Does your husband carry? - Page 2

btmj · July 8, 2013, 11:27 PM

Agree with Kathy here. Slide manipulation can be mastered by anyone who is able to do everyday manual tasks, such as driving, opening a jar of mustard, or swinging a tennis racket.

The biggest variable among people is the size and shape of the hand. On average, a man's hand is larger than a woman's hand, but there is a lot of overlap and a small man may have a smaller hand size than a tall broad shouldered woman. Also, the length of the fingers has an effect on gun fit. A person with small hands but with long thin fingers may be able to use a fairly thick gun. Another person with a seemingly large hand may have short fingers, and a thick gun does not work. Some people have such thick fingers that small guns don't work.

It is not a man/woman issue, it is a hand size and shape issue.

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Sgt Lumpy, I laughed at your post....

dakota.potts · July 9, 2013, 01:43 AM

I agree with pax on slide manipulation. I'm a male but I'm 17 and I'm 5'6 and 110 lbs. to say nothing of my hand size. I have very small hands. When my dad brought home my CZ 75 from the gunshop (I hadn't held it yet) he told me I had made a mistake. I picked up the gun and couldn't rack the slide. Literally could not get the hammer to go from down to half cock no matter how I struggled.

I bought some snap caps, watched some videos, read The Cornered Cat article dealing with this issue, and spent 6 hours practicing.

It's pretty effortless now but was very hard at first. I've not held a gun since that I couldn't manipulate. Although I haven't tested my luck with a desert eagle yet

Thanks Pax!

Venom1956 · July 9, 2013, 02:14 AM

I use a length of pipe, or perhaps a wooden club if I'm feeling old school. I mean I am a MAN!

Women cannot use such devices they are small and weak and need hands to hold flowers and do house work

**Mike Irwin** · July 9, 2013, 06:06 AM

Hey JGL...

Don't **** me off. You won't like it when I'm ****** off...

kahrguy · July 9, 2013, 06:47 AM

This guy carries a kahr cm9 as a blue collar got to work pocket pistol. a cw9 for basic iwb and a tp40 for when a cover is warranted. All one brand , same function.

I have also met some soft mealy kind of guys at a public range that could not hardly rack a pistol that my 100lb daughter could easily deal with. She can rack my cm9 kahr . Not known to be easy to rack.

40-82 · July 9, 2013, 07:57 AM

Kathy,

I've read enough of your posts to know that you're one tough lady. You have two choices to give to a man new to guns, a cut down 1911 45 auto or a snub-nosed 44 magnum.

If the poor sod limp-wrists the 45 auto and it jams on him or he doesn't hold the magnum tight enough to keep from driving the front sight back into his forehead, you'll know him for a wimp and dump him.

I'm guessing that your post is a parody on the typical 'what kind of a little anemic gun should I get for a woman who is afriad of guns and doesn't much like them.' Any man who takes it as a matter of his birthright that he will always have more competence with firearms than any woman he meets is setting himself up to be humiliated.

In my small experience with teaching new shooters, I've always found women to learn more easily than men because they're not embarrassed to admit that they need help.

Edd

m&p45acp10+1 · July 9, 2013, 09:42 AM

I say guys need a gun that points like a remote control. Loads like opening a bag of Doritos. Feels as natural in the hand as a beer. Also it needs a holster that he can reach quickly whenever he is not dragging his knuckles on the ground.

pax · July 9, 2013, 11:28 AM

Quote:

I say guys need a gun that points like a remote control. Loads like opening a bag of Doritos. Feels as natural in the hand as a beer. Also it needs a holster that he can reach quickly whenever he is not dragging his knuckles on the ground.

Win!

Also, Mike Irwin's weasel made me laugh.

Um. Wait. There's something wrong with that previous sentence, but I don't know how to fix it.

pax

Rodger_p · July 9, 2013, 12:02 PM

Really! I did just laugh-out-Loud!!

**Mike Irwin** · July 9, 2013, 12:14 PM

It is a mighty weasel...

**Tom Servo** · July 9, 2013, 12:37 PM

Quote:

It is a mighty weasel...

With a Hello Kitty lunchbox...indeed it is.

**Mike Irwin** · July 9, 2013, 12:56 PM

Uhm...

That's a Hello Weasel lunchbox, thank you very @^LIJ$%& much.

Brian Pfleuger · July 9, 2013, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jglsprings

Check out Mike Irwin's web site the Cornered Weasel.

That may well be the funniest post I've ever seen on this site.

I can't stand text-speak acronyms but that one literally made me LOL.

csmsss · July 9, 2013, 03:09 PM

Posturing aside, men prefer pink firearms. Hot, phosphorescent, glow-in-the-dark pink. It's ok to accent certain parts of the gun with, perhaps, contrasting colors (teal or purple are obvious choices), but when we go to bed at night, we're all dreaming of pink steel. We just can't admit it to each other is all.

mrray13 · July 9, 2013, 03:40 PM

Oh boy, threads almost always degenerate to the size of a man's weasel....especially when a woman mentions she laughed at a man's weasel...we all know it's not about the size of the weasel in the fight but rather if Mrs. Weasel gave the weasel permission to be in the fight in the first place.

