Older reloading data needed - 452AA powder

J0nsy · March 10, 2024, 07:16 PM

Sorry, I'm in a spot. If anyone has any older reloading manuals and can look this up, I'd really appreciate it. My wife's uncle gifted us 10 lbs of 452AA and I'd like to reload it for her 380 ez pistol. (the powder is old, but in good shape) I've found forum data for this powder on 45 auto but not 380. If anyone has any old reloading books and can help, I'd appreciate it greatly. 100 gr fmj. Thank you!

Jim Watson · March 10, 2024, 10:30 PM

Look also for Trap 100, said to be same powder with Hodgdon label.

rc · March 11, 2024, 08:51 AM

I'm sure I have some of the 90s reloading pamphlets with that powder. Maybe I'll have to a chance to look that up later tonight. If you have a chronograph you can always work up a load to 850 or 900fps.

Nathan · March 11, 2024, 08:53 AM

I would call Hodgdon with the bottle in front of you.

Paul B. · March 11, 2024, 02:32 PM

My copy of the Speer #11 shows one load with the 95 gr. bullet.

Start: 3.3 gr./913 FPS Max: 3.7 gr./1018 FPS

I have quite a few older manuals and the Speer data is all I could find. Frankly, I think that max load is a bit on the hot side and I would work up just warm enough for reliable functioning. Not much leeway between the start and max loads.
Paul B.

rc · March 11, 2024, 09:37 PM

9.4 or 9.5 grains would be about right if Paul's data reflects your actual results. Not a lot of space in the case so OAL is probably also something to consider.

Holy smokes, I meant to say 3.4 to 3.5 grains!

Jim Watson · March 11, 2024, 11:52 PM

And THAT, people, is why I am reluctant to share”recipes” on the www.

J0nsy · March 15, 2024, 05:55 PM

Thanks everyone for the input. I'll start with the 3.3 and chrono...and work my way up. Appreciate it!

(btw, I did email Hogdgon about this prior to my post in this forum, they gave me links to reloading data sites that didn't have this powder listed - no help)

March 11, 2024, 02:32 PM	#5
Paul B. Senior Member Join Date: March 28, 1999 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 3,802	My copy of the Speer #11 shows one load with the 95 gr. bullet. Start: 3.3 gr./913 FPS Max: 3.7 gr./1018 FPS I have quite a few older manuals and the Speer data is all I could find. Frankly, I think that max load is a bit on the hot side and I would work up just warm enough for reliable functioning. Not much leeway between the start and max loads. Paul B. __________________ COMPROMISE IS NOT AN OPTION!

March 11, 2024, 09:37 PM	#6
rc Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2001 Location: CA Posts: 1,769	9.4 or 9.5 grains would be about right if Paul's data reflects your actual results. Not a lot of space in the case so OAL is probably also something to consider. Holy smokes, I meant to say 3.4 to 3.5 grains! Last edited by rc; March 15, 2024 at 09:30 PM.

March 15, 2024, 05:55 PM	#8
J0nsy Junior Member Join Date: March 8, 2024 Posts: 2	Thanks everyone for the input. I'll start with the 3.3 and chrono...and work my way up. Appreciate it! (btw, I did email Hogdgon about this prior to my post in this forum, they gave me links to reloading data sites that didn't have this powder listed - no help) Last edited by J0nsy; March 15, 2024 at 06:33 PM.

March 10, 2024, 07:16 PM	#1
J0nsy Junior Member Join Date: March 8, 2024 Posts: 2	Older reloading data needed - 452AA powder Sorry, I'm in a spot. If anyone has any older reloading manuals and can look this up, I'd really appreciate it. My wife's uncle gifted us 10 lbs of 452AA and I'd like to reload it for her 380 ez pistol. (the powder is old, but in good shape) I've found forum data for this powder on 45 auto but not 380. If anyone has any old reloading books and can help, I'd appreciate it greatly. 100 gr fmj. Thank you!

March 10, 2024, 10:30 PM	#2
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,545	Look also for Trap 100, said to be same powder with Hodgdon label.

March 11, 2024, 08:51 AM	#3
rc Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2001 Location: CA Posts: 1,769	I'm sure I have some of the 90s reloading pamphlets with that powder. Maybe I'll have to a chance to look that up later tonight. If you have a chronograph you can always work up a load to 850 or 900fps.

March 11, 2024, 08:53 AM	#4
Nathan Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2001 Posts: 6,334	I would call Hodgdon with the bottle in front of you.

March 11, 2024, 11:52 PM	#7
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,545	And THAT, people, is why I am reluctant to share”recipes” on the www.