used in UN peacekeeping troops armored ambulances.

Gatt...

PS. Isn't that "buggy thang" called FAV aka Fast Attack Vehicle ?

chink · January 19, 1999, 12:29 PM

Yeah that buggy thang is call the fast attack Vehicle, I couldn't think of the V I knew it was fast attack something, but I didn't remember the V thanks.

Things may be cheaper over there, but the shipping is less, I mean you can drive it from Russia to Finland, but you can't realistically drive one from russia to the US. So things are gonna be a little more expansive, plus, our politicians are stupid. in they're attempt to protect us, they made us prisioners in our own homes.

garrick

November 20, 1998, 12:09 AM	#1
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,843	OK, if you could only have one selective fire weapon, what would it be?

November 20, 1998, 01:53 PM	#2
Bottom Gun Senior Member Join Date: October 13, 1998 Location: Arizona Territory Posts: 1,092	I'd opt for an AR-18

November 20, 1998, 03:36 PM	#3
David Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 1999 Posts: 121	What is this new device that replaces the back plate on a Glock and converts it to select fire? Check out www.fss-g.com ATF hasn't called me back yet, but can't you get a FORM 1 tax stamp on that with your Glock?

November 20, 1998, 04:19 PM	#4
[email protected] Wise Guy Join Date: October 10, 1998 Posts: 665	M-249 SAW, because it's just so much darn fun. Since the only time you really need select fire is in a support capacity anyways.... Spark ------------------ Kevin Jon Schlossberg SysOp and Administrator for BladeForums.com http://www.bladeforums.com

November 21, 1998, 10:50 AM	#5
Hilton Member Join Date: October 14, 1998 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 69	M16 family, either CAR15 or M4. Easy, cheap parts replacement. The MP5 is great, but parts and mags are a hassle.

November 25, 1998, 03:54 PM	#6
Kodiac Senior Member Join Date: August 16, 1999 Posts: 1,173	HK G36K, with lots of them cool add on's. A, its an HK and B it's in .223, not a pistol caliber. Of course, as long as I am dreaming here why not the Soviet 14.7MM heavy machine gun? What can't you take out with that? No No... I want a the 30MM Avenger Cannon out of an A-10! Mount it in the back of my V10 powered Dodge... What Could be better? ------------------ Kodiac Kenetic Defence Institute [email protected]

December 1, 1998, 09:27 PM	#7
JKump Senior Member Join Date: November 30, 1998 Location: Middle Georgia Posts: 428	If I could have only one it would be the H&K 53. It gives you a .223 in an almost sub-gun format( it is a touch bigger than an mp5). It can give you full auto close quarter fire or works well as a permiter support weapon that gives you more punch than those with handgun ammo. Last but not least it is an H&K know for their reliablity.

December 2, 1998, 01:09 AM	#8
ShadedDude Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 1998 Location: TN Posts: 254	MP5...as Kodiac said...its a HK, and its got tons of parts to play with! ------------------ Mouse Assassins inc.

December 2, 1998, 05:29 PM	#9
David Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 1999 Posts: 121	Vollmer conversion Model 51. Similar to a G3KA4, but shorter. You can shoot full power (if your ears can stand .308 from an 8.5" barrel) and the compensator works! Or, you can shoot reduced power loads but still have the bigger bullet punch. It's rare that I have so much fun shooting a firearm, and this one fills the bill! HOO YA!

December 3, 1998, 05:27 PM	#10
Rob Pincus Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 1998 Location: Hotels Posts: 3,668	Glock 18 with a folding Glock-stock. I can't imagine a situation where you would need or desire FA at long range. BTW, that piece that changes your Glock to full auto is legal only if you have a Class III manufacturers license or if you buy it as a post-86 dealer sample. ------------------ *-Essayons*

December 18, 1998, 07:58 PM	#11
Gattling Member Join Date: December 18, 1998 Location: Lappeenranta, Finnland Posts: 49	H&K MP5/10. A)It's a HK B)it's a MP 5 C)Shoots 10mmNorma and isn't likely to wear out soon For nostalgia Suomi M-31 9mmPara. Nice to have a 50 or 70 round drum Besides russian PPsh is a poor quality simplified copy of above.

December 18, 1998, 08:01 PM	#12
Rob Pincus Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 1998 Location: Hotels Posts: 3,668	A friend of mine shoots clays with his 9mm Suomi. He loads mags with straight Vector ammo, looks like a laser beam. Pretty cool. ------------------ *-Essayons*

December 24, 1998, 02:00 PM	#13
christian Member Join Date: December 24, 1998 Location: florida,usa Posts: 24	Just one? Rifle; m-16. Handgun glock model 18. Or a Calico. Or an old Bushmaster with a folding stock. Nah A GALIL!

December 28, 1998, 02:26 AM	#14
James Junior Member Join Date: December 28, 1998 Location: Atlanta, GA U.S.A. Posts: 2	Steyr AUG Shorter and Lighter than AR-15 30 rds .223 and a mean looking SOB

December 29, 1998, 01:13 PM	#15
. Senior Member Join Date: October 6, 1998 Location: My wife's house... Posts: 2,659	Selective-fire Amphibian. Quiet, concealable, and cheap to shoot. [This message has been edited by Mykl (edited 12-29-98).]

