45 acp that's not a 1911 . . . - Page 2

OPC · June 25, 2024, 05:30 PM

I am a big fan of the HK USP compact and full size. Outstanding guns to shoot. Mine are the Variant 1: DA/SA, manual safety, right handed controls.

Though I do wish I had also gotten a Mark 23 back when they were more affordable.

oughtsix · June 25, 2024, 07:41 PM

The SIG 220 is a great full sized heavy gun.

If you are looking for a lighter weight carry gun I highly recommend the XD mod 2 3.3" in .45acp. With its integrated extended magazine it carries 14 rounds and shoots like a full sized gun. With the flush magazine it carries like a sub compact. The trigger is excellent and it has all the little features I love; firing pin cocked indicator on the back that is both visual and tactile, chamber empty indicator that is both visual and tactile. Unlike some grip safeties the grip safety is seamless.

Paul105 · June 25, 2024, 08:23 PM

Couple of Kahrs - CW45 (bottom) and CM45 (top). The CM45 (top) is harder to shoot and it's a bit frisky recoil wise and more finicky ammo wise.
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**44 AMP** · June 25, 2024, 09:58 PM

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The SIG 220 is a great full sized heavy gun.

We're going to disagree on what is "full sized" and what "heavy" is.

My standard for full sized is the M1911A1 (aka Colt Govt model). The SiG 220 is significantly shorter and about half a pound lighter. Its not a "big" or "Heavy" gun to me.

What's your standard??

Joespapa · June 26, 2024, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by The Verminator

Glock 30 and Remington R1 Commander.

Both excellent.

Glock is a Gen 4 and recoil is mild compared to other .45s I've had.

Absolutely agree! Glock 30 is way softer shooter than my 5” steel 1911. My winter ccw.

Skans · June 26, 2024, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Prof Young

Forum Followers:

I think is want another semi auto that shoots 45 ACP, but that is NOT a 1911. I have a really nice Ruger SR1911 that is great to shoot, but I have a hankering for something else. And yeah, I could do the research but it's more fun to ask here. And will be a fun gun, range toy. I suppose if it was small and I could shoot it well it could become a carry gun, but that is NOT why I'm looking.

So tell me about your 45 ACP that is not a 1911.

Thanks.

Life is good.
Prof Young

A Range Toy 45 that is not a 1911 - here are some suggestions others likely have not mentioned.
- Megastar 45
- Bren Ten 45
- Ruger P90DC
- Smith and Wesson 645
- Inglis P35 45ACP (45ACP Hi-Power)
- CZ 97B

All steel. All 45ACP. No plastic. NO 1911's!

smee78 · June 26, 2024, 09:03 AM

The FNX-45 is my bedside gun, and I enjoy carrying a G30SF. I have a Sig P220 and it shoots great but is a single stack just like a 1911 so.....

jmstr · July 20, 2024, 03:54 AM

A nod to the inexpensive yet reliable and accurate Ruger P97DC.

There are many that are better on paper and in looks. The P97DS has a very off-putting recoil impulse, due to the recoil damping properties of the recoil rod/cam design.

However, it has been very accurate in my hands and I have a fond spot for them.

Sure, there are much nicer designs, but the Ruger P97 deserves a review.

**Mike Irwin** · July 20, 2024, 10:23 PM

I have a Smith 4506-1 that I bought some years ago. I absolutely love it.

I'm not 100% sure, but it's marked HPD, so it may be a former Harrisburg Police Department gun. I grew up 7 miles from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, and spent a lot of time there over the years.

And the HPD toted 4506s for many, many years.

I also have a Smith & Wesson Model of 1917 revolver made for the Brazilian military.

Also love that one.

1972RedNeck · July 20, 2024, 10:24 PM

I absolutely hate plastic guns, but then I made the mistake of shooting a PX4.

I now own a couple PX4s, one of which is a 45. Highly recommended.

Not sure if its me or the gun or just the perfect combination, but they flat shoot.

