.41 Mag Powder Recommendations - Page 2

General_Tso · August 12, 2004, 01:44 PM

Thanks again for the input. I've been using 21.4 grains of H110 behind a 210 XTP. Seems to be a really nice load. Shoots very well at 25 yards: one raged hole from the rest and not much worse from offhand. I haven't had an opportunity to stretch the range out, but I like how it performs so far. Thanks again for your insights.

Chris McDermott · August 14, 2004, 02:40 AM

For full-power loads, the two powders are H110/W296 and Hodgdon's Lil' Gun. Velocities are about the same, as are the amount of powder used, but Lil' Gun sometimes does the same work at much lower pressure levels. Data from Hodgdon's 2004 magazine loading manual:

Remington cases and Winchester LP primers; 10" barrel

210 XTP, COL 1.580"
start=20.5 grains, 1505 fps; max = 22.5 grains, 1626 fps, 29,900 cup

220 Speer JSP, COL 1.580"
start=18.0 grains, 1431 fps; max=20.5 grains, 1563 fps, 31,200 cup

I have noticed Lil' Gun really heats up my Redhawk, 6 shots leaves the cylinder too hot to touch with bare skin without getting burned.

WESHOOT2 · August 14, 2004, 04:16 AM

I have on the same day same gun(s) same everything except : two separate lots of H110 / three separate lots of W296 tested exact against exact in 357 / 41 / 44 Magnum, and a couple loads in 45 Colt.

My W296 and H110 act differently, lots (oh, I kill myself) differently.

I once read a rumor that in the olden days H110 was W295. Now the rumors I read suggest that different flash and temp inhibitors are different.
I don't actually know anything other than what I've tested...........

But I continuously get better accuracy in my (4) 357's using H110.

bearkiller · August 24, 2004, 04:06 PM

I also use and like H-110. I started at 20.5gr with a 210 XTP and worked up to 22.0gr, all with CCI 350 primers. With 22.0gr H-110 in a ruger blackhawk I get about 1400fps.

For lighter loads I use from 12.0gr blue dot through 13.5gr blue dot with the same primer and bullet mentioned above.

disclaimer: What I load in MY gun may not be safe in YOURS. Use caution.

General_Tso · August 24, 2004, 07:07 PM

Any of the H110 users here notice a lot of accuracy variation depending on how many grains you use? Just curious...

bearkiller · September 2, 2004, 09:10 PM

I think that accuracy is better with more powder in the case (i.e. higher case density).

Of course, a consistant measure and a good scale help!

General_Tso · September 2, 2004, 10:59 PM

i was a little disappointed by my denser load of H110, but I think it was me--not the load itself. I'm a fairly young guy, and I resent my glasses so I left them at home. I have a holosight mounted on my .41 and not having my glasses--although I didn't expect it--seems to have really have made a difference. I'll give it another shot with my glasses and see if the denser loads being more accurate holds true.

August 12, 2004, 01:44 PM	#26
General_Tso Member Join Date: August 14, 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 61	Thanks again for the input. I've been using 21.4 grains of H110 behind a 210 XTP. Seems to be a really nice load. Shoots very well at 25 yards: one raged hole from the rest and not much worse from offhand. I haven't had an opportunity to stretch the range out, but I like how it performs so far. Thanks again for your insights. __________________ --General Tso "Now, you know why they call me 'Dirty Harry': Every dirty job that comes along."

August 14, 2004, 04:16 AM	#28
WESHOOT2 Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 1999 Location: home on the range; Vermont (Caspian country) Posts: 14,324	In My Actual Experience: I have on the same day same gun(s) same everything except : two separate lots of H110 / three separate lots of W296 tested exact against exact in 357 / 41 / 44 Magnum, and a couple loads in 45 Colt. My W296 and H110 act differently, lots (oh, I kill myself) differently. I once read a rumor that in the olden days H110 was W295. Now the rumors I read suggest that different flash and temp inhibitors are different. I don't actually know anything other than what I've tested........... But I continuously get better accuracy in my (4) 357's using H110. __________________ . "all my ammo is mostly retired factory ammo"

August 24, 2004, 07:07 PM	#30
General_Tso Member Join Date: August 14, 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 61	Any of the H110 users here notice a lot of accuracy variation depending on how many grains you use? Just curious... __________________ --General Tso "Now, you know why they call me 'Dirty Harry': Every dirty job that comes along."

September 2, 2004, 10:59 PM	#32
General_Tso Member Join Date: August 14, 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 61	i was a little disappointed by my denser load of H110, but I think it was me--not the load itself. I'm a fairly young guy, and I resent my glasses so I left them at home. I have a holosight mounted on my .41 and not having my glasses--although I didn't expect it--seems to have really have made a difference. I'll give it another shot with my glasses and see if the denser loads being more accurate holds true. __________________ --General Tso "Now, you know why they call me 'Dirty Harry': Every dirty job that comes along."

August 14, 2004, 02:40 AM	#27
Chris McDermott Senior Member Join Date: March 30, 2000 Posts: 245	For full-power loads, the two powders are H110/W296 and Hodgdon's Lil' Gun. Velocities are about the same, as are the amount of powder used, but Lil' Gun sometimes does the same work at much lower pressure levels. Data from Hodgdon's 2004 magazine loading manual: Remington cases and Winchester LP primers; 10" barrel 210 XTP, COL 1.580" start=20.5 grains, 1505 fps; max = 22.5 grains, 1626 fps, 29,900 cup 220 Speer JSP, COL 1.580" start=18.0 grains, 1431 fps; max=20.5 grains, 1563 fps, 31,200 cup I have noticed Lil' Gun really heats up my Redhawk, 6 shots leaves the cylinder too hot to touch with bare skin without getting burned.

August 24, 2004, 04:06 PM	#29
bearkiller Member Join Date: August 12, 2004 Posts: 30	I also use and like H-110. I started at 20.5gr with a 210 XTP and worked up to 22.0gr, all with CCI 350 primers. With 22.0gr H-110 in a ruger blackhawk I get about 1400fps. For lighter loads I use from 12.0gr blue dot through 13.5gr blue dot with the same primer and bullet mentioned above. disclaimer: What I load in MY gun may not be safe in YOURS. Use caution.

September 2, 2004, 09:10 PM	#31
bearkiller Member Join Date: August 12, 2004 Posts: 30	I think that accuracy is better with more powder in the case (i.e. higher case density). Of course, a consistant measure and a good scale help!