May 26, 2016, 08:03 PM | #1 |
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So many wrong guns!
No C&B when cartridge peacemakers were years off, All the Indians seem to have Winchester lever rifles too ? Even the C&B's are conversions too! Really disappointing uigley Down Under however was really correct! Great to watch reality in action. Conversions easher for the prop man... |
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Well, all those TC Hawken's and that Pedersoli Bounty Hunter weren't exactly correct but at least they weren't 92 Winchesters.
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May 26, 2016, 09:50 PM | #3 |
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Don't forget John Wayne's model '94 Winchester in True Grit which takes place in the early 1870s.
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Don't forget the 12 shooter that Keving Costner used in the movie "Open Range", with Robert Duval. I had to rewind and count the shots it took to bring down the bad hombre.
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I've mentioned this before, but I read an article a couple of years ago where Costner was upset that the movie editors made him look like a fool with a 12 shot Colt. He said in the actual take, he pulled and fired a 2nd revolver instead of just one. BUT, it's Hollywood and they think everyone is a firearms idiot. It does look cool him cranking out 12, but it's amazingly silly.
He didn't mentioned anything about the special effects of shotguns that blow people through the air though. That must be a 20mm shotgun |
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And, of course, the James Stewart movie, Shenandoah, where all the Civil War soldiers were using trapdoor Springfields.
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Let us not forget, either, Raiders of the Lost Ark, allegedly taking place in 1935, where the Germans are armed with P.38s and, I believe, an MP 40 or two.
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The soldier fighting alongside Stewarts' son in Shenandoah was used a muzzle loader. The son had a trapdoor.
Methinks the old b/w film that was heavily praised by Woody Wilson, Birth of a Nation, had trapdoors in the charge scene.
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May 27, 2016, 08:34 AM | #10 |
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The Good the Bad and the Ugly... Galand & Somerville revolver at the gun shop when Tuko is looking for a gun. They weren't made until several years after the civil war. And Angel Eye's remi is percussion but he has a belt full of cartridges too.
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And the John Wayne classic "The Comancheros" which featured '92 Winchesters and '73 Colts, in pre? Civil War Texas.
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May 27, 2016, 10:13 AM | #12 |
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John Wayne carried a 92 in most if not all of his westerns.
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The Wild Bunch was pretty good.
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I'm not singling anybody out but I find it kind of ironic that so many people bash Hollyweird for using guns that aren't correct and then go out with their 5.5 inch Remington's, brass .44's, ROA's etc.
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May 27, 2016, 01:22 PM | #15 |
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I shoot a 4.5 Rremmie and a brasser it was my first and the 4.5 is one they should a made.
Yea I know it's funny but I expect more from Hollywood than they give... I do so enjoy my 51 .36 Colt repro and full size Remigoon tho and I wish Rugers would hav er been back in the old west! Guess I'll have to live with the movies. |
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Guys it's called Fiction. I don't put too much stock in all the inaccuracies in the movies. I just enjoy the movie for what it is. It happens with more than just guns. I notice alot of the wrong year cars in a particular setting.
Hawg, why yes I do enjoy my 5.5" 6 shot 1862 "Police". |
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"There were two identical guns made for Leonardo DiCaprio to use in his portrayal of Hugh Glass in the Revenant.
Property master Dean Ellerson contacted Pennsylvania gun maker Ron Luckenbill of Recreating History. Together, they discussed what sort of gun Glass may have carried, and what could have made it so special that it was instantly recognizable and worth crawling 200 miles to reclaim. Glass was supposedly born in Pennsylvania, and he may have been an apprentice to a local gun maker. They therefore decided on a unique Bucks County Schuler-styled rifle with both raised and incised carving, a side-opening brass patch box and brass furniture. To make the Hugh Glass rifle, Ron used a 42-inch, 'B' weight, 50-caliber, swamped barrel by Colerain, a Chambers Golden Age flintlock paired with a Bucks County style, reverse-curl single trigger, as well as a brass Schuler-style furniture cast by Reeves Goehring. The little brush attached to Glass's brass-linked neck chain is a 'pan brush' used to clean the powder pan on the flintlock rifle. He also carried a shooting pouch and powder horn. In his belt, on his left side, is his flintlock pistol, along with a butcher knife and tomahawk." quotes: The Revenant...His Legend Lives On - By Lamar Underwood, American Frontiersman magazine.
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Steve McQueen's still famous rifle didn't match the cartridges on his gun belt.
But who cares, Wanted Dead or Alive was such a good show. It's tv.
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If you're looking for accuracies with western movie guns, watch the dollars trilogy The man with no names 1873 single action armies that he used in the early 1860s, in the good the bad and the ugly they started using cartridge converted '51s and '58s. Not a big deal to me,I just enjoy the film. I just don't want to get shot even if I have a thick steel plate on me . I did notice though in For a Few Dollars More at the end Clint has period correct Henry lever action. Wasn't there a Sam elliot move where someone had a lemat?
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Sheesh!
They're just movies. Who cares if there are historical inaccuracies? Well, obviously some do. When I spot such inaccuracies I just smile. Whether or not it is a good movie seldom depends on how historically accurate the weapons are. |
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I feel the same way Driftwood, it's just fun to pick on those mistakes
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Come on guys we'really just paying attention cause we love the revolvers and want to see them shoot.
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They're not just movies Drifty, they're life.
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Richard Widmark as Jim Bowie carrying a Nock Volley gun in The Alamo(1960).
The British soldiers in Gunga Din (1939) are carrying Krags, their opponents have Trapdoor Springfields. |
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