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June 19, 2020, 06:35 PM | #1 |
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gen 5 g19 not locking open
So I'm in the initial stages of trying to diagnose the issue, I suspect it under powered ammo. Its a new G19 Gen 5. It has maybe 250-350rnds through it. The last 2 times I was out I had multiple issue with the slide failing to lock back on empty. I tried 2 different mags same issue, both were brand new mags and the springs feel plenty stiff. The gun would lock open without issue if i racked the slide on an empty mag. I prefer to shoot 115g federal. I don't remember having any issued with federal 115 or 147g the first time or 2 I took it out. The last 2 times I shot freedom munition reman 115g, failure to lock open was the rule, not the exception. I made sure i had a good grip and did not limp wrist. I also made sure i had a good grip and had fingers away from the slide stop lever.
I know I read about the 4th gen being designed for hot 124g and having issues with standard 115g due to the recoil spring but I understood this was adressed. is this an issue with the gen 5 guns? were there any differences going to gen 5 mags other than the orange follower and lipped base plate? any reports of issues with the new mags? Next range outing I plan to shoot several different brands and chrono them all to see if i can pin it on a ammo issue, or if it is a gun issue. I also plan to test 6 different mags.
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June 19, 2020, 07:34 PM | #2 |
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Glocks are known for liking warmer ammo.
The first Glock I got back in the 80's caused me to up the loads I was using for my other 9mm's at the time (High Power, P38, HK P7). Once I did that, they have been fine, and the other guns are fine as well. I use 124 grain bullets loaded towards the upper end of the load data. I have a couple of different Gen 5's, as well as Gen 2-4's, and they all work fine with the same ammo. |
June 20, 2020, 06:09 AM | #3 |
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I would reach out to Glock. I have a Gen 4 Glock 19 and have shot a ton of freedom munitions reman ammo without any issues. Although, I have gone through 3 different recoil springs and 2 different extractors since purchasing it in early 2012. Mine was one of the original versions that was plagued with issues.
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June 22, 2020, 06:41 PM | #4 | |
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June 22, 2020, 09:00 PM | #5 |
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Are you riding the slide release with you thumb?
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June 22, 2020, 10:26 PM | #6 |
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nope, made sure of that once i started having issues
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June 26, 2020, 07:03 PM | #7 |
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Update, went to the range. Tested 5 different glock magazines, tested 2 different ammunition brands both of which work fine in 2 other guns. Out of 40 tests, it only locked open 3 times. No limp wristing, no finger on the slide stop. Contacted Glock, hopefully they can help me out.
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July 2, 2020, 05:31 PM | #8 |
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Last update. I am feeling like an idiot. I did have my thumb on the slide stop. I never had an issue before but I have been modifying my grip. I though I made sure I had my thumb off when testing the last 3 times, but apparently I did not. I shot today and checked my grip and made sure i was off of it and it locked open every time. All i can chalk it up to is my grip being wrong the last 3 times or so I went shooting. I could have sworn i was no where near it and I remember checking too. Moral of the story is make sure you check every thing and isolate each test.
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July 2, 2020, 06:02 PM | #9 |
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Man... sucks for you, *I* have never felt like an idiot (LOL)
Glad you got it figured out
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July 2, 2020, 06:05 PM | #10 |
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Yeah in the future a good way to test this is to shoot it one handed. If it doesn't do it one handed, chances are it's you. That said, kudos for owning the mistake.
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July 2, 2020, 09:53 PM | #11 |
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gotta own em and learn from them. hopefully somone else can learn from my mistakes
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July 3, 2020, 07:14 AM | #12 |
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Same thing happened to me yesterday with a Sig P365. Rented one to test it out. Slide was not locking open and I thought it was an issue with the mags or something. Then looked at my grip and my thumb was resting right on the slide release.
If I end up buying one, I will def have to adjust my grip when shooting it. |
July 3, 2020, 09:14 AM | #13 |
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