If you could make your perfect handgun what would it be? - Page 2

KyJim · May 9, 2021, 03:26 PM

When I first read the thread title, I thought we were talking theoretical handguns, not real ones. My theoretical handgun would have a powerful, light-weight battery that could generate a pulse strong enough to launch a 55-grain .223/5.56 bullet out of a four-inch barrel at 3,200 fps. Since a cartridge and powder would be unnecessary, I think you could get 10+ rounds into a magazine and the gun would still be concealable. Essentially, it would be a mini-railgun and would not require a suppressor.

Sarge · May 9, 2021, 09:47 PM

I'd hate to put anybody out, so I could settle for a 4 1/2" New Service 44 Special with stags on it.

https://www.gunauction.com/buy/8911918

pete2 · May 9, 2021, 09:56 PM

Mine would be a 686 built by S&W in 1955, since this is make believe! The 686 would be a great gun built by craftsmen instead of the assemblers of today.

Onward Allusion · May 9, 2021, 10:17 PM

10 shot revolver based off of the S&W N-Frame or Taurus Large Frame chambered in 327 Federal Magnum with a full lugged 4" barrel, preferably in matte stainless.

Onward Allusion · May 9, 2021, 10:30 PM

Quote:

mrt949
Revolver 8 round 3" 9mm ,357 single cylinder .

Can kind of be done with the S&W 627. Not quite 3" but 2 5/8" barrel. Cylinder can be cut to accept 9mm ammo. The catch is that 38/357 cases can't be reloaded when fired in this customized cylinder. Can be done for less than $500 by TK Custom. Check it out...

https://tkcustom.com/services/machining-sw

I looked into this but decided against it because I reload and it would not be worthwhile for me.

Moonglum · May 10, 2021, 09:06 AM

I'm content with my Glock 19.

GE-Minigun · May 10, 2021, 09:46 AM

1911 in either 40 or 45, under 15oz....12 to 13oz would be perfect. Man can dream, correct?

**Mike Irwin** · May 10, 2021, 11:55 AM

Smith & Wesson already made it.

4" Model 19.

ballardw · May 10, 2021, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nodak1858

Plastic double stack wonder gun in 7.62x25.

I have 7.62x25 1911 style barrel I haven't quite gotten brave enough to try in my TCM 22/9mm with double stack magazines. Need some bullets a bit shorter than the 85grain to load to the magazine length but will hopefully work out.

Nodak1858 · May 10, 2021, 10:21 PM

Nice, for some reason i have a thing for the 7.62x25 round. Probably explains all my Tokarevs

geologist · May 11, 2021, 01:53 AM

I'd like a Paris Theodore ASP. They are very rare in Canada.

Cosmodragoon · May 11, 2021, 04:32 AM

I'd like a good, compact, decocker-only, hammer-fired DA/SA carry gun that is easy to carry and fun to shoot.

No, the XDE doesn't do it for me. It's 2021. The P365 is a thing. Do something like that, but with the above features. Heck, a polymer-framed version of the P239 would be acceptable. Just throw us a bone.

tomrkba · May 11, 2021, 08:24 AM

A functional 1911?

tomrkba · May 11, 2021, 08:26 AM

1) I would like a 10 round capacity 1 1/2 stack 1911 with as short of grip as possible and 4 1/4” barrel.

2) Take a Glock 17. Change the outside to look exactly like a 1911. Modify it for a single action trigger and thumb safety.

3) Build a 1911 around the Glock 19 and Glock 30 magazines.

D-Ric902 · May 12, 2021, 08:39 PM

I think a S&W 329 PD (the scandium 44 mag)
Would be awesome converted to a 45 Colt

(You listening Mr Bowen?)

stinkeypete · May 13, 2021, 10:40 AM

D-Rick, Mr. Bowen is now so busy he’s only doing jobs he is interested in.

I doubt that a caliber conversion on aluminum parts would be accepted. Anyone with the reamers can open up those .44 holes to .45.

A Bowen is a sculpted piece of steel, with attention to perfected lines, reduced weight, nod to history, beautiful metal finish, maybe even exotic grips. I have a Bowen .44 Magnum, and that’s not something they really take on anymore. Too mundane.

