The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > The Hide > The Dave McCracken Memorial Shotgun Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old January 1, 2016, 05:13 PM   #1
Echolmes
Member
 
Join Date: July 12, 2015
Location: Waynesboro Va
Posts: 24
New mossberg 500

I just purchased a mossberg 500 brand new and it seems to be having trouble pulling shells out of the tube. I've heard to need to be a little forceful sometimes to make it pull them out but even that doesn't work all the time. Any ideas as to why this is happening?

Also I can't get the tube to screw away from the breach. I know they use loctite from the factory but are there any tricks to removing it.
Echolmes is offline  
Old January 1, 2016, 05:50 PM   #2
FITASC
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 6, 2014
Posts: 5,196
Loctite? On what? The choke tube? No, they don't.

Did you give it a thorough cleaning before using? Are you using the cheapest crap from walmart for ammo?
Are you talking about getting the empties to eject from the barrel or getting new ammo to be released from the magazine tube to go into the chamber?
__________________
"I believe that people have a right to decide their own destinies; people own themselves. I also believe that, in a democracy, government exists because (and only so long as) individual citizens give it a 'temporary license to exist'—in exchange for a promise that it will behave itself. In a democracy, you own the government—it doesn't own you."- Frank Zappa
FITASC is offline  
Old January 1, 2016, 06:14 PM   #3
Echolmes
Member
 
Join Date: July 12, 2015
Location: Waynesboro Va
Posts: 24
Cheap ammo shouldn't matter as far as the gun pulling a shell from the feeding tube and puttin it into the barrel but I've shot several different brands and it's happened with all of them. I know the chokes aren't but the feeding tube won't unthread from the gun.
Echolmes is offline  
Old January 1, 2016, 06:18 PM   #4
SC4006
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 27, 2012
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 524
If you're talking about extracting spent shells from the chamber, then it very well could be crap ammo as FITASC said. I recently bought a mossberg 590 which I believe has many similarities with the 500, and I had a lot of trouble with Winchester birdshot target loads being very difficult to extract after firing. My 590 has shot everything else just fine so I've come to the conclusion that cheap Winchester shells are just junk.
__________________
I don't always go to the range, but when I do, I prefer dosAKs.

They say 5 out of 4 people are bad at math.
SC4006 is offline  
Old January 1, 2016, 06:25 PM   #5
FITASC
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 6, 2014
Posts: 5,196
OK, narrowing it down. The "feeding tube" is the magazine. Have you cleaned the gun? (and especially the mag tube?) Sounds like there might be something that is preventing the shell from being released.
__________________
"I believe that people have a right to decide their own destinies; people own themselves. I also believe that, in a democracy, government exists because (and only so long as) individual citizens give it a 'temporary license to exist'—in exchange for a promise that it will behave itself. In a democracy, you own the government—it doesn't own you."- Frank Zappa
FITASC is offline  
Old January 1, 2016, 06:32 PM   #6
Echolmes
Member
 
Join Date: July 12, 2015
Location: Waynesboro Va
Posts: 24
It has no trouble extracting from the chamber only from the magazine and I have cleaned it but it did it the first time I shot it right out of the box. The magazine is also what I'm having trouble gettin off the gun. I want to pull the rod out that limits the amount of shells it'll hold.
Echolmes is offline  
Old January 1, 2016, 07:05 PM   #7
g.willikers
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 28, 2008
Posts: 10,447
The best place to apply torque to unwind the mag tube is at the front end, where the barrel attaches.
It's the thickest and most substantial part, the rest of the tube is thin and can be damaged.
They usually come loose using a large padded vice grip at that end with reasonable effort.
__________________
Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez:
“Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.”
g.willikers is offline  
Old January 1, 2016, 07:27 PM   #8
Echolmes
Member
 
Join Date: July 12, 2015
Location: Waynesboro Va
Posts: 24
Ok thanks for the help guys. Hopefully once it gets a little more broken in the shells will feed a little easier
Echolmes is offline  
Old January 1, 2016, 08:19 PM   #9
amd6547
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2,209
I've never needed to take off the mag tube to get the limiter off.
It's usually a dowel of wood that comes out through the hole at the front of the tube the barrel screws in to.
__________________
The past is gone...the future may never happen.
Be Here Now.
amd6547 is offline  
Old January 1, 2016, 09:37 PM   #10
Echolmes
Member
 
