Price checks on a few guns?

Jamie Young · August 21, 2006, 09:55 PM

Just looking for ball park numbers. I haven't looked into getting a Class III firearm for a few years and I know prices have gone up.

Approx price ranges for:

AC556 - Standard configuration

MP5-

AK47

M16

Uzi-9mm

shaggy · August 21, 2006, 10:10 PM

AC556 - Standard configuration - about $6k
MP5-about $14-15k
AK47 - $15k+
M16 $10k+
Uzi-9mm $6k-7k.

Since you're in SE PA, I'd really recommend you take a look at www.jbarms.com and www.davidspiwak.com Both guys are local and having dealt with both Howard and David, I'd highly recommend them.

GeorgeF · August 22, 2006, 02:49 PM

Shaggy's numbers are dead-on. Look around enough and talk to enough people and sometimes you can find a better deal. But those numbers are pretty solid. THIS year.

'75Scout · August 22, 2006, 06:00 PM

Why is the AK47 more than an M16? Is it because the M16s are not imported?

TNT · August 22, 2006, 06:35 PM

good question Scout I would think that the 16 holds more value

shaggy · August 22, 2006, 06:40 PM

Some of the more rare Colt M16's (M16A2, factory 635's, etc.) can top AK47 prices, but most don't. The reason is simple supply and demand; there were far more M16s and converted AR15's registered back before the May 1986 cutoff than AK47s.

GeorgeF · August 23, 2006, 10:29 AM

Bingo. Tracking down a REAL AK-47 in its original format (not a semi-auto or parts gun converted) is very hard to find. Then throw in the other multiple effects:
- 1968 ban stopped new ones coming in to the US
- they were Soviet or Comm bloc weapons and as such the chances of obtaining one during height of Cold War was VERY small
- majority were from Vietnam vets as bring backs, and to a lot of collectors 'provenance' adds a premium

M-16's on otherhand were far easier to come by (relatively speaking). There are variants like a M231 port firing version for US APC's that is very rare, and some other variants, but overall its just a simple matter of supply and demand. If you were to remove all the references to AK-47's in movies during the past 30 years, I bet their value would drop just from that alone. People see owning one as a 'cool' factor.

Doesnt hurt that ammo is easy to come by too - MP44 might be pricier if ammo were easier to obtain. But thats just speculation.

Jamie Young · August 23, 2006, 08:51 PM

Are the AC556 still being made?

Asmodeous · August 24, 2006, 11:30 AM

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Jamie Young

Are the AC556 still being made?

Not for sale to civilians since 1986. But Ruger will repair those in private hands.

MeekAndMild · August 24, 2006, 04:23 PM

Too bad. If I didn't know they were just a FA Mini-14 I'd have tempation to buy one. Nothing like shooting 600 rounds per minute in a shotgun pattern.

Do they make any distinction in pricing for registered sear ARs versus registered receiver ARs? I've noticed not much difference for common Uzi variations.

Jamie Young · August 24, 2006, 08:35 PM

Does the AC556 take the same stock as the Mini 14?

Asmodeous · August 25, 2006, 07:36 AM

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MeekAndMild

Do they make any distinction in pricing for registered sear ARs versus registered receiver ARs? I've noticed not much difference for common Uzi variations.

While there are "registered sear" AR's they are pretty rare. What they are is a drop-in auto sear that has been married to a receiver. You can get a registered drop in auto sear (about a quarter sized piece of machined steel or aluminum), for ~ $11,000 and use it in any apprpriate AR lower receiver. The sear is the machine gun.

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Jamie Young

Does the AC556 take the same stock as the Mini 14?

Unlike an M14, the selector is not cut into the stock area.

August 21, 2006, 09:55 PM	#1
Jamie Young Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2000 Location: SE/PA Posts: 4,834	Price checks on a few guns? Just looking for ball park numbers. I haven't looked into getting a Class III firearm for a few years and I know prices have gone up. Approx price ranges for: AC556 - Standard configuration MP5- AK47 M16 Uzi-9mm __________________ Find out about Gun Shows and Training activities. www.TheRallyPoint.org Get your gun club involved!!

August 22, 2006, 06:35 PM	#5
TNT Senior Member Join Date: June 4, 2006 Location: Back in glorious Nebraska Posts: 606	good question Scout I would think that the 16 holds more value __________________ "In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce man and brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."

August 23, 2006, 10:29 AM	#7
GeorgeF Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2004 Posts: 572	Bingo. Tracking down a REAL AK-47 in its original format (not a semi-auto or parts gun converted) is very hard to find. Then throw in the other multiple effects: - 1968 ban stopped new ones coming in to the US - they were Soviet or Comm bloc weapons and as such the chances of obtaining one during height of Cold War was VERY small - majority were from Vietnam vets as bring backs, and to a lot of collectors 'provenance' adds a premium M-16's on otherhand were far easier to come by (relatively speaking). There are variants like a M231 port firing version for US APC's that is very rare, and some other variants, but overall its just a simple matter of supply and demand. If you were to remove all the references to AK-47's in movies during the past 30 years, I bet their value would drop just from that alone. People see owning one as a 'cool' factor. Doesnt hurt that ammo is easy to come by too - MP44 might be pricier if ammo were easier to obtain. But thats just speculation. Last edited by GeorgeF; August 23, 2006 at 10:31 AM. Reason: mistake

August 23, 2006, 08:51 PM	#8
Jamie Young Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2000 Location: SE/PA Posts: 4,834	Are the AC556 still being made? __________________ Find out about Gun Shows and Training activities. www.TheRallyPoint.org Get your gun club involved!!

August 24, 2006, 04:23 PM	#10
MeekAndMild Senior Member Join Date: August 2, 2001 Posts: 4,988	Too bad. If I didn't know they were just a FA Mini-14 I'd have tempation to buy one. Nothing like shooting 600 rounds per minute in a shotgun pattern. Do they make any distinction in pricing for registered sear ARs versus registered receiver ARs? I've noticed not much difference for common Uzi variations. __________________ In a few years when the dust finally clears and people start counting their change there is a pretty good chance that President Obama may become known as The Great Absquatulator. You heard it first here on TFL.

August 21, 2006, 10:10 PM	#2
shaggy Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2004 Posts: 1,519	AC556 - Standard configuration - about $6k MP5-about $14-15k AK47 - $15k+ M16 $10k+ Uzi-9mm $6k-7k. Since you're in SE PA, I'd really recommend you take a look at www.jbarms.com and www.davidspiwak.com Both guys are local and having dealt with both Howard and David, I'd highly recommend them.

August 22, 2006, 02:49 PM	#3
GeorgeF Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2004 Posts: 572	Shaggy's numbers are dead-on. Look around enough and talk to enough people and sometimes you can find a better deal. But those numbers are pretty solid. THIS year.

August 22, 2006, 06:00 PM	#4
'75Scout Senior Member Join Date: August 3, 2005 Location: Central Texas Posts: 815	Why is the AK47 more than an M16? Is it because the M16s are not imported?

August 22, 2006, 06:40 PM	#6
shaggy Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2004 Posts: 1,519	Some of the more rare Colt M16's (M16A2, factory 635's, etc.) can top AK47 prices, but most don't. The reason is simple supply and demand; there were far more M16s and converted AR15's registered back before the May 1986 cutoff than AK47s.

August 24, 2006, 08:35 PM	#11
Jamie Young Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2000 Location: SE/PA Posts: 4,834	Does the AC556 take the same stock as the Mini 14? __________________ Find out about Gun Shows and Training activities. www.TheRallyPoint.org Get your gun club involved!!