The 329 is a very attractive aluminum field revolver, but I submit you just load yours with .44 Special and think of it as a .44-40 and you’re done for free. And you can worry less about cracking the frame than those pounding their hands shooting magnum loads out of that lightweight hammer.

moe.ron · June 5, 2021, 09:07 PM

P229 just a little lighter.

Cosmodragoon · June 6, 2021, 05:51 AM

I still want hammer-fired, DA/SA, decocker-only alternatives with good stock triggers.

I get that things are still a little crazy right now. There are still plenty of old timers who'd want this. There are still young people who learned on a metal Sig, decocker-model CZ, etc. There is a real and hopefully growing cross-section of people who care about trigger feedback on reholstering with people who feel that extraneous manual safety levers could be counterproductive in real-life defensive encounters.

I recently got excited when I found out that the P40L in 10mm was being imported again. Then I found out that only the manual safety version was being imported. It's a bit like seeing paddle-releases replaced with an "M2" that trades distinction for "more of the same".

I miss a more diverse market as much as I miss a market that served my interests. I haven't bought a new model in the semi-auto category in a long time.

dgludwig · June 24, 2021, 11:30 AM

The perfect handgun has been with us, albeit discontinued, for the past 23 years or so; the fabulous Smith & Wesson Model 945 and its many iterations. Perfection that would make a Glock blush with shame.

101combatvet · June 24, 2021, 11:46 AM

It has already been made.

Pumpkin · June 24, 2021, 12:48 PM

A Broom Handle in 357 Sig.
A Luger
A 10" blue, open sighted 375 Win. Contender.
And a 5" M27, any of these would do it for me.

hemiram · June 26, 2021, 02:26 AM

I've got some close to perfect now, but these would be my fantasy guns:

An S&W 628. Not one made like they would make them now, but a pinned and recessed one just like my 28-2's in every way but in SS. Target grips (I hate the Magna grips in every way), target hammer and trigger too. 4" and 6" too. Never gonna happen, sadly.

CZ SP-01 in SS with night sights. Some nice wood grips along with wrap around rubber ones in the box too. I have no idea why CZ hasn't made this gun yet.

STORM2 · June 26, 2021, 04:47 AM

I’ll keep my Wilson 45 I have but request only 3 changes I forgot in the original order:

It never runs out of ammo (just like the old western movies)
It never misses the target.
It never gets dirty.

There you have the perfect handgun.

PSP · June 26, 2021, 09:08 AM

I've long wished for a slimmer HK produced gun the size of a Kahr P9. My "perfect HK" would have;

DA/SA hammer
3.5" barrel
8 or 9 round mag
optic ready
accessory rail
polymer frame
two or three backstraps
integrated grip activated green laser
Weigh 17 ounces
HK reliability

I can dream can't I.

10-96 · June 26, 2021, 10:21 AM

Why not? I'll start wishing...
I would like to see a 5" S&W L and N framed .38-40 and .44-40. I would like to see a rimless .32 S&W Long (or maybe a lengthened .32ACP?)- and I would like to see it married up with something like a S&W Model 41, or a Model 52, or even the new Sig P210 Target. And, darn it, I'd like to actually see the Sig P210 Carry actually show up on dealers shelves.

May 9, 2021, 09:47 PM	#27
Sarge Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2002 Location: MO Posts: 5,495	I'd hate to put anybody out, so I could settle for a 4 1/2" New Service 44 Special with stags on it. https://www.gunauction.com/buy/8911918 __________________ People were smarter before the Internet, or imbeciles were harder to notice.

