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Old March 6, 2024, 03:47 PM   #1
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anyone try Arm or ally .224 55g FMJ?

So I bought 1000 .224 55g FMJ from arm or ally. They stated the bullets are made by a leading US manufacturer. I really like the profile and I was able to get 1000 with shipping and tax to my door for $100.82.

Only catch I have run into so far is no idea on BC or seating depth. I compared them to my Hornady .224 55g fmj and they are definitely not the same bullet. I would presume you would seat them to the middle of the cannelure and I should be good. I do have a bullet seating measuring tool I will need to dig out and check to see but it will be a pain taking 10 measurements on 5 different rifles.

Anyone else using these? Anyone know who is making this bullet for them?
Here are the bullets for anyone interested. https://www.armorally.com/shop/arm-o...lure-bulk-oem/

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Old March 6, 2024, 05:04 PM   #2
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I would start with max coal and make sure there is still healthy bullet jump. Then I fire a charge ladder. Pick the node and start reducing coal for best group.

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Old March 6, 2024, 06:31 PM   #3
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Quick update. Did a bit of measuring, not a ton but enough to tell me what I needed to know.

First off I measured the cannelure placement in relation to COL using a case that was 1.750 long. Seated some bullets at the bottom and top of the cannelure and measured to get a rough idea of min and max col in relation to the cannelure.

the bottom of the cannelure measured at a col of 2.265
the top of the cannelure measure at a col of 2.213

so to be about in the middle of the cannelure the seating depth would be right about 2.240


I then did a bit of measuring on a couple barrels with the bullets up against the rifling.

Barrel #1 was a faxon match grade 223 wylde chamber which measured in a 2.275
Barrel #2 was a PSA heavy barrel in 5.56/223 and it measured in at 2.322
barrel #3 was a Ballistic advantage 5.56/223 and it measured in at 2.341

seems worst case, in the tighter 223 wylde chamber, I would still have 0.035 of jump, at the 2.240 seating depth, more than enough, and that would still give me plenty of room in the magazines.

Now I just need to put together some test loads to do a workup to make sure everything it still happy.
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Old March 7, 2024, 10:34 AM   #4
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I've been using them for plinking bullets. I seat to the top of the cannelure - 2.212". I've not driven them hard - 2900fps max using Xterminator, LT-30, 2015, AR plus - whatever was cheapest. They work fine for whacking an 8" steel plate at 100yds - I've no intention of shooting groups with them. I'd use Bob's bullets if I wanted bulk precision.
If I watch the sales and the shipping, I can get AOA or Armscore to my door for 8.5cents - 1k.
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Old March 7, 2024, 11:53 AM   #5
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OP, please let us know how the bullet shoots. I may want to buy some myself. Price is right.

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Old March 7, 2024, 12:09 PM   #6
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OP, please let us know how the bullet shoots. I may want to buy some myself. Price is right.

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Hoping to do testing in about 2 weeks, weather permitting
Will report back.
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Old March 9, 2024, 01:40 PM   #7
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Btw, this the link I use to find the cheapest 223 bullets - but you do have to investigate shipping. I just ordered 1k of Armscore 55gr fmjbt @8.8 cents to my door (selected cheapest shipping,etc.)

https://ammoseek.com/reloading/bullets/.224-diameter/
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