Join Date: July 12, 2015
Location: Waynesboro Va
Posts: 24
the barrel is held on by a bolt on mine it's not a cap like some others I've seen. That's why I have to remove the whole tube the take out the dowel
Attached Images
File Type: jpeg image.jpeg (207.5 KB, 32 views)
Echolmes is offline  
Old January 1, 2016, 11:24 PM   #11
mman
Junior Member
 
Join Date: January 24, 2015
Posts: 6
The dowel will come out of that bolt hole if you shake it enough.
mman is offline  
Old January 2, 2016, 12:04 AM   #12
Echolmes
Member
 
Join Date: July 12, 2015
Location: Waynesboro Va
Posts: 24
Well now I feel like an idiot haha. Thanks for the help
Echolmes is offline  
Old January 2, 2016, 01:58 AM   #13
Blindstitch
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 14, 2013
Location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Posts: 2,532
Barrel down and shake. The easiest plug to install and remove.
Blindstitch is offline  
Old January 2, 2016, 10:30 AM   #14
g.willikers
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 28, 2008
Posts: 10,447
You will still want to occasionally remove the mag tube for cleaning and lubing purposes.
The inside surface, spring and follower can all get mighty grimy.
__________________
Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez:
“Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.”

Last edited by g.willikers; January 2, 2016 at 10:36 AM.
g.willikers is offline  
Old January 2, 2016, 04:45 PM   #15
FITASC
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 6, 2014
Posts: 5,196
And just a tad bit of moisture and you get rust on the inside
__________________
"I believe that people have a right to decide their own destinies; people own themselves. I also believe that, in a democracy, government exists because (and only so long as) individual citizens give it a 'temporary license to exist'—in exchange for a promise that it will behave itself. In a democracy, you own the government—it doesn't own you."- Frank Zappa
FITASC is offline  
Old January 2, 2016, 06:56 PM   #16
amd6547
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2,209
When I pulled my beat up Mossberg 500 out of a pile of security company riot guns (literally a pile 3 guns deep) at the gunshow and paid $75 for it, I'm sure it had a rough life, many rounds, and little maintainence.

It didn't get much from me but but lots of shooting.

When I did finally remove the mag tube, it was actually pretty clean inside.

My 500 has been in a few configurations...folder, PGO, wood stock, and now, a 12"lop Hogue Buttstock and their forend. I really like the grip of the Hogue forend.
__________________
The past is gone...the future may never happen.
Be Here Now.
amd6547 is offline  
Old February 13, 2016, 06:42 PM   #17
Orion6
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 26, 2004
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 340
Here's a tip for the hard to feed mag tube -

The shell stop can sometimes be bent or a little out of spec. It's one of the two pieces that come out when you take out the trigger group. I had to bend/tweak mine just a little and now it's good to go. A little trial and error should get you where you want to be.

It doesn't take much. Don't overdo it. But I'd bet you a dollar that's the issue.
Orion6 is offline  
Old February 14, 2016, 07:01 PM   #18
Economist
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 22, 2014
Posts: 163
My mag tube spring actually siezed up from rust one day at the trap range. It turned my gun into a single-shot for the rest of the line. It was an easy fix, though, I just had to unscrew the mag tube and spray a bunch of rem oil in there to get the dpeing moving again.
Now I will never neglect the inside of the mag tube when I am cleaning.
Economist is offline  
Old February 15, 2016, 09:38 AM   #19
njr
Junior Member
 
Join Date: December 30, 2014
Posts: 5
FYI I just switched my 500 from 20 to 18 inch barrel and magazine. Mossberg dues indeed loctite the threads on the end of magazine. If you'd like to clean it, switch the spring etc. you need to field strip the receiver especially removing plastic parts then GENTLY heat the threaded portion of the magazine for a few minutes to loosen the loctite.

The trickiest parts are putting the bolt and bolt carrier back together and screwing mag, spring and follower back into the receiver.

Opinions on whether you should loctite the threads on the mag are mixed but one gunsmith online did recommend it and I did notice that the mag had worked itself a little loose through recoil after firing 12 rounds of buckshot the other day. The rational is that the loctite also fills in the gaps between the mag tube threads and the grooves in the receiver, preventing the tube from working out or warping etc.

I would give the loctite 24 hours to cure.

Instructionals for the above are available on YouTube.
njr is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:00 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2018 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Contact Us
Page generated in 0.07253 seconds with 9 queries