try these, the next time you wanna' shoot trap...

Slugo · June 13, 2013, 02:14 PM

they work and I mean really work!!

zippy13 · June 13, 2013, 05:26 PM

Slugo, my friend, are they significantly different from the old school Double-A 3-dram trap load? I wonder what makes them super -- stiffer wads, harder shot, or... ?

Bake · June 13, 2013, 05:31 PM

New box and the marketing dept....

BigD_in_FL · June 13, 2013, 08:53 PM

Yep, and if you need 1-1/8 oz to break a trap target, you need more practice...........

International trap targets are 50% harder and 50% faster, yet they use 24 grams, a little less than 7/8 oz.............

Dreaming100Straight · June 13, 2013, 09:15 PM

The only thing super about them is there is a $2 rebate and last I looked there were some in stock at my supplier.

As for breaking targets, I notices that the targets they are throwing at my local field need a cannon to break. At least for 16 yard trap.

BigD_in_FL · June 14, 2013, 06:35 AM

If they are throwing those biodegradeable ones, you do -they are a little harder and many get dusted without breaking - those "good for the environment" targets destroy all vegetation unless you go back and treat the entire area with lime - worst invention ever

BigJimP · June 14, 2013, 10:54 AM

1 oz of 8's ....at around 1200 - 1225 fps ....is plenty for Trap targets from the 16 - 20 yd line...with a Modified choke.

I don't shoot a lot of Trap ...but even with bio-degradeable targets(which are crummy, I agree !! )...as long as my scores stay between 92-96 out of 100, on 16 yd singles.... I'm happy with my load of 1oz 8's....( its not the shell, that cost me 4 - 8 targets ....its me !! )...

From the 16 - 20 yd line....I stay with the same shell and a Mod choke.
For 21-25 I stay with same shell ...and go to an Imp Mod choke.
At 26 and 27 yds ( and I have not earned my right to shoot from there by registered targets )...I go to a Full choke and still 1 oz ..but I do load 7.5's instead of 8's...( but when I go back beyond the 22 yd line or so, I let the game get into my head...and my scores suffer - but its not the shells...its lack of confidence - and practice ! )....

in my opinon.....

BigD_in_FL · June 14, 2013, 01:38 PM

Jim - if your 1oz load of 8s can break 96/100, those four you missed weren't because you needed that extra 1/8 oz......

BigJimP · June 14, 2013, 01:57 PM

precisely ....( and some dumb luck maybe ...) ...who knows...

I used to shoot a lot of 1 1/8 oz loads...( before I knew better ! ).
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The other side of this ....is the role that recoil plays in your scores. As the days go on ...especially in a 2, 3, or 4 day tournament...and you're shooting 200 targets or more a day....( and I'm 6'5" and 290 lbs...) its not that I can't stand up against the recoil ...but recoil is cumulative ....and I think it really shows up on the 3rd and 4th day ...as you get tired / and it costs you a few targets.

I think its even a bigger factor in sporting clays tournaments...where you need to think your way thru the course ...and read the targets. Heat, humidity, how tired you are...really take a toll...after a couple of days ....
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and you shoot a 96 in the men's division in Trap ...you'll get beat by the junior shooter under 12 ...and the senior ladies over 60..../ and 60% or more of the guys in the men's division --- 96 out of 100 in Trap ....means all you're doing is making a donation to the cash prize pool..../ 92 will get you laughed off the fields...

g.willikers · June 14, 2013, 04:35 PM

They hurt and I mean really hurt.
Although, that's about what I used to use shooting trap, when I was young and tough.
But now - er, no thanks.

BigJimP · June 14, 2013, 04:45 PM

I used to be tough too....now, I'm just "chewy".....

June 13, 2013, 02:14 PM	#1
Slugo Junior member Join Date: September 15, 2001 Location: Central PA Posts: 1,007	try these, the next time you wanna' shoot trap... they work and I mean really work!!