May 9, 2021, 10:17 PM	#29
Onward Allusion Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2009 Location: Back in a Non-Free State Posts: 3,133	10 shot revolver based off of the S&W N-Frame or Taurus Large Frame chambered in 327 Federal Magnum with a full lugged 4" barrel, preferably in matte stainless. __________________ Simple as ABC . . . Always Be Carrying

May 10, 2021, 09:06 AM	#31
Moonglum Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2015 Posts: 468	I'm content with my Glock 19. __________________ Skating On Thin Ice

May 10, 2021, 11:55 AM	#33
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 14, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,642	Smith & Wesson already made it. 4" Model 19. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

May 10, 2021, 10:21 PM	#35
Nodak1858 Senior Member Join Date: September 7, 2009 Location: N. Dakota Posts: 446	Nice, for some reason i have a thing for the 7.62x25 round. Probably explains all my Tokarevs __________________ We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true.

May 9, 2021, 03:26 PM	#26
KyJim Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2005 Location: The Bluegrass Posts: 9,149	When I first read the thread title, I thought we were talking theoretical handguns, not real ones. My theoretical handgun would have a powerful, light-weight battery that could generate a pulse strong enough to launch a 55-grain .223/5.56 bullet out of a four-inch barrel at 3,200 fps. Since a cartridge and powder would be unnecessary, I think you could get 10+ rounds into a magazine and the gun would still be concealable. Essentially, it would be a mini-railgun and would not require a suppressor.

May 9, 2021, 09:56 PM	#28
pete2 Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 2,613	Mine would be a 686 built by S&W in 1955, since this is make believe! The 686 would be a great gun built by craftsmen instead of the assemblers of today.

May 10, 2021, 09:46 AM	#32
GE-Minigun Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 2008 Posts: 240	1911 in either 40 or 45, under 15oz....12 to 13oz would be perfect. Man can dream, correct?

May 11, 2021, 01:53 AM	#36
geologist Senior Member Join Date: March 8, 2005 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 247	I'd like a Paris Theodore ASP. They are very rare in Canada. Last edited by geologist; May 12, 2021 at 08:49 PM.

May 11, 2021, 04:32 AM	#37
Cosmodragoon Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2013 Location: Northeastern US Posts: 1,869	I'd like a good, compact, decocker-only, hammer-fired DA/SA carry gun that is easy to carry and fun to shoot. No, the XDE doesn't do it for me. It's 2021. The P365 is a thing. Do something like that, but with the above features. Heck, a polymer-framed version of the P239 would be acceptable. Just throw us a bone.

May 11, 2021, 08:24 AM	#38
tomrkba Senior Member Join Date: November 29, 2011 Posts: 751	A functional 1911?

May 11, 2021, 08:26 AM	#39
tomrkba Senior Member Join Date: November 29, 2011 Posts: 751	1) I would like a 10 round capacity 1 1/2 stack 1911 with as short of grip as possible and 4 1/4” barrel. 2) Take a Glock 17. Change the outside to look exactly like a 1911. Modify it for a single action trigger and thumb safety. 3) Build a 1911 around the Glock 19 and Glock 30 magazines.

May 12, 2021, 08:39 PM	#40
D-Ric902 Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 2004 Location: Northeastern Indiana Posts: 402	I think a S&W 329 PD (the scandium 44 mag) Would be awesome converted to a 45 Colt (You listening Mr Bowen?) __________________ mercysdad.com

May 13, 2021, 10:40 AM	#41
stinkeypete Senior Member Join Date: July 22, 2010 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Posts: 1,344	D-Rick, Mr. Bowen is now so busy he’s only doing jobs he is interested in. I doubt that a caliber conversion on aluminum parts would be accepted. Anyone with the reamers can open up those .44 holes to .45. A Bowen is a sculpted piece of steel, with attention to perfected lines, reduced weight, nod to history, beautiful metal finish, maybe even exotic grips. I have a Bowen .44 Magnum, and that’s not something they really take on anymore. Too mundane. The 329 is a very attractive aluminum field revolver, but I submit you just load yours with .44 Special and think of it as a .44-40 and you’re done for free. And you can worry less about cracking the frame than those pounding their hands shooting magnum loads out of that lightweight hammer. __________________ My book "The Pheasant Hunter's Action Adventure Cookbook" is now on Amazon. Tall tales, hunting tips, butchering from bird to the freezer, and recipes.

June 5, 2021, 09:07 PM	#42
moe.ron Member Join Date: July 4, 2008 Location: Macomb County MI Posts: 52	P229 just a little lighter.

