question on reloading .40 s&w

michael88997 · September 12, 2011, 12:11 PM

hey guys my family and I and got into shooting pistols and due to the cost of .40 i was thinking about reloading myself and just for a hobby.

before i attempt it I will read up and make sure i do everything correctly.

engineermike · September 12, 2011, 12:29 PM

I found this calculator on the forum maybe it will help.

http://www.handloads.com/calc/loadingCosts.asp

michael88997 · September 12, 2011, 12:31 PM

well im fine with the calculations my question is where can i get 1000 rd of jhp for 60 bucks? i know fmj is that cheap but the cheapest jhp i found was 25 for 100

Swing Fixer · September 12, 2011, 12:34 PM

there are probably less expensive places but I was quickly able to find that bass proshop has a box of 100 Hornady XTP JHP for $23/100.

http://www.basspro.com/Hornady-XTP-P...SELL_THUMBNAIL

I