**Frank Ettin** · July 9, 2013, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Servo

No offense, Pax, but the question is a bit insulting.

Just because we all have Y chromosomes doesn't mean we all have the same preferences, hand size, and emotional drives. I get tired of women thinking we all want a camo-dipped .44 Magnum Loudenbowser because of stereotypes....

I'm sorry, Tom. I have to disagree with you. I think pax is absolutely right.

A mere man can't be expected to be able to choose his own gun. We need to rely on our wives to pick our neckties. How can we expect to be able choose something as important as a gun for ourselves?

Bluestarlizzard · July 9, 2013, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Posturing aside, men prefer pink firearms. Hot, phosphorescent, glow-in-the-dark pink. It's ok to accent certain parts of the gun with, perhaps, contrasting colors (teal or purple are obvious choices), but when we go to bed at night, we're all dreaming of pink steel. We just can't admit it to each other is all.

Hmmm... Maybe I'll have to get Dad something pink for Christmas. Especially considering I finagled away his roll of hot pink duct tape.
He'd carry it too. *grin*

Glenn E. Meyer · July 9, 2013, 08:44 PM

Not to divert but my daughter when 14 and 5'2" could rack my semis.

I showed it to her. Gave her the gun and said do it. Zip.

I suggest a little LCP with the raspberry colored grips as they are very attractive.

Bluestarlizzard · July 9, 2013, 09:16 PM

^ Glen, I hear you.

To be honest, I get a little cufuddled at the concept that a slide is to hard to rack. I was racking slides on semi's from age 8 and up, and I don't recall ever failing to get it. Some of them, I would have a little struggle to get past the learning curve, but I never met a slide I couldn't figure out.

Now loading certain magizines can cause words of an explicit nature to be spewed like a drunk sailor, even with a loader, and there have been some I could not get the last few rounds in, but slides and triggers where never that difficult, even with small hands.

seeker_two · July 9, 2013, 09:17 PM

Are we still talking about Mike's weasel?....

Bluestarlizzard · July 9, 2013, 09:19 PM

I would prefer to forget mikes weasel.

I may have to burn floppy disks as an offering to the gods to get the mental pictures this thread has caused out of my head.

**Mike Irwin** · July 9, 2013, 09:43 PM

"I may have to burn floppy disks as an offering to the gods to get the mental pictures this thread has caused out of my head."

That's another discussion from another board.

redhologram · July 9, 2013, 10:45 PM

It was the weasel that got me, I confess. Add in some floppy disks.. floppy weasel??

Not sure what all I was reading I was LOL'ing so hard... It went downhill from there.. lol I have to agree, this is probably the funniest thread I have yet to read on TFL..

July 9, 2013, 02:14 AM	#28
Venom1956 Senior Member Join Date: October 4, 2008 Location: WI Posts: 3,656	I use a length of pipe, or perhaps a wooden club if I'm feeling old school. I mean I am a MAN! Women cannot use such devices they are small and weak and need hands to hold flowers and do house work __________________ E-Shock rounds are engineered to expend maximum energy into soft targets, turning the density mass into an expanding rotational cone of NyTrilium matrix particles, causing neurological collapse to the central nervous system.- Yeah I can do that. I guarantee you will know it if a bicyclist hits your house going 1000 mph. -Smaug

July 9, 2013, 06:06 AM	#29
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,390	Hey JGL... Don't ** me off. You won't like it when I'm **** off... __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

July 9, 2013, 09:42 AM	#32
m&p45acp10+1 Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2009 Location: Central Texas Posts: 3,930	I say guys need a gun that points like a remote control. Loads like opening a bag of Doritos. Feels as natural in the hand as a beer. Also it needs a holster that he can reach quickly whenever he is not dragging his knuckles on the ground. __________________ No matter how many times you do it and nothing happens it only takes something going wrong one time to kill you.

July 9, 2013, 12:14 PM	#35
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,390	It is a mighty weasel... __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

July 9, 2013, 12:56 PM	#37
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,390	Uhm... That's a Hello Weasel lunchbox, thank you very @^LIJ$%& much. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

July 8, 2013, 11:27 PM	#26
btmj Senior Member Join Date: November 1, 2011 Location: Near St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 864	Agree with Kathy here. Slide manipulation can be mastered by anyone who is able to do everyday manual tasks, such as driving, opening a jar of mustard, or swinging a tennis racket. The biggest variable among people is the size and shape of the hand. On average, a man's hand is larger than a woman's hand, but there is a lot of overlap and a small man may have a smaller hand size than a tall broad shouldered woman. Also, the length of the fingers has an effect on gun fit. A person with small hands but with long thin fingers may be able to use a fairly thick gun. Another person with a seemingly large hand may have short fingers, and a thick gun does not work. Some people have such thick fingers that small guns don't work. It is not a man/woman issue, it is a hand size and shape issue. ================ Sgt Lumpy, I laughed at your post....

