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November 18, 2008, 03:56 AM | #1 |
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Wilderness Instructor Belt
Just how stiff are these, initially and long-term vs. for instance a Beltman horsehide with internal stiffener? And do I want the C.S.M. model or 5-stitch, if I were seeking maximum sturdiness (or is the C.S.M. instructor five stitch anyways)?
Pretty much set on a beltman, but reading alot of rave reviews on the Instructor and at how cheap it is just curious how sturdy they are. Pretty much online only, I'm not finding these in any stores? |
November 18, 2008, 08:33 PM | #2 |
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I'm wearing one of the CSM Instructor belts now. I wear it or one of the CSM Ring belts all the time. I like the extra stiffness. And they stay stiff. Never get soft.
Funny, with belts like that, you have to start them on the right instead of the left. Took me a while to get used to that. |
November 19, 2008, 12:44 AM | #3 | |
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November 19, 2008, 12:53 AM | #4 |
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Howsa'bout posting a link for those of us in the dark?
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November 19, 2008, 04:24 AM | #5 |
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I should have linked it up in the O.P., sorry about that Sgt. F.H.
http://store.thewilderness.com/produ...s29f8dke6m3ad5 Supposedly just as sturdy as quality dual-layer leather belts. If so, it would be nice to have such an inexpensive option for days when I know leather will be abused (I.E. thorned brush and/or profuse sweating etc). I'm not a fan of doubling the tail back over with velcro, but at least it provides for an infinite number of buckle "holes" across the sizing range vs. traditional buckles with discrete holes 1" or 3/4" apart. |
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November 19, 2008, 11:48 AM | #8 |
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The wilderness belts are nice, the buckle is pretty heavy and I always debate paying out the big bucks for the Ti buckle.
You can start the belt from the left or right, your preference. I have the 5 stitch and think it is plenty stiff, but if you are after the stiffest available, get the plastic insert. Brownells carries them, if you get the discount there they are pretty cheap. You see them for sale on the boards now and then and they seem to sell, so pick one up, if you don't like it, sell it. |
November 19, 2008, 12:24 PM | #9 |
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With a regular belt, you start from the left and the tag end goes through the buckle and the first belt loop on your left side. If you're right handed, that leaves a clean section of belt on your right for your holster.
If you start on the left with a Wilderness-type belt, there are two problems. The velcro loop stuff sewed to the belt is on the right and makes it harder to get your holster on unless it's too loose to start with. The tag end goes through the buckle and back to the right, sticking to the velcro and getting in the way of the holster. If you're carrying speedloaders, it's even worse. |
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November 28, 2008, 12:07 AM | #11 |
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Well all I have to say is 5 stars on the Wilderness Instructor belts. I own 3 One black with the black buckle 3 stitch, One Tan 5 stitch titanium buckle and one custom 5 stich belt with velcro all around for my Safariland duty belt. The 5 stitch is stiff I cant imagine a C.S.M. model I got the 5 stitch after buying a 3 stitch.... the 3 stitch works very well but I like the added stiffness of the 5 stitch. I dont think you would be disappointed with a 5 stitch for most CCW situations. The nice thing about the Instructor belt is if you get the right size and you gain or lose a few pounds the belt is pretty forgiving. Compared to a nice leather belt the look is different....but I wear one everyday and I do carry a glock 21 CCW at times... so it can handle a large frame pistol without any problems. Good luck with your decision...
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November 28, 2008, 11:12 PM | #12 |
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1 1/2" or 1 3/4" ?
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December 5, 2008, 11:59 PM | #13 |
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I went as wide as the holster and belt loops on my pants allowed.
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