Super Sneaky Steve · July 20, 2024, 10:55 PM

Discontinued now but the S&W Performance Center Shield 45 4" is a very reliable firearm in 45. When you're talking 45's slide length matters. A 45 really likes a longer slide. It gives a better feed angle and dwell time which greatly increases reliability. Mine came with a 4# trigger which I didn't like so I called S&W and they told me the purple trigger return spring would increase the weight. It now breaks at 8# which is perfect for a handgun without a manual safety or heavy double action.

The gun is as thin as you can possibly get and very light. I put a tritium front sight on it and it's good to go. The grip is very aggressive so you may want to sand it down.

10-96 · July 21, 2024, 12:31 AM

The Savage Model 1907 was in .45ACP flavor. Likely going to have a bit of trouble finding of those though.

JustJake · July 21, 2024, 08:44 AM

S&W 645 or the 3rd Gen version, the model 4506. Both were 5” DA/SA guns.

deadcoyote · July 21, 2024, 06:13 PM

I also love sig 220. Just to throw it out there since you mentioned concealed carry sig make a carry version I think it was the P245. They’re out there, I’ve almost moved on one a few times. Similar vein SW made a nice carry 45 called the model 457.

gwpercle · July 21, 2024, 06:23 PM

Taurus model 455

Think snub nose J-frame S&W , 5 shot but in ... 45 ACP !
Why S&W doesn't make one I'll never know but the Taurus 455 is SWEET !
Gary

PolarFBear · July 23, 2024, 12:23 PM

No longer in production but just picked up a STAR Firestar 45. It's a bit heavy, all steel, but should shoot fine. Picked it up for #300. I also have the S&W (non-Performance Center) compact M&P. It is a pleasure to shoot.

FITASC · July 23, 2024, 03:28 PM

Don't forget older S&W's like the 645

FITASC · July 23, 2024, 03:36 PM

2wheelwander · August 6, 2024, 06:55 AM

I have to give a shout out to my Springfield Mod 2. It's not sexy, it's not flashy, but it works.

Years ago I bought one for a security detail. Wanted a smaller CCW in .45 and bought one. Having never shot it, went to the local LE range to qualify the Indiana Law Enforcement Academy process. Shot a 297/300. I'd never shot the gun before. Maybe it was just a good day, but that gun fit me. Lots of other .45's I'd rather have, but for a CCW, I love it.

Sits in a drawer next to by bed now.

Jack19 · August 7, 2024, 07:42 AM

Added bonus, the MSRP on all of them is less than $700 and a lifetime service policy.

M&P 2.0 FULL SIZE Series
M&P®45 M2.0 THUMB SAFETY
SKU: 11526

M&P 2.0 FULL SIZE Series
M&P®45 M2.0 NO THUMB SAFETY COMPLIANT
SKU: 13007

M&P 2.0 FULL SIZE Series
M&P®45 M2.0® THREADED BARREL OPTICS READY FULL SIZE
SKU: 13586

If you want to go old school, my personal favorite, the 4516.

Joespapa · August 7, 2024, 08:19 AM

Glock 30 Gen 4. Softest shooting 45 ever.

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stinkeypete · August 7, 2024, 12:06 PM

"Though I do wish I had also gotten a Mark 23 back when they were more affordable."

I don't think they were EVER 'more affordable'! My dad gave me his, saying it was wonderful workmanship but just too darned big. I agreed!

I think I traded mine for a brand new Beretta 686!

**44 AMP** · August 7, 2024, 01:45 PM

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Glock 30 Gen 4. Softest shooting 45 ever.

I tend to doubt that. Might be the softest you've ever met, but nothing the size and weight of a Glock 30 can be the "softest ever".

OPC · August 7, 2024, 05:25 PM

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I think I traded mine for a brand new Beretta 686

I'd happily trade my 686 Onyx for a Mk23, but even when new my 686 was nowhere near the value of a MK23.

Road_Clam · August 16, 2024, 09:07 AM

FNX45T (im a suppressed type of guy ). Super smooth shooting , double stack platform. Only downside is extremely complicated to perform a complete teardown to clean.