June 14, 2013, 04:35 PM	#10
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	They hurt and I mean really hurt. Although, that's about what I used to use shooting trap, when I was young and tough. But now - er, no thanks. __________________ Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez: “Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.”

June 13, 2013, 05:26 PM	#2
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,442	Slugo, my friend, are they significantly different from the old school Double-A 3-dram trap load? I wonder what makes them super -- stiffer wads, harder shot, or... ?

June 13, 2013, 05:31 PM	#3
Bake Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 2012 Location: San Joaquin Valley, Calif. Posts: 482	New box and the marketing dept....

June 13, 2013, 08:53 PM	#4
BigD_in_FL Junior member Join Date: December 20, 2012 Location: The "Gunshine State" Posts: 1,981	Yep, and if you need 1-1/8 oz to break a trap target, you need more practice........... International trap targets are 50% harder and 50% faster, yet they use 24 grams, a little less than 7/8 oz.............

June 13, 2013, 09:15 PM	#5
Dreaming100Straight Senior Member Join Date: February 3, 2013 Posts: 1,235	The only thing super about them is there is a $2 rebate and last I looked there were some in stock at my supplier. As for breaking targets, I notices that the targets they are throwing at my local field need a cannon to break. At least for 16 yard trap.

June 14, 2013, 06:35 AM	#6
BigD_in_FL Junior member Join Date: December 20, 2012 Location: The "Gunshine State" Posts: 1,981	If they are throwing those biodegradeable ones, you do -they are a little harder and many get dusted without breaking - those "good for the environment" targets destroy all vegetation unless you go back and treat the entire area with lime - worst invention ever

June 14, 2013, 10:54 AM	#7
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	1 oz of 8's ....at around 1200 - 1225 fps ....is plenty for Trap targets from the 16 - 20 yd line...with a Modified choke. I don't shoot a lot of Trap ...but even with bio-degradeable targets(which are crummy, I agree !! )...as long as my scores stay between 92-96 out of 100, on 16 yd singles.... I'm happy with my load of 1oz 8's....( its not the shell, that cost me 4 - 8 targets ....its me !! )... From the 16 - 20 yd line....I stay with the same shell and a Mod choke. For 21-25 I stay with same shell ...and go to an Imp Mod choke. At 26 and 27 yds ( and I have not earned my right to shoot from there by registered targets )...I go to a Full choke and still 1 oz ..but I do load 7.5's instead of 8's...( but when I go back beyond the 22 yd line or so, I let the game get into my head...and my scores suffer - but its not the shells...its lack of confidence - and practice ! ).... in my opinon.....

June 14, 2013, 01:38 PM	#8
BigD_in_FL Junior member Join Date: December 20, 2012 Location: The "Gunshine State" Posts: 1,981	Jim - if your 1oz load of 8s can break 96/100, those four you missed weren't because you needed that extra 1/8 oz......

June 14, 2013, 01:57 PM	#9
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	precisely ....( and some dumb luck maybe ...) ...who knows... I used to shoot a lot of 1 1/8 oz loads...( before I knew better ! ). -------------- The other side of this ....is the role that recoil plays in your scores. As the days go on ...especially in a 2, 3, or 4 day tournament...and you're shooting 200 targets or more a day....( and I'm 6'5" and 290 lbs...) its not that I can't stand up against the recoil ...but recoil is cumulative ....and I think it really shows up on the 3rd and 4th day ...as you get tired / and it costs you a few targets. I think its even a bigger factor in sporting clays tournaments...where you need to think your way thru the course ...and read the targets. Heat, humidity, how tired you are...really take a toll...after a couple of days .... ------------ and you shoot a 96 in the men's division in Trap ...you'll get beat by the junior shooter under 12 ...and the senior ladies over 60..../ and 60% or more of the guys in the men's division --- 96 out of 100 in Trap ....means all you're doing is making a donation to the cash prize pool..../ 92 will get you laughed off the fields...

June 14, 2013, 04:45 PM	#11
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	I used to be tough too....now, I'm just "chewy".....