Now here's a strange looking 380 - Page 2

ACP-Steve · January 17, 2014, 09:04 AM

Pretty expensive Zip gun.

I'll wait for the Taurus Knuckle-Buster version that shoots .410 shotshells for a sure ride to the big house (with broken fingers).

g.willikers · January 17, 2014, 09:52 AM

Seems like a decent sized knife would be better for close up self defense.

Dragline45 · January 17, 2014, 10:02 AM

Seems that when folded up it would be thicker than an LCP or Bodyguard 380. I will take the extra length of my Bodyguard and the extra 5 rounds over this contraption.

JN01 · January 17, 2014, 01:40 PM

Wow, that's the most exciting new firearms design since the USFA Zip .22.

jhenry · January 19, 2014, 12:27 PM

If an overpriced awkward 2 shot 380 is revolutionary is guess they have something.

skizzums · January 19, 2014, 03:18 PM

i have emailed twice about the rifling, no response, so who knows, they have this email thing saying that they are excited to take questions and ask anything you need to, so maybe they are not really pushing this thing

Super Sneaky Steve · January 19, 2014, 03:50 PM

It's like someone picked up a Bond Arms derringer and said, this is too affordable, simple and reliable.

What we need is something just like it but expensive, complicated and ugly.

Oh and lets add "hus" to Bond Arms so we don't get sued.

Auto5 · January 19, 2014, 04:40 PM

Makes the DoubleTap look sensible.

Rob62 · January 19, 2014, 06:23 PM

Its a neat and cool shooting novelty. But that is all I see it good for. As for practicality I don't see much there even for a deep cover last ditch type gun.

And if the price tag is anywhere near $800 certainly not for most shooters.

Rob

Boatme98 · January 20, 2014, 11:27 AM

It's really a cigar lighter/mini welder. You can see the needle flame in the first photo.

Glenn E. Meyer · January 21, 2014, 11:15 AM

Here's a video of the gun:

http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/chan...hot-show-2014/

I hate to put down an innovation but what's the advantage over an LCP, except that folks wouldn't know it's a gun?

**Tom Servo** · January 21, 2014, 01:23 PM

Quote:

I hate to put down an innovation but what's the advantage over an LCP, except that folks wouldn't know it's a gun?

That's actually a disadvantage. With a simple pen stroke, the ATF can rule that it's an AOW and thus subject to the NFA. "Any Other Weapon" is a catchall denoting things like pen guns, cane guns, and various other guns that don't look like guns.

Glenn E. Meyer · January 21, 2014, 01:41 PM

That's true. I said before it looks like a part from Home Depot.

Strange.

Bill DeShivs · January 21, 2014, 02:08 PM

Rube Goldberg design!

wayneinFL · January 21, 2014, 03:24 PM

Looks like another solution in search of a problem. Like the DoubleTap titanium derringer.

gav1230 · January 21, 2014, 04:37 PM

Doesn't look like it'd be very fast to get into action.

dajowi · January 21, 2014, 06:34 PM

I see a company going out of business real soon.

DaleA · January 22, 2014, 12:52 AM

Sure I'll pile on now that opinion is against the thing...

Reloading is not as bad as I thought it would be...it's worse!

I could easily see myself dropping what looks to be a third of the gun into the dirt during a reload and I could be wrong here, but it kind of looks like that might get crud into some of the insides that wouldn't take kindly to it.

Hollywood might like it.

B.N.Real · January 22, 2014, 01:00 AM

Smallest, most accurate multishot 380?

There's a lawsuit in that ad.

Any derringer, quality made is better then this joke.

ffs1942 · January 23, 2014, 02:20 AM

Lacks the intimidation of a normal .380 and certainly the ergonomics. Better have a back-up, like a good folding knife.

Actually, could this have not been combined with maybe a push dagger and skip the silly laser?

January 17, 2014, 09:52 AM	#27
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	Seems like a decent sized knife would be better for close up self defense. __________________ Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez: “Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.”