June 25, 2024, 05:30 PM	#26
OPC Senior Member Join Date: January 9, 2007 Posts: 208	I am a big fan of the HK USP compact and full size. Outstanding guns to shoot. Mine are the Variant 1: DA/SA, manual safety, right handed controls. Though I do wish I had also gotten a Mark 23 back when they were more affordable. __________________ *José*

June 26, 2024, 09:03 AM	#32
smee78 Senior Member Join Date: July 14, 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 2,952	The FNX-45 is my bedside gun, and I enjoy carrying a G30SF. I have a Sig P220 and it shoots great but is a single stack just like a 1911 so..... __________________ We know exactly where one cow with Mad-cow-disease is located, among the millions and millions of cows in America, but we haven't got a clue where thousands of illegal immigrants and terrorists are

July 20, 2024, 10:23 PM	#34
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 14, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,642	I have a Smith 4506-1 that I bought some years ago. I absolutely love it. I'm not 100% sure, but it's marked HPD, so it may be a former Harrisburg Police Department gun. I grew up 7 miles from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, and spent a lot of time there over the years. And the HPD toted 4506s for many, many years. I also have a Smith & Wesson Model of 1917 revolver made for the Brazilian military. Also love that one. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

July 21, 2024, 12:31 AM	#37
10-96 Senior Member Join Date: October 19, 2005 Location: Tx Panhandle Territory Posts: 4,190	The Savage Model 1907 was in .45ACP flavor. Likely going to have a bit of trouble finding of those though. __________________ Rednecks... Keeping the woods critter-free since March 2, 1836. (TX Independence Day) I suspect a thing or two... because I've seen a thing or two.

July 21, 2024, 08:44 AM	#38
JustJake Senior Member Join Date: August 12, 2020 Posts: 528	S&W 645 or the 3rd Gen version, the model 4506. Both were 5” DA/SA guns. __________________ I use the Jake Brake every chance I get. Don't care if it annoys you. Hear me now?!

June 25, 2024, 08:23 PM	#28
Paul105 Senior Member Join Date: March 26, 2007 Location: Montana Posts: 347	Couple of Kahrs - CW45 (bottom) and CM45 (top). The CM45 (top) is harder to shoot and it's a bit frisky recoil wise and more finicky ammo wise. .

July 20, 2024, 03:54 AM	#33
jmstr Senior Member Join Date: February 24, 2001 Location: San Joaquin Valley, CA Posts: 1,304	A nod to the inexpensive yet reliable and accurate Ruger P97DC. There are many that are better on paper and in looks. The P97DS has a very off-putting recoil impulse, due to the recoil damping properties of the recoil rod/cam design. However, it has been very accurate in my hands and I have a fond spot for them. Sure, there are much nicer designs, but the Ruger P97 deserves a review.

July 20, 2024, 10:24 PM	#35
1972RedNeck Senior Member Join Date: December 8, 2015 Posts: 381	I absolutely hate plastic guns, but then I made the mistake of shooting a PX4. I now own a couple PX4s, one of which is a 45. Highly recommended. Not sure if its me or the gun or just the perfect combination, but they flat shoot.

July 20, 2024, 10:55 PM	#36
Super Sneaky Steve Senior Member Join Date: August 9, 2011 Posts: 1,332	Discontinued now but the S&W Performance Center Shield 45 4" is a very reliable firearm in 45. When you're talking 45's slide length matters. A 45 really likes a longer slide. It gives a better feed angle and dwell time which greatly increases reliability. Mine came with a 4# trigger which I didn't like so I called S&W and they told me the purple trigger return spring would increase the weight. It now breaks at 8# which is perfect for a handgun without a manual safety or heavy double action. The gun is as thin as you can possibly get and very light. I put a tritium front sight on it and it's good to go. The grip is very aggressive so you may want to sand it down.

July 21, 2024, 06:13 PM	#39
deadcoyote Senior Member Join Date: April 13, 2009 Location: northern CA Posts: 724	I also love sig 220. Just to throw it out there since you mentioned concealed carry sig make a carry version I think it was the P245. They’re out there, I’ve almost moved on one a few times. Similar vein SW made a nice carry 45 called the model 457.

