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January 14, 2016, 04:46 PM | #101 | |
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One of the Bundy bunch was arrested for the "unauthorized use" of a US government vehicle. The perp is presently out on bail for a previous federal charge.
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January 16, 2016, 09:33 PM | #103 | |
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These guys remind me of the Clanton boys back at Tombstone. Last edited by Colorado Redneck; January 16, 2016 at 09:34 PM. Reason: Quote |
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January 16, 2016, 10:00 PM | #104 |
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They need to send two more into town for groceries, the last trip failed. Attrition is working.
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January 18, 2016, 12:29 AM | #105 |
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If Bundy and his followers think the federal government has no constitutional right to manage the tax payers land, then they should get a good legal team and take it to court. All the way to the supreme court if necessary.
If they want to fight the government they should organize the ranchers and fight with lawyers, lobbyist, and election campaigns. That's the way its done in a civilized democratic country. An armed group taking over territory and dictating is the way its done in the Middle East. |
January 18, 2016, 01:25 AM | #106 | |
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These guys aren't accomplishing anything other than making themselves look like unbalanced nuts. I think the government has shown extraordinary restraint in not resorting to drastic means to get them out of that building. As was stated in a previous post, they need to get lawyers and fight this the legal way, in the courts. If, God forbid, somebody should get trigger happy and create an incident, it's not going to go very well for us who love firearms.
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January 18, 2016, 10:03 AM | #107 |
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I have no qualms about protesting.
I think the media turned this into an "Armed takeover" It's a group exercising one right while exercising another right... I guess mix and match of rights isn't allowed. Law enforcement hasn't bothered too much with them, because they apparently aren't too much of a risk/nothing threatened of value. Not saying I support the group in any way. But I think that Americans have the right to protest, I think it's dangerous to let citizen's only recourse is lawyers.
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January 18, 2016, 11:46 AM | #108 |
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If they want to make a legal argument to the effect that the Patents to public domain land their grandfathers settled and claimed were invalid because the government had no ownership of the public domain under the Constitution, I'd like to see the video of the entire Supreme Court laughing at once.
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January 18, 2016, 12:07 PM | #109 | |
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Right to protest is okay. There is no right to occupy a federal facility, breaking into the buildings, using the vehicles, etc. and there is no right to commit such criminal acts while armed.
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January 18, 2016, 12:38 PM | #110 |
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They make us all look insane
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January 18, 2016, 02:08 PM | #111 |
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All I'm saying is that law enforcement really doesn't seem to care. One guy was arrested for using a truck.
If it was serious then the place would be surrounded by now... It will all go away. The only arms I've seen on the news locally is a few guys with pistols in holsters... Looks like they hiked up their shirt tails for the cameras. Yes they are idiots, and if everyone had ignored them, they'd be gone by now. If no one had mentioned guns, there'd be no attention on it. Just a few guys sitting in an unstaffed ranger station. To me it all seems weird.
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I'm guessing they'll all get tired of it and eventually go home. Then, later, the .feds will come knockin' and arrest a few of them.
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January 18, 2016, 05:49 PM | #113 |
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Law Enforcement cares, all right, no question about that.
It's that Waco and Ruby Ridge changed the entire response concept for this kind of thing, don't let them fort up and then go in guns blazing. Sit tight and wait it out, things will work out when they get tired of the game. They're in the middle of nowhere, the only hazard is to the buildings at the facility and the contents of the buildings. That's not good, but it's not something you scale the ramparts over. If the occupiers start moving to another location, things will change, until then, let 'em play. The press is attempting to foment action, no doubt about it. LEO's are more concerned about the loons trying to come into Burns and piggyback on this thing in the populated town site. That's why the BLM office there has been closed for two weeks, they don't want another facility occupied. |
January 18, 2016, 06:12 PM | #114 |
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Makes more sense that way...
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January 18, 2016, 07:39 PM | #115 | |
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Yep, the Bundys attract some fine folks.
One of the Bundy bodyguards, Brian Cavalier, claimed to be a Marine who had served in Afghanistan and Iraq. Turns out he never served in the USMC. He's a former tattoo artist with arrests for DUI. A second member of the Bundy bunch confessed that he lied about military service in the USMC. Quote:
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What a dirt bag.
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January 18, 2016, 10:38 PM | #117 |
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Yeah well now tell 'em about Pete Santilli , since we're getting this out in the open................."birds of a feather"........'eh.
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January 18, 2016, 10:55 PM | #118 |
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For the record, the left thinks everyone on this forum is exactly like these idiots.
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Several news agencies are reporting the FBI moved in tonight. 1 protester dead, another suffering a minor gunshot wound. 8 arrested including one Bundy and one as far away as Arizona
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...126-story.html
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January 27, 2016, 04:22 AM | #120 |
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Well, as I mentioned in an earlier post, no good will come of this, and that is exactly what has happened. We now have one fatality, a man who was involved in a shootout with the FBI. The FBI is also making arrests, one as far down as Peoria, AZ.
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January 27, 2016, 08:32 AM | #121 |
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Ammon Bundy and his followers will rot in jail while the feds prepare the case against them.
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When these guys brought their guns with them and "occupied" a federal facility, they increased the likelihood of a violent outcome. All of these guys did that by themselves. They were not threatened, they were the threat. Talk of an "uprising" is scaling this up even more.
Those that casually mention "uprising" are most likely without a clue what the endgame will be. Anarchy is not a pretty sight, and the fact is, we in this nation have life really good. Amazing how the voices in some peoples' heads can run them off the rails. |
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The man killed had 11 kids, per the news. Guess he forgot about his priorities.
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January 27, 2016, 02:41 PM | #124 | |
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Those arrested are claiming he had his hands in the air unarmed and was shot in the face. I don't really believe that, or at least that it was that simple, but I am sure many will. I don't find it impossible either. I see why they did not want to interdict at the ranch with news cameras rolling, but this undocumented death may feed the fire, not put it out. Those in the facility have indicated they aren't intimidated and will continue their action. I am willing to bet they will be much more interested in assistance from more radical groups they previously refused, and they will be on high alert just waiting for something to happen. You get enough people on edge like that and something will happen. Maybe there were body/cruiser cams in use. At least things have not escalated today. Last edited by johnwilliamson062; January 27, 2016 at 02:47 PM. |
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It's too bad it had to come to this, but I think this is exactly what many of those folks wanted.
I think the Feds waited so long before they did anything to try and avoid this outcome, but realized it just wasn't gonna happen. While I feel sorry for the dead man and his family, the blame does not lie on the FBI. |
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