The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > The North Corral > Lock and Load: Live Fire Exercises

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old April 19, 2021, 10:31 AM   #1
GarandTd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 15, 2016
Location: Rural PA
Posts: 1,629
1st Project Appleseed

I completed my 1st Project Appleseed this past weekend. I have been interested in the program for several years. This year many things came together at the right time allowing me to participate. It was a very humbling, but rewarding experience.

I recently assembled a dedicated 22lr upper receiver to pair with my Anderson/Magpul/PSA lower. This is what I chose to use for the event. The couple of failures I experienced throughout the weekend were my own, not the rifle or ammunition I chose. My rifle presented some challenges during the timed, multi magazine stages of the AQT, but through the course of the weekend, I was able to adapt.

I started out the weekend with iron sights. Unfortunately, my eyesight has deteriorated quite a bit in the last couple of years. After some careful consideration, I added my 4x32 Simmons later Sunday morning. It made a huge difference. The slowest part of the qualifier was giving me the biggest problems. I was losing sight of the smallest targets while focusing on the front sight post. It's hard to put rounds on a target you can't see.

By the end of Sunday, I qualified for my Rifleman's badge with a score of 212. I also earned a 2nd badge for clearing the "Redcoat" target.

I thought I was a pretty good shot before. I knew I could be much better. Appleseed gave me the tools and and a foundation to build upon. Money well spent.

Do any of you care to share your experiences?
__________________
22lr, 20 gauge, 8mm Mauser, 35 Remington, 30-06, 5.56x45/223, 9mm, 380acp

Last edited by GarandTd; April 19, 2021 at 12:44 PM.
GarandTd is offline  
Old April 19, 2021, 10:57 AM   #2
ghbucky
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 12, 2020
Posts: 929
I appreciate you sharing your experience. I've been wanting to do one, but there's always something in the way.
ghbucky is offline  
Old April 19, 2021, 12:49 PM   #3
GarandTd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 15, 2016
Location: Rural PA
Posts: 1,629
I can relate to things getting in the way.

The weekend was physically demanding. I slept like a baby both nights. You spend the weekend learning and practicing shooting positions from standing to seated to prone repeatedly. I'm in good shape and I'm not too sore today, but the up and down wasn't easy.
__________________
22lr, 20 gauge, 8mm Mauser, 35 Remington, 30-06, 5.56x45/223, 9mm, 380acp
GarandTd is offline  
Old April 20, 2021, 12:01 AM   #4
idek
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 20, 2009
Posts: 895
I did one several years ago. It was during another ammo shortage (after Sandy Hook maybe?), so I only did the first of two days.

I used a 10/22 with Tech-Sights. I did not achieve the rifleman score, but the experience helped improve my shooting. I'd never had ANY kind of shooting instruction before (aside from firearms safety class as a kid).

I've been tempted to go again when I can do both days, but something always keeps that from happening. I would likely use a low-powered scope next time. My eyes aren't bad overall, but I had a rare condition years ago that caused a small distortion in my dominant eye. It gives iron sights a slight bend... doesn't seem to matter as much with scopes.
idek is offline  
Old April 20, 2021, 09:48 AM   #5
GarandTd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 15, 2016
Location: Rural PA
Posts: 1,629
Here was my qualifying target. A fair amount of room for improvement there, but it was enough for the Rifleman badge.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg rps20210420_104858_848.jpg (127.5 KB, 48 views)
__________________
22lr, 20 gauge, 8mm Mauser, 35 Remington, 30-06, 5.56x45/223, 9mm, 380acp
GarandTd is offline  
Old April 20, 2021, 09:51 AM   #6
GarandTd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 15, 2016
Location: Rural PA
Posts: 1,629
Here was my Redcoat target. It was my best shooting of the weekend.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg rps20210420_105100_255.jpg (82.2 KB, 40 views)
__________________
22lr, 20 gauge, 8mm Mauser, 35 Remington, 30-06, 5.56x45/223, 9mm, 380acp

