Speer 38 Spl shot capsules

Civil War Life · February 3, 2011, 10:31 PM

I bought some Speer shot capsules for 38 special. They say the load data is in the #14 manual. My manual is older so it doesn't have the data. I hate to buy a new book just for that one load. Was wondering if anyone has loaded these, and what powder and charge you use for them. Also would these be crimped? I wouldn't think so, but just don't know. Thanks.

rg1 · February 3, 2011, 10:48 PM

.38 Special/.357 Magnum Speer Shotshell capsules data:
630--9.0 grains---1001fps 6" barrel
Unique--5.5-------1111
231-----5.0-------996
Bullseye--4.5-------1021
700X-----4.5-------1060
HP38------4.5------1054
overall length 1.500" for .38 and .357
#9 shot used
Speer says give the case mouth a moderate roll crimp into the side of the capsule sleeve being careful not to break the plastic.

Civil War Life · February 3, 2011, 11:06 PM

Thanks so much. I will eventually buy a new book, but I did want to get started on these. Interesting about the roll crimp. I don't know if my Lee dies will do a roll crimp. Have to check them.
Regards..

huntinaz · February 3, 2011, 11:11 PM

I used a charge of Bullseye (I think what was recommended) with #8 shot. I've been very impressed with its performance on snakes.

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Speer says give the case mouth a moderate roll crimp into the side of the capsule sleeve being careful not to break the plastic.

Yes, this is what you want. If you don't crimp them the capsules wiggle out of the others. Trust me, I know

**Mal H** · February 3, 2011, 11:45 PM

Actually the shotshell load data has been in the Speer manuals for a long time. Look for it in your manual in the section following the last caliber loading section. They might say it is in #14 since that is the current manual.

.45 Vet · February 4, 2011, 05:32 PM

It's been a few years; but the last few boxes I bought, Speer had the recommended data right on the side of the box.

Civil War Life · February 4, 2011, 07:53 PM

The load data is not on the box anymore

I guess they want you to buy the book. I will check my book again to see if I missed it. It definitely isn't in the section on 38 special.

Thanks to all who responded. All very helpful.

**Mal H** · February 4, 2011, 09:47 PM

Did you look for it where I pointed you to?

Civil War Life · February 4, 2011, 10:09 PM

Yes, I found it. My manual is #12, so it isn't all that out of date. At least for what I am loading. Thanks for the directions, better than a GPS.

armsmaster270 · February 5, 2011, 02:01 AM

I prefer to use #11 or #12 shot for a denser pattern

Civil War Life · February 5, 2011, 12:50 PM

I loaded 25 with #12 shot, and 25 with #7 shot. Thought I'd try them out and see how each works.

Jim243 · February 5, 2011, 01:27 PM

I have the #13 manual and it is the same info as rg1's.

Jim

February 4, 2011, 05:32 PM	#6
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February 3, 2011, 10:31 PM	#1
Civil War Life Senior Member Join Date: January 15, 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 166	Speer 38 Spl shot capsules I bought some Speer shot capsules for 38 special. They say the load data is in the #14 manual. My manual is older so it doesn't have the data. I hate to buy a new book just for that one load. Was wondering if anyone has loaded these, and what powder and charge you use for them. Also would these be crimped? I wouldn't think so, but just don't know. Thanks.

February 3, 2011, 10:48 PM	#2
rg1 Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2001 Posts: 1,081	.38 Special/.357 Magnum Speer Shotshell capsules data: 630--9.0 grains---1001fps 6" barrel Unique--5.5-------1111 231-----5.0-------996 Bullseye--4.5-------1021 700X-----4.5-------1060 HP38------4.5------1054 overall length 1.500" for .38 and .357 #9 shot used Speer says give the case mouth a moderate roll crimp into the side of the capsule sleeve being careful not to break the plastic.

February 3, 2011, 11:06 PM	#3
Civil War Life Senior Member Join Date: January 15, 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 166	Thanks so much. I will eventually buy a new book, but I did want to get started on these. Interesting about the roll crimp. I don't know if my Lee dies will do a roll crimp. Have to check them. Regards..

February 3, 2011, 11:45 PM	#5
Mal H Staff Join Date: March 20, 1999 Location: Somewhere in the woods of Northern Virginia Posts: 16,047	Actually the shotshell load data has been in the Speer manuals for a long time. Look for it in your manual in the section following the last caliber loading section. They might say it is in #14 since that is the current manual.

February 4, 2011, 07:53 PM	#7
Civil War Life Senior Member Join Date: January 15, 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 166	The load data is not on the box anymore I guess they want you to buy the book. I will check my book again to see if I missed it. It definitely isn't in the section on 38 special. Thanks to all who responded. All very helpful.

February 4, 2011, 09:47 PM	#8
Mal H Staff Join Date: March 20, 1999 Location: Somewhere in the woods of Northern Virginia Posts: 16,047	Did you look for it where I pointed you to?

February 4, 2011, 10:09 PM	#9
Civil War Life Senior Member Join Date: January 15, 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 166	Yes, I found it. My manual is #12, so it isn't all that out of date. At least for what I am loading. Thanks for the directions, better than a GPS.

February 5, 2011, 12:50 PM	#11
Civil War Life Senior Member Join Date: January 15, 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 166	I loaded 25 with #12 shot, and 25 with #7 shot. Thought I'd try them out and see how each works.

February 5, 2011, 01:27 PM	#12
Jim243 Senior Member Join Date: January 5, 2009 Location: Just off Route 66 Posts: 5,067	I have the #13 manual and it is the same info as rg1's. Jim __________________ Si vis pacem, para bellum