Jim Shockey fff - Page 2

Hardy · August 13, 2010, 10:34 PM

No Model P==you got it wrong. It's what happened in me asking if I could post ya'lls remarks on this powder. Had nothing to do with these posts which are good. I HAVE NEVER QUOTED ANYONE ON THIS thread or any others. I Promise. Goodby

B.L.E. · August 14, 2010, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by flintforever

I like to ask someone gave me some Jim Shockley Gold gold in pellets I wonder can I work them into powder loose and use them in my ruger?
I also have a off question Goex 3F in my Ruger old army I have a few cans of 4F can I reduce the charge with the finer powder and use it in the old army?

Lyman's Black Powder Handbook lists FFFFg loads for the Old Army.

31 grains G-O FFFFg = 964 fps with .457 roundball
41 grains G-O FFFFg = 1036 fps.

The Ruger is strong enough that it won't blow up the gun, even FFFFg develops far lower pressures than smokeless loads develop.

I have shot 4f loads myself and that 41 grain full chamber load does get the attention of other shooters at a public range.

robhof · August 14, 2010, 03:22 PM

I've also used the 4f in my ROA, the 1st time was when I brought it and my flint rifle to the range and ran out of the pyrodex that I was using as my main propellent in the ROA, had a full primer horn of 4f for the flint tray. I put in 35 the 1st time and it shot just fine so I added the extra 5 and what a bang, I ended up emptying my primer horn too. The ROA manual says any granulation of powder can be used, but best results can be had with 3f, I got excellent accuracy with 40gr of 4f a wonder wad and round ball.

Hardy · August 16, 2010, 06:51 PM

OK There was a misunderstanding. Sorry =It is cleared up. I'm back. Are ya'll gonna shoot me! Yes, I was confused about JS 3 (and appreciate observations and feedback) and since the original post of this topic- I have been doing a little more shootin w/it. It appears to work great without wads between powder and ball. Maybe the wad contributed to the compression issues. 30 grains in 44's works better than same w/pyrodex in my tests when shooting at targets 25 to 35 ft. Any further or closer I do not know.

August 14, 2010, 03:22 PM	#28
robhof Senior Member Join Date: September 16, 2007 Posts: 712	robhof I've also used the 4f in my ROA, the 1st time was when I brought it and my flint rifle to the range and ran out of the pyrodex that I was using as my main propellent in the ROA, had a full primer horn of 4f for the flint tray. I put in 35 the 1st time and it shot just fine so I added the extra 5 and what a bang, I ended up emptying my primer horn too. The ROA manual says any granulation of powder can be used, but best results can be had with 3f, I got excellent accuracy with 40gr of 4f a wonder wad and round ball.

August 13, 2010, 10:34 PM	#26
Hardy Senior Member Join Date: August 6, 2009 Location: South Carolina Posts: 709	No Model P==you got it wrong. It's what happened in me asking if I could post ya'lls remarks on this powder. Had nothing to do with these posts which are good. I HAVE NEVER QUOTED ANYONE ON THIS thread or any others. I Promise. Goodby

August 16, 2010, 06:51 PM	#29
Hardy Senior Member Join Date: August 6, 2009 Location: South Carolina Posts: 709	OK There was a misunderstanding. Sorry =It is cleared up. I'm back. Are ya'll gonna shoot me! Yes, I was confused about JS 3 (and appreciate observations and feedback) and since the original post of this topic- I have been doing a little more shootin w/it. It appears to work great without wads between powder and ball. Maybe the wad contributed to the compression issues. 30 grains in 44's works better than same w/pyrodex in my tests when shooting at targets 25 to 35 ft. Any further or closer I do not know.