Last edited by GarandTd; April 20, 2021 at 06:17 PM. Reason: Spelling error
GarandTd is offline  
Old April 20, 2021, 05:44 PM   #7
Mike38
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 28, 2009
Location: North Central Illinois
Posts: 2,566
My Son and I attended an Appleseed about 8 years ago. We both enjoyed it very much. Learned a lot. I made Rifleman early on the second day. Only two of us on the line made it that weekend. My Son came within a couple points, but didn't quite get there. I'd like to try again, maybe even this year.
Mike38 is offline  
Old April 20, 2021, 06:22 PM   #8
GarandTd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 15, 2016
Location: Rural PA
Posts: 1,629
It took me til the bitter end to make Rifleman. There were only 3 of us. 1 of the other guys made it earlier. At one point, he and I accidentally shot at each other's targets messing up each other's scores.
__________________
22lr, 20 gauge, 8mm Mauser, 35 Remington, 30-06, 5.56x45/223, 9mm, 380acp
GarandTd is offline  
Old May 20, 2021, 09:49 AM   #9
Adventurer 2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 5, 2006
Posts: 594
Good Job on badging out. I have always wanted to attend one of these events (more so for my girlfriend as i think she would take the instruction differently when it isn't from me). Did everyone fire 22LR? Is it okay to use a 22 WMR?
Adventurer 2 is offline  
Old May 20, 2021, 04:39 PM   #10
GarandTd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 15, 2016
Location: Rural PA
Posts: 1,629
Thanks Adventurer 2! I had been wanting to attend one of these events for about 5 years. I envisioned enjoying it with my kids, but they just aren't interested...yet. hopefully they come around while my blood still flows warm.

Caliber permitted depends on the particular range that is hosting the event. In my case, I could have used just about anything. At my event, the shoot boss brought several air rifles and his helper shot a memorial volley fire with a centerfire AR-15. The participants, myself included, all used 22lr. The group was small at my event and the other 2 guys were shooting Ruger 10-22's.
__________________
22lr, 20 gauge, 8mm Mauser, 35 Remington, 30-06, 5.56x45/223, 9mm, 380acp
GarandTd is offline  
Old May 20, 2021, 04:51 PM   #11
GarandTd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 15, 2016
Location: Rural PA
Posts: 1,629
Keep in mind, that the weekend event can take 3-500+ rounds of ammunition. I think that's why alot of folks choose 22lr for the event. It's just more cost effective and you're shooting at something like 27 meters with scaled down targets to represent farther ranges.
__________________
22lr, 20 gauge, 8mm Mauser, 35 Remington, 30-06, 5.56x45/223, 9mm, 380acp
GarandTd is offline  
Old May 24, 2021, 07:55 AM   #12
Adventurer 2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 5, 2006
Posts: 594
I asked about the 22 WMR as i would let two other people use my two 22LRs rifles. Maybe i load up 500 rounds of 38 Special semi-wadcutters and bring my Ruger 77/357?
Hmm - which would you bring? A bolt action 22 WMR or a bolt action 77/357?
I only own one shooting mat, which i will let someone else use. I do have some camping mats (better than nothing).
Adventurer 2 is offline  
Old May 24, 2021, 04:57 PM   #13
GarandTd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 15, 2016
Location: Rural PA
Posts: 1,629
I used an old foam yoga mat. Like you said, better than nothing. As far as which bolt rifle, that's your call. I don't have any experience with 22wmr and only a tiny bit of 38/357 out of a revolver. Using a bolt action will be more of a challenge, so I would take whichever rifle I could operate the bolt quicker with. Time works against you. Even with my semi, I failed to fire all my rounds more than once.
__________________
22lr, 20 gauge, 8mm Mauser, 35 Remington, 30-06, 5.56x45/223, 9mm, 380acp
GarandTd is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:50 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2021 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Page generated in 0.05979 seconds with 11 queries