January 1, 1999, 01:51 AM	#16
Richard SIA Junior Member Join Date: October 21, 1998 Location: Gardnerville, NV. USA Posts: 14	Only one? Sterling L2A3 or L34A1 9mm. Control and reliability.

January 1, 1999, 04:33 PM	#17
Art Eatman Staff in Memoriam Join Date: November 13, 1998 Location: Terlingua, TX; Thomasville, GA Posts: 24,798	So long as I'm dreaming and drooling, I'd like my old (from Korea, Class of '54) half-track with a quad-fifty mount in back. And a couple or four of you guys, and a much bigger bank account...NOW THAT'S BY GOD ROCK AND ROLL! Just me and my present world, I still like the old BAR. I'd get more hits at 400-500 meters than with any other one-man critter. Of course, my notion of close-combat is a .30-'06 at 400 yards or so... While full-auto is the neatest way there is to turn money into noise, it's still God's way of telling you that you have too much money! HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! Art

January 5, 1999, 01:14 PM	#18
Dennis Staff Emeritus Join Date: November 23, 1998 Location: a small forest in Texas Posts: 7,079	For turning money into noise, how about Puff? As in "Puff the Magic Dragon". Not first-hand, thank God, but I have seen the concept in the C-47 & C-130. You not only get firepower but a means of commuting! Puff: "Dallas tower this is Puff. Am I number one to land or do I till your soil..." Okay, Rich, so I got a "little" carried away. [This message has been edited by Dennis (edited 01-05-99).] (Blush) OK. C-130 was Spectre, sorry. [This message has been edited by Dennis (edited 01-06-99).]

January 8, 1999, 11:25 AM	#19
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,843	OK, I'll fess up that I originally go with an M2 machinegun. Then Art Eatmen's suggestion of the M16 quad 50 halftrack won me over. A little is good, more is better and too much is just about right definitely applies here. Dennis - like the commute suggestion, but since I don't fly to work, the M16 will have to get me through the commute. Sure it's slower than a mustang, but what you can't outrun, you'll outshoot!

January 8, 1999, 01:55 PM	#20
chink Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 1998 Location: saratoga, ca, usa Posts: 806	If any of you guys get maxim magazine they have a cool article (ok pictures with prices) of military surplus vehicles that have been refurbished and you can buy, like a russian t-34. nothing like a t-72 or an M1A1 abram, but it would make merging on the freeway a lot more fun. also a bunch of cool misc military surplus articles, b-52/B-1 helmets that protect the pilot against nuclear blasts, bazooka, etc. check it out.

January 8, 1999, 02:13 PM	#21
Rob Pincus Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 1998 Location: Hotels Posts: 3,668	Okay, I just gotsta know.... who much to put a tank in the front yard?

January 8, 1999, 07:04 PM	#22
chink Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 1998 Location: saratoga, ca, usa Posts: 806	the cheapest one they had was 18,000, some sort of eastern bloc apc i think. a Vietnam Era Amphibous land vehicle, refurbished was going for like 50,000.

January 15, 1999, 12:05 PM	#23
chink Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 1998 Location: saratoga, ca, usa Posts: 806	I finally got my issue of maxim. the t-34/85 a russian ww2 era tank is $40,000, the dune buggy thing that we used in the gulf is going for 26,000, the vietnam amphibious land vehicle is like 80,000 so if you have the money and need a new ride, think about it.

January 19, 1999, 05:03 AM	#24
Gattling Member Join Date: December 18, 1998 Location: Lappeenranta, Finnland Posts: 49	Ahem. Russian BTR-60 or 80 Ambhious wheeled APC is around $12000-14000 in here. New and taxes & customs paid. I'm not certain if the 12,7X105 or 14.5B calibered HMG on the turrett is extra. But one gets a hefty load of spares with the vehicles as usually with russian hardware. If U buy 2 U'll allso get a "UAZ" jeep and trailer that carries the spares delievered with the APCs. Allthou I think that Valmet Pasi is better in the same range (but with multiplied price) but if one collects warsaw pact militaria... The Pasi cann allso be had with Ambulance gear as used in UN peacekeeping troops armored ambulances. Gatt... PS. Isn't that "buggy thang" called FAV aka Fast Attack Vehicle ?

January 19, 1999, 12:29 PM	#25
chink Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 1998 Location: saratoga, ca, usa Posts: 806	Yeah that buggy thang is call the fast attack Vehicle, I couldn't think of the V I knew it was fast attack something, but I didn't remember the V thanks. Things may be cheaper over there, but the shipping is less, I mean you can drive it from Russia to Finland, but you can't realistically drive one from russia to the US. So things are gonna be a little more expansive, plus, our politicians are stupid. in they're attempt to protect us, they made us prisioners in our own homes. garrick