July 21, 2024, 06:23 PM	#40
gwpercle Senior Member Join Date: November 30, 2012 Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana Posts: 1,915	Taurus model 455 Think snub nose J-frame S&W , 5 shot but in ... 45 ACP ! Why S&W doesn't make one I'll never know but the Taurus 455 is SWEET ! Gary

July 23, 2024, 12:23 PM	#41
PolarFBear Senior Member Join Date: April 22, 2015 Location: NE Tennessee, a "Free State" Posts: 487	Non-1911 45 acp No longer in production but just picked up a STAR Firestar 45. It's a bit heavy, all steel, but should shoot fine. Picked it up for #300. I also have the S&W (non-Performance Center) compact M&P. It is a pleasure to shoot.

July 23, 2024, 03:28 PM	#42
FITASC Senior Member Join Date: December 6, 2014 Posts: 6,655	Don't forget older S&W's like the 645 __________________ "I believe that people have a right to decide their own destinies; people own themselves. I also believe that, in a democracy, government exists because (and only so long as) individual citizens give it a 'temporary license to exist'—in exchange for a promise that it will behave itself. In a democracy, you own the government—it doesn't own you."- Frank Zappa

July 23, 2024, 03:36 PM	#43
FITASC Senior Member Join Date: December 6, 2014 Posts: 6,655	__________________ "I believe that people have a right to decide their own destinies; people own themselves. I also believe that, in a democracy, government exists because (and only so long as) individual citizens give it a 'temporary license to exist'—in exchange for a promise that it will behave itself. In a democracy, you own the government—it doesn't own you."- Frank Zappa

August 6, 2024, 06:55 AM	#44
2wheelwander Senior Member Join Date: January 9, 2018 Posts: 626	I have to give a shout out to my Springfield Mod 2. It's not sexy, it's not flashy, but it works. Years ago I bought one for a security detail. Wanted a smaller CCW in .45 and bought one. Having never shot it, went to the local LE range to qualify the Indiana Law Enforcement Academy process. Shot a 297/300. I'd never shot the gun before. Maybe it was just a good day, but that gun fit me. Lots of other .45's I'd rather have, but for a CCW, I love it. Sits in a drawer next to by bed now.

August 7, 2024, 07:42 AM	#45
Jack19 Senior Member Join Date: August 18, 2001 Location: Earth Posts: 751	Added bonus, the MSRP on all of them is less than $700 and a lifetime service policy. M&P 2.0 FULL SIZE Series M&P®45 M2.0 THUMB SAFETY SKU: 11526 M&P 2.0 FULL SIZE Series M&P®45 M2.0 NO THUMB SAFETY COMPLIANT SKU: 13007 M&P 2.0 FULL SIZE Series M&P®45 M2.0® THREADED BARREL OPTICS READY FULL SIZE SKU: 13586 If you want to go old school, my personal favorite, the 4516. __________________ Once people stop believing in God, the problem is not that they will believe in nothing; rather, the problem is that they will believe anything. - C. S. Lewis Last edited by Jack19; August 7, 2024 at 07:55 AM.

August 7, 2024, 08:19 AM	#46
Joespapa Member Join Date: September 30, 2012 Posts: 30	Glock 30 Gen 4. Softest shooting 45 ever. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

August 7, 2024, 12:06 PM	#47
stinkeypete Senior Member Join Date: July 22, 2010 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Posts: 1,344	"Though I do wish I had also gotten a Mark 23 back when they were more affordable." I don't think they were EVER 'more affordable'! My dad gave me his, saying it was wonderful workmanship but just too darned big. I agreed! I think I traded mine for a brand new Beretta 686! __________________ My book "The Pheasant Hunter's Action Adventure Cookbook" is now on Amazon. Tall tales, hunting tips, butchering from bird to the freezer, and recipes.

August 16, 2024, 09:07 AM	#50
Road_Clam Senior Member Join Date: November 21, 2013 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 1,719	FNX45T (im a suppressed type of guy ). Super smooth shooting , double stack platform. Only downside is extremely complicated to perform a complete teardown to clean. __________________ "To be old an wise you must have been young and stupid"