"(New PA $25 bounty) on coyotes - Page 2

Rob96 · January 7, 2014, 03:50 AM

Yeah, quite a few more now. In the fall of 2012 I was out for archery in Schnecksville. While it was still dark I just sat there listening to five different coyotes howling. I would say just about every time I go out I see at least one. Called one in with a distress call and have also called one in by accident while out for spring turkey. So much for my turkey calling skills.

Gunplummer · January 7, 2014, 10:31 PM

Wait till you pull a bear in with a turkey call!

imp · January 7, 2014, 10:49 PM

Hmmm...

I may have to get aquainted with this. Atleast it could be a good excuse to get in the woods a little more.

Chestnut Forge · January 9, 2014, 05:15 PM

DCNR put up $700000 for the bounty. That's based on 28000 coyotes killed. I don't think it has passed yet, and from what I've read the PGC is against it.

Rob96 · January 10, 2014, 03:39 AM

The way I read it in our local paper it was a done deal.

Chestnut Forge · January 10, 2014, 07:11 AM

Any details on how to collect? I just need to know what part of the 'yote I need to keep and who to take them to. In Utah its the head or bottom jaw.

kilotanker22 · March 14, 2014, 09:40 AM

That's the first I've heard of it but I unfortunately spend the majority of my time on a gas well pad.

We do have some big ones here though! A few years ago I killed a female coyote that tipped the scales at 62 pounds! I sold it to a taxidermist friend who was looking for a pretty yote. For his shop.

She was healthy too. Next time I see him I will get a picture of the mount and post

Gunplummer · March 15, 2014, 09:03 AM

There you have it. The bill was passed allocating the cash, but nobody is giving it out. Still a rumor until I see where to get the money.

TimSr · March 16, 2014, 05:55 PM

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The fashion designers just need to make coyote fur coats popular.
That would take care of things in a hurry.

You hit the nail on the head there. The collapse of the US fur trade has created overpopulation problems for several species.

mete · March 16, 2014, 08:04 PM

Nice thing about PA and NY coyotes , 20 % have wolf genes, which explains the 70 pounders !!

.45 Vet · March 16, 2014, 10:11 PM

I smell a coyote tag coming up.

My thoughts also. I also don't like the state putting taxpayer money into the game commission.

BoogieMan · March 20, 2014, 09:37 AM

I have a nice plot in Tioga Cnty, less than a mile from NY.. Years ago we had a fair number of hogs and it was very rare to see or hear a yote. Now its hard to sleep some nights with all the yotes, but no pigs at all. Out of 12 guys hunting 260+- acres last year we pulled 2 dear in a week. The question is, if we blast all the yotes back to earlier numbers will it give a chance for pigs to move back?
Either way I will be looking for yotes on the days im on the property. Bounty or not they are killing the hunting. Deer, grouse, turkey are all getting to be a rare sight.

22-rimfire · March 21, 2014, 09:11 PM

Does this mean you can use AR's for coyotes in PA?

stevelyn · March 23, 2014, 01:29 AM

So what's worth more in PA, the coyote hide as prepped and sold to a fur-buyer or the bounty from whacking it?

born2climb · March 23, 2014, 07:55 AM

It is almost funny to think the same group of folks can, with the stroke of their mighty pens, declare an animal "endangered", and thereby protected from human endangerment....or declare the same animal a nuisance, and even pay to have it killed. Oh to imagine a life devoid of politicians....

NCummins · March 24, 2014, 04:13 PM

You'd get more than $25 for the fur. Trapiing is the most effective way to get rid of yotes. Lots of guys catch 50+ a year.

johnwilliamson062 · March 26, 2014, 01:24 AM

Is the bounty exclusive to the pelt or can you collect both?

mquail · March 26, 2014, 06:10 PM

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Another possible negative is in something I have read stated that increased hunting pressure leads to increased breeding. Has anyone else heard that, or confirm that it happens?

I've read a couple of papers that said coyote's response to heavy hunting pressure was to increase litter size.

"Litter size significantly increased in the removal area 2 years after the beginning of exploitation.
However, changes in litter size were confounded by changes in the prey base. Litter size was
significantly related to rabbit abundance, while rodent abundance was less of a factor influencing
reproductive effort. Accounting for both changes in prey abundance and coyote density, litter
size was significantly related to total prey abundance/coyote. With increasing prey and reduced
coyote density, mean litter size doubled in the removal area compared to pre-removal levels" http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/vi...dm_wdmconfproc

Cowboy_mo · March 26, 2014, 08:41 PM

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With increasing prey and reduced
coyote density, mean litter size doubled in the removal area compared to pre-removal levels"

In reading the paper, it sounded like they studied and area that was hunted hard and then hunting was stopped. Then they observed the return of more coyotes. I also noted from the paper that the increased litter size was linked to an increase in the rabbit population following the removal of the coyotes.

Based on their findings, I suggest that as PA hunters begin lowering the coyote population, they should also increase their rabbit hunting. This will keep both the rabbit and coyote populations in check.

BoogieMan · March 27, 2014, 07:45 AM

I havent seen a rabbit on my piece of ground in at least 20 years. But, we have plenty of coyotes. Its not just rabbit. Grouse, turkey, fawn, etc...