June 6, 2021, 05:51 AM	#43
Cosmodragoon Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2013 Location: Northeastern US Posts: 1,869	I still want hammer-fired, DA/SA, decocker-only alternatives with good stock triggers. I get that things are still a little crazy right now. There are still plenty of old timers who'd want this. There are still young people who learned on a metal Sig, decocker-model CZ, etc. There is a real and hopefully growing cross-section of people who care about trigger feedback on reholstering with people who feel that extraneous manual safety levers could be counterproductive in real-life defensive encounters. I recently got excited when I found out that the P40L in 10mm was being imported again. Then I found out that only the manual safety version was being imported. It's a bit like seeing paddle-releases replaced with an "M2" that trades distinction for "more of the same". I miss a more diverse market as much as I miss a market that served my interests. I haven't bought a new model in the semi-auto category in a long time. Last edited by Cosmodragoon; June 6, 2021 at 06:10 AM. Reason: Accident

June 24, 2021, 11:30 AM	#44
dgludwig Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2005 Location: North central Ohio Posts: 7,487	The perfect handgun has been with us, albeit discontinued, for the past 23 years or so; the fabulous Smith & Wesson Model 945 and its many iterations. Perfection that would make a Glock blush with shame. __________________ ONLY AN ARMED PEOPLE CAN BE TRULY FREE ; ONLY AN UNARMED PEOPLE CAN EVER BE ENSLAVED ...Aristotle NRA Benefactor Life Member

June 24, 2021, 11:46 AM	#45
101combatvet Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2011 Posts: 675	It has already been made. __________________ Special Operations Combat Veteran Gunsmith, BS, MFA, Competitive Shooter NRA Certified Firearms Instructor [9 Certifications]

June 24, 2021, 12:48 PM	#46
Pumpkin Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2020 Location: Seguin Texas Posts: 1,002	A Broom Handle in 357 Sig. A Luger A 10" blue, open sighted 375 Win. Contender. And a 5" M27, any of these would do it for me.

June 26, 2021, 02:26 AM	#47
hemiram Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2005 Location: Toledo, ohio Posts: 762	I've got some close to perfect now, but these would be my fantasy guns: An S&W 628. Not one made like they would make them now, but a pinned and recessed one just like my 28-2's in every way but in SS. Target grips (I hate the Magna grips in every way), target hammer and trigger too. 4" and 6" too. Never gonna happen, sadly. CZ SP-01 in SS with night sights. Some nice wood grips along with wrap around rubber ones in the box too. I have no idea why CZ hasn't made this gun yet.

June 26, 2021, 04:47 AM	#48
STORM2 Member Join Date: January 23, 2021 Location: Texas Posts: 77	I’ll keep my Wilson 45 I have but request only 3 changes I forgot in the original order: It never runs out of ammo (just like the old western movies) It never misses the target. It never gets dirty. There you have the perfect handgun.

June 26, 2021, 09:08 AM	#49
PSP Senior Member Join Date: June 2, 2006 Location: Bowling Green Virginia Posts: 4,496	I've long wished for a slimmer HK produced gun the size of a Kahr P9. My "perfect HK" would have; DA/SA hammer 3.5" barrel 8 or 9 round mag optic ready accessory rail polymer frame two or three backstraps integrated grip activated green laser Weigh 17 ounces HK reliability I can dream can't I.

June 26, 2021, 10:21 AM	#50
10-96 Senior Member Join Date: October 19, 2005 Location: Tx Panhandle Territory Posts: 4,190	Why not? I'll start wishing... I would like to see a 5" S&W L and N framed .38-40 and .44-40. I would like to see a rimless .32 S&W Long (or maybe a lengthened .32ACP?)- and I would like to see it married up with something like a S&W Model 41, or a Model 52, or even the new Sig P210 Target. And, darn it, I'd like to actually see the Sig P210 Carry actually show up on dealers shelves. __________________ Rednecks... Keeping the woods critter-free since March 2, 1836. (TX Independence Day) I suspect a thing or two... because I've seen a thing or two.