January 19, 2014, 12:27 PM	#30
jhenry Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2006 Location: Ozarks Posts: 1,840	If an overpriced awkward 2 shot 380 is revolutionary is guess they have something. __________________ "A Liberal is someone who doesn't care what you do, as long as it's mandatory". - Charles Krauthammer

January 19, 2014, 03:18 PM	#31
skizzums Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2013 Location: Douglasville, Ga Posts: 4,615	i have emailed twice about the rifling, no response, so who knows, they have this email thing saying that they are excited to take questions and ask anything you need to, so maybe they are not really pushing this thing __________________ My head is bloody, but unbowed

January 19, 2014, 04:40 PM	#33
Auto5 Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2013 Location: Chicago suburbs Posts: 662	Makes the DoubleTap look sensible. __________________ At the young age of five, a bear told me that I was the only person who could prevent forest fires. Why I was chosen, I'll never know.

January 19, 2014, 06:23 PM	#34
Rob62 Senior Member Join Date: June 28, 1999 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 560	Its a neat and cool shooting novelty. But that is all I see it good for. As for practicality I don't see much there even for a deep cover last ditch type gun. And if the price tag is anywhere near $800 certainly not for most shooters. Rob __________________ NRA & NAHC Life Member

January 17, 2014, 09:04 AM	#26
ACP-Steve Junior Member Join Date: January 16, 2014 Posts: 3	Pretty expensive Zip gun. I'll wait for the Taurus Knuckle-Buster version that shoots .410 shotshells for a sure ride to the big house (with broken fingers).

January 17, 2014, 10:02 AM	#28
Dragline45 Senior Member Join Date: November 30, 2010 Posts: 3,513	Seems that when folded up it would be thicker than an LCP or Bodyguard 380. I will take the extra length of my Bodyguard and the extra 5 rounds over this contraption.

January 17, 2014, 01:40 PM	#29
JN01 Senior Member Join Date: May 16, 2005 Location: E Tennessee Posts: 828	Wow, that's the most exciting new firearms design since the USFA Zip .22.

January 19, 2014, 03:50 PM	#32
Super Sneaky Steve Senior Member Join Date: August 9, 2011 Posts: 1,250	It's like someone picked up a Bond Arms derringer and said, this is too affordable, simple and reliable. What we need is something just like it but expensive, complicated and ugly. Oh and lets add "hus" to Bond Arms so we don't get sued.

January 20, 2014, 11:27 AM	#35
Boatme98 Senior Member Join Date: April 5, 2008 Location: Mid Tennessee Posts: 357	It's really a cigar lighter/mini welder. You can see the needle flame in the first photo. __________________ It's good to be the king.

January 21, 2014, 11:15 AM	#36
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	Here's a video of the gun: http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/chan...hot-show-2014/ I hate to put down an innovation but what's the advantage over an LCP, except that folks wouldn't know it's a gun? __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens

January 21, 2014, 01:41 PM	#38
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	That's true. I said before it looks like a part from Home Depot. Strange. __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens

January 21, 2014, 02:08 PM	#39
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,988	Rube Goldberg design! __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com

January 21, 2014, 03:24 PM	#40
wayneinFL Senior Member Join Date: December 18, 2004 Posts: 1,944	Looks like another solution in search of a problem. Like the DoubleTap titanium derringer.

January 21, 2014, 04:37 PM	#41
gav1230 Senior Member Join Date: February 17, 2013 Posts: 148	Doesn't look like it'd be very fast to get into action. __________________ "When a free man dies, he loses the pleasure of life. A slave loses his pain. Death is the only freedom a slave knows. That's why he's not afraid of it. That's why we'll win." - Stanley Kubrick's "Sparticus", 1960.

January 21, 2014, 06:34 PM	#42
dajowi Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2005 Posts: 1,196	I see a company going out of business real soon.

January 22, 2014, 12:52 AM	#43
DaleA Senior Member Join Date: September 12, 2002 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 5,317	Sure I'll pile on now that opinion is against the thing... Reloading is not as bad as I thought it would be...it's worse! I could easily see myself dropping what looks to be a third of the gun into the dirt during a reload and I could be wrong here, but it kind of looks like that might get crud into some of the insides that wouldn't take kindly to it. Hollywood might like it.

January 22, 2014, 01:00 AM	#44
B.N.Real Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2008 Posts: 4,092	Smallest, most accurate multishot 380? There's a lawsuit in that ad. Any derringer, quality made is better then this joke.

January 23, 2014, 02:20 AM	#45
ffs1942 Member Join Date: December 14, 2010 Posts: 79	Ridiculous Lacks the intimidation of a normal .380 and certainly the ergonomics. Better have a back-up, like a good folding knife. Actually, could this have not been combined with maybe a push dagger and skip the silly laser?