January 9, 2014, 05:15 PM	#29
Chestnut Forge Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 2013 Location: Polk, Pa Posts: 123	DCNR put up $700000 for the bounty. That's based on 28000 coyotes killed. I don't think it has passed yet, and from what I've read the PGC is against it. __________________ Every gun I've been behind can out shoot me.

January 10, 2014, 07:11 AM	#31
Chestnut Forge Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 2013 Location: Polk, Pa Posts: 123	Any details on how to collect? I just need to know what part of the 'yote I need to keep and who to take them to. In Utah its the head or bottom jaw. __________________ Every gun I've been behind can out shoot me.

March 16, 2014, 08:04 PM	#35
mete Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 6,575	Nice thing about PA and NY coyotes , 20 % have wolf genes, which explains the 70 pounders !! __________________ And Watson , bring your revolver !

March 16, 2014, 10:11 PM	#36
.45 Vet Senior Member Join Date: May 21, 2004 Location: Western Penn. Posts: 387	I smell a coyote tag coming up. My thoughts also. I also don't like the state putting taxpayer money into the game commission. __________________ For those who've never fought for it, the price of freedom shall never be known...

March 20, 2014, 09:37 AM	#37
BoogieMan Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2012 Location: South Jersey Posts: 2,217	I have a nice plot in Tioga Cnty, less than a mile from NY.. Years ago we had a fair number of hogs and it was very rare to see or hear a yote. Now its hard to sleep some nights with all the yotes, but no pigs at all. Out of 12 guys hunting 260+- acres last year we pulled 2 dear in a week. The question is, if we blast all the yotes back to earlier numbers will it give a chance for pigs to move back? Either way I will be looking for yotes on the days im on the property. Bounty or not they are killing the hunting. Deer, grouse, turkey are all getting to be a rare sight. __________________ Concentrated power is not rendered harmless by the good intentions of those who create it. Milton Freidman "If you find yourself in a fair fight,,, Your tactics suck"- Unknown

January 7, 2014, 03:50 AM	#26
Rob96 Senior Member Join Date: August 31, 1999 Location: Allentown,PA Posts: 1,969	Yeah, quite a few more now. In the fall of 2012 I was out for archery in Schnecksville. While it was still dark I just sat there listening to five different coyotes howling. I would say just about every time I go out I see at least one. Called one in with a distress call and have also called one in by accident while out for spring turkey. So much for my turkey calling skills.

January 7, 2014, 10:31 PM	#27
Gunplummer Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2010 Location: South East Pa. Posts: 3,364	Wait till you pull a bear in with a turkey call!

January 7, 2014, 10:49 PM	#28
imp Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 2006 Posts: 626	Hmmm... I may have to get aquainted with this. Atleast it could be a good excuse to get in the woods a little more.

January 10, 2014, 03:39 AM	#30
Rob96 Senior Member Join Date: August 31, 1999 Location: Allentown,PA Posts: 1,969	The way I read it in our local paper it was a done deal.

March 14, 2014, 09:40 AM	#32
kilotanker22 Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2012 Location: North Central, PA Posts: 2,117	That's the first I've heard of it but I unfortunately spend the majority of my time on a gas well pad. We do have some big ones here though! A few years ago I killed a female coyote that tipped the scales at 62 pounds! I sold it to a taxidermist friend who was looking for a pretty yote. For his shop. She was healthy too. Next time I see him I will get a picture of the mount and post

March 15, 2014, 09:03 AM	#33
Gunplummer Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2010 Location: South East Pa. Posts: 3,364	There you have it. The bill was passed allocating the cash, but nobody is giving it out. Still a rumor until I see where to get the money.

March 21, 2014, 09:11 PM	#38
22-rimfire Senior Member Join Date: February 19, 2005 Location: Tennessee Posts: 5,323	Does this mean you can use AR's for coyotes in PA?

March 23, 2014, 01:29 AM	#39
stevelyn Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2004 Location: Fairbanksan in exile to Aleutian Hell Posts: 2,655	So what's worth more in PA, the coyote hide as prepped and sold to a fur-buyer or the bounty from whacking it? __________________ Stop Allowing Our Schools To Be Soft Targets! http://fastersaveslives.org/ East Moose. Wear Wolf.

March 23, 2014, 07:55 AM	#40
born2climb Senior Member Join Date: January 17, 2013 Posts: 140	It is almost funny to think the same group of folks can, with the stroke of their mighty pens, declare an animal "endangered", and thereby protected from human endangerment....or declare the same animal a nuisance, and even pay to have it killed. Oh to imagine a life devoid of politicians.... __________________ Don't invest in idiots....the market's flooded!!!

March 24, 2014, 04:13 PM	#41
NCummins Member Join Date: February 9, 2014 Posts: 92	You'd get more than $25 for the fur. Trapiing is the most effective way to get rid of yotes. Lots of guys catch 50+ a year.

March 26, 2014, 01:24 AM	#42
johnwilliamson062 Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 9,995	Is the bounty exclusive to the pelt or can you collect both?

March 27, 2014, 07:45 AM	#45
BoogieMan Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2012 Location: South Jersey Posts: 2,217	I havent seen a rabbit on my piece of ground in at least 20 years. But, we have plenty of coyotes. Its not just rabbit. Grouse, turkey, fawn, etc... __________________ Concentrated power is not rendered harmless by the good intentions of those who create it. Milton Freidman "If you find yourself in a fair fight,,, Your tactics suck"- Unknown