July 9, 2013, 01:43 AM	#27
dakota.potts Senior Member Join Date: February 25, 2013 Location: Keystone Heights, Florida Posts: 3,084	I agree with pax on slide manipulation. I'm a male but I'm 17 and I'm 5'6 and 110 lbs. to say nothing of my hand size. I have very small hands. When my dad brought home my CZ 75 from the gunshop (I hadn't held it yet) he told me I had made a mistake. I picked up the gun and couldn't rack the slide. Literally could not get the hammer to go from down to half cock no matter how I struggled. I bought some snap caps, watched some videos, read The Cornered Cat article dealing with this issue, and spent 6 hours practicing. It's pretty effortless now but was very hard at first. I've not held a gun since that I couldn't manipulate. Although I haven't tested my luck with a desert eagle yet Thanks Pax!

July 9, 2013, 06:47 AM	#30
kahrguy Senior Member Join Date: October 1, 2012 Posts: 561	This guy carries a kahr cm9 as a blue collar got to work pocket pistol. a cw9 for basic iwb and a tp40 for when a cover is warranted. All one brand , same function. I have also met some soft mealy kind of guys at a public range that could not hardly rack a pistol that my 100lb daughter could easily deal with. She can rack my cm9 kahr . Not known to be easy to rack.

July 9, 2013, 07:57 AM	#31
40-82 Senior Member Join Date: June 6, 2013 Posts: 178	Kathy, I've read enough of your posts to know that you're one tough lady. You have two choices to give to a man new to guns, a cut down 1911 45 auto or a snub-nosed 44 magnum. If the poor sod limp-wrists the 45 auto and it jams on him or he doesn't hold the magnum tight enough to keep from driving the front sight back into his forehead, you'll know him for a wimp and dump him. I'm guessing that your post is a parody on the typical 'what kind of a little anemic gun should I get for a woman who is afriad of guns and doesn't much like them.' Any man who takes it as a matter of his birthright that he will always have more competence with firearms than any woman he meets is setting himself up to be humiliated. In my small experience with teaching new shooters, I've always found women to learn more easily than men because they're not embarrassed to admit that they need help. Edd

July 9, 2013, 12:02 PM	#34
Rodger_p Senior Member Join Date: December 15, 2004 Location: East TN. Posts: 207	Really! I did just laugh-out-Loud!!

July 9, 2013, 03:09 PM	#39
csmsss Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Orange, TX Posts: 3,078	Posturing aside, men prefer pink firearms. Hot, phosphorescent, glow-in-the-dark pink. It's ok to accent certain parts of the gun with, perhaps, contrasting colors (teal or purple are obvious choices), but when we go to bed at night, we're all dreaming of pink steel. We just can't admit it to each other is all.

July 9, 2013, 03:40 PM	#40
mrray13 Senior Member Join Date: January 26, 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 911	Oh boy, threads almost always degenerate to the size of a man's weasel....especially when a woman mentions she laughed at a man's weasel...we all know it's not about the size of the weasel in the fight but rather if Mrs. Weasel gave the weasel permission to be in the fight in the first place.

July 9, 2013, 08:44 PM	#43
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	Not to divert but my daughter when 14 and 5'2" could rack my semis. I showed it to her. Gave her the gun and said do it. Zip. I suggest a little LCP with the raspberry colored grips as they are very attractive. __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens

July 9, 2013, 09:16 PM	#44
Bluestarlizzard Senior Member Join Date: May 23, 2013 Location: Virginia Posts: 347	^ Glen, I hear you. To be honest, I get a little cufuddled at the concept that a slide is to hard to rack. I was racking slides on semi's from age 8 and up, and I don't recall ever failing to get it. Some of them, I would have a little struggle to get past the learning curve, but I never met a slide I couldn't figure out. Now loading certain magizines can cause words of an explicit nature to be spewed like a drunk sailor, even with a loader, and there have been some I could not get the last few rounds in, but slides and triggers where never that difficult, even with small hands. __________________ Mal: "If anyone gets nosy, just...you know... shoot 'em. " Zoe: "Shoot 'em?" Mal: "Politely."

July 9, 2013, 09:17 PM	#45
seeker_two Senior Member Join Date: August 31, 2002 Location: Deep in the Heart of the Lone Star State (TX) Posts: 2,169	Are we still talking about Mike's weasel?.... __________________ Proud member of Gun Culture 2.0......

July 9, 2013, 09:19 PM	#46
Bluestarlizzard Senior Member Join Date: May 23, 2013 Location: Virginia Posts: 347	I would prefer to forget mikes weasel. I may have to burn floppy disks as an offering to the gods to get the mental pictures this thread has caused out of my head. __________________ Mal: "If anyone gets nosy, just...you know... shoot 'em. " Zoe: "Shoot 'em?" Mal: "Politely."

July 9, 2013, 09:43 PM	#47
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,390	"I may have to burn floppy disks as an offering to the gods to get the mental pictures this thread has caused out of my head." That's another discussion from another board. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

July 9, 2013, 10:45 PM	#48
redhologram Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2013 Posts: 352	It was the weasel that got me, I confess. Add in some floppy disks.. floppy weasel?? Not sure what all I was reading I was LOL'ing so hard... It went downhill from there.. lol I have to agree, this is probably the funniest thread I have yet to read on TFL..