If you could make your perfect handgun what would it be? - Page 2

KyJim · May 9, 2021, 02:26 PM

When I first read the thread title, I thought we were talking theoretical handguns, not real ones. My theoretical handgun would have a powerful, light-weight battery that could generate a pulse strong enough to launch a 55-grain .223/5.56 bullet out of a four-inch barrel at 3,200 fps. Since a cartridge and powder would be unnecessary, I think you could get 10+ rounds into a magazine and the gun would still be concealable. Essentially, it would be a mini-railgun and would not require a suppressor.

Sarge · May 9, 2021, 08:47 PM

I'd hate to put anybody out, so I could settle for a 4 1/2" New Service 44 Special with stags on it.

https://www.gunauction.com/buy/8911918

pete2 · May 9, 2021, 08:56 PM

Mine would be a 686 built by S&W in 1955, since this is make believe! The 686 would be a great gun built by craftsmen instead of the assemblers of today.

Onward Allusion · May 9, 2021, 09:17 PM

10 shot revolver based off of the S&W N-Frame or Taurus Large Frame chambered in 327 Federal Magnum with a full lugged 4" barrel, preferably in matte stainless.

Onward Allusion · May 9, 2021, 09:30 PM

Quote:

mrt949
Revolver 8 round 3" 9mm ,357 single cylinder .

Can kind of be done with the S&W 627. Not quite 3" but 2 5/8" barrel. Cylinder can be cut to accept 9mm ammo. The catch is that 38/357 cases can't be reloaded when fired in this customized cylinder. Can be done for less than $500 by TK Custom. Check it out...

https://tkcustom.com/services/machining-sw

I looked into this but decided against it because I reload and it would not be worthwhile for me.

Moonglum · May 10, 2021, 08:06 AM

I'm content with my Glock 19.

GE-Minigun · May 10, 2021, 08:46 AM

1911 in either 40 or 45, under 15oz....12 to 13oz would be perfect. Man can dream, correct?

**Mike Irwin** · May 10, 2021, 10:55 AM

Smith & Wesson already made it.

4" Model 19.

ballardw · May 10, 2021, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nodak1858

Plastic double stack wonder gun in 7.62x25.

I have 7.62x25 1911 style barrel I haven't quite gotten brave enough to try in my TCM 22/9mm with double stack magazines. Need some bullets a bit shorter than the 85grain to load to the magazine length but will hopefully work out.

Nodak1858 · May 10, 2021, 09:21 PM

Nice, for some reason i have a thing for the 7.62x25 round. Probably explains all my Tokarevs

geologist · May 11, 2021, 12:53 AM

I'd like a Paris Theodore ASP. They are very rare in Canada.

Cosmodragoon · May 11, 2021, 03:32 AM

I'd like a good, compact, decocker-only, hammer-fired DA/SA carry gun that is easy to carry and fun to shoot.

No, the XDE doesn't do it for me. It's 2021. The P365 is a thing. Do something like that, but with the above features. Heck, a polymer-framed version of the P239 would be acceptable. Just throw us a bone.

tomrkba · May 11, 2021, 07:24 AM

A functional 1911?

tomrkba · May 11, 2021, 07:26 AM

1) I would like a 10 round capacity 1 1/2 stack 1911 with as short of grip as possible and 4 1/4” barrel.

2) Take a Glock 17. Change the outside to look exactly like a 1911. Modify it for a single action trigger and thumb safety.

3) Build a 1911 around the Glock 19 and Glock 30 magazines.

D-Ric902 · May 12, 2021, 07:39 PM

I think a S&W 329 PD (the scandium 44 mag)
Would be awesome converted to a 45 Colt

(You listening Mr Bowen?)

stinkeypete · May 13, 2021, 09:40 AM

D-Rick, Mr. Bowen is now so busy he’s only doing jobs he is interested in.

I doubt that a caliber conversion on aluminum parts would be accepted. Anyone with the reamers can open up those .44 holes to .45.

A Bowen is a sculpted piece of steel, with attention to perfected lines, reduced weight, nod to history, beautiful metal finish, maybe even exotic grips. I have a Bowen .44 Magnum, and that’s not something they really take on anymore. Too mundane.

The 329 is a very attractive aluminum field revolver, but I submit you just load yours with .44 Special and think of it as a .44-40 and you’re done for free. And you can worry less about cracking the frame than those pounding their hands shooting magnum loads out of that lightweight hammer.

moe.ron · June 5, 2021, 08:07 PM

P229 just a little lighter.

Cosmodragoon · June 6, 2021, 04:51 AM

I still want hammer-fired, DA/SA, decocker-only alternatives with good stock triggers.

I get that things are still a little crazy right now. There are still plenty of old timers who'd want this. There are still young people who learned on a metal Sig, decocker-model CZ, etc. There is a real and hopefully growing cross-section of people who care about trigger feedback on reholstering with people who feel that extraneous manual safety levers could be counterproductive in real-life defensive encounters.

I recently got excited when I found out that the P40L in 10mm was being imported again. Then I found out that only the manual safety version was being imported. It's a bit like seeing paddle-releases replaced with an "M2" that trades distinction for "more of the same".

I miss a more diverse market as much as I miss a market that served my interests. I haven't bought a new model in the semi-auto category in a long time.

May 9, 2021, 08:47 PM	#27
Sarge Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2002 Location: MO Posts: 5,331	I'd hate to put anybody out, so I could settle for a 4 1/2" New Service 44 Special with stags on it. https://www.gunauction.com/buy/8911918 __________________ The only thing muzzle energy ever killed was time that could have been spent shooting meat and learning something about how bullets work.

May 9, 2021, 09:17 PM	#29
Onward Allusion Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2009 Location: Back in a Non-Free State Posts: 3,036	10 shot revolver based off of the S&W N-Frame or Taurus Large Frame chambered in 327 Federal Magnum with a full lugged 4" barrel, preferably in matte stainless. __________________ Simple as ABC . . . Always Be Carrying

May 10, 2021, 08:06 AM	#31
Moonglum Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2015 Posts: 356	I'm content with my Glock 19. __________________ You ain't even my REAL dad

May 10, 2021, 10:55 AM	#33
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 40,651	Smith & Wesson already made it. 4" Model 19. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

May 10, 2021, 09:21 PM	#35
Nodak1858 Senior Member Join Date: September 7, 2009 Location: N. Dakota Posts: 350	Nice, for some reason i have a thing for the 7.62x25 round. Probably explains all my Tokarevs __________________ We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true.

May 9, 2021, 02:26 PM	#26
KyJim Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2005 Location: The Bluegrass Posts: 9,029	When I first read the thread title, I thought we were talking theoretical handguns, not real ones. My theoretical handgun would have a powerful, light-weight battery that could generate a pulse strong enough to launch a 55-grain .223/5.56 bullet out of a four-inch barrel at 3,200 fps. Since a cartridge and powder would be unnecessary, I think you could get 10+ rounds into a magazine and the gun would still be concealable. Essentially, it would be a mini-railgun and would not require a suppressor.

May 9, 2021, 08:56 PM	#28
pete2 Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 2,488	Mine would be a 686 built by S&W in 1955, since this is make believe! The 686 would be a great gun built by craftsmen instead of the assemblers of today.

May 10, 2021, 08:46 AM	#32
GE-Minigun Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 2008 Posts: 197	1911 in either 40 or 45, under 15oz....12 to 13oz would be perfect. Man can dream, correct?

May 11, 2021, 12:53 AM	#36
geologist Senior Member Join Date: March 8, 2005 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 228	I'd like a Paris Theodore ASP. They are very rare in Canada. Last edited by geologist; May 12, 2021 at 07:49 PM.

May 11, 2021, 03:32 AM	#37
Cosmodragoon Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2013 Location: Northeastern US Posts: 1,817	I'd like a good, compact, decocker-only, hammer-fired DA/SA carry gun that is easy to carry and fun to shoot. No, the XDE doesn't do it for me. It's 2021. The P365 is a thing. Do something like that, but with the above features. Heck, a polymer-framed version of the P239 would be acceptable. Just throw us a bone.

May 11, 2021, 07:24 AM	#38
tomrkba Senior Member Join Date: November 29, 2011 Posts: 738	A functional 1911?

May 11, 2021, 07:26 AM	#39
tomrkba Senior Member Join Date: November 29, 2011 Posts: 738	1) I would like a 10 round capacity 1 1/2 stack 1911 with as short of grip as possible and 4 1/4” barrel. 2) Take a Glock 17. Change the outside to look exactly like a 1911. Modify it for a single action trigger and thumb safety. 3) Build a 1911 around the Glock 19 and Glock 30 magazines.

May 12, 2021, 07:39 PM	#40
D-Ric902 Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 2004 Location: Northeastern Indiana Posts: 397	I think a S&W 329 PD (the scandium 44 mag) Would be awesome converted to a 45 Colt (You listening Mr Bowen?) __________________ mercysdad.com

May 13, 2021, 09:40 AM	#41
stinkeypete Senior Member Join Date: July 22, 2010 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Posts: 844	D-Rick, Mr. Bowen is now so busy he’s only doing jobs he is interested in. I doubt that a caliber conversion on aluminum parts would be accepted. Anyone with the reamers can open up those .44 holes to .45. A Bowen is a sculpted piece of steel, with attention to perfected lines, reduced weight, nod to history, beautiful metal finish, maybe even exotic grips. I have a Bowen .44 Magnum, and that’s not something they really take on anymore. Too mundane. The 329 is a very attractive aluminum field revolver, but I submit you just load yours with .44 Special and think of it as a .44-40 and you’re done for free. And you can worry less about cracking the frame than those pounding their hands shooting magnum loads out of that lightweight hammer. __________________ I hunt, shoot bullseye, plink, reload, and tinker with firearms. I have hung out with the Cowboy Action fellas. I have no interest in carrying firearms in urban areas.

June 5, 2021, 08:07 PM	#42
moe.ron Member Join Date: July 4, 2008 Location: Macomb County MI Posts: 51	P229 just a little lighter.

June 6, 2021, 04:51 AM	#43
Cosmodragoon Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2013 Location: Northeastern US Posts: 1,817	I still want hammer-fired, DA/SA, decocker-only alternatives with good stock triggers. I get that things are still a little crazy right now. There are still plenty of old timers who'd want this. There are still young people who learned on a metal Sig, decocker-model CZ, etc. There is a real and hopefully growing cross-section of people who care about trigger feedback on reholstering with people who feel that extraneous manual safety levers could be counterproductive in real-life defensive encounters. I recently got excited when I found out that the P40L in 10mm was being imported again. Then I found out that only the manual safety version was being imported. It's a bit like seeing paddle-releases replaced with an "M2" that trades distinction for "more of the same". I miss a more diverse market as much as I miss a market that served my interests. I haven't bought a new model in the semi-auto category in a long time. Last edited by Cosmodragoon; June 6, 2021 at 05:10 AM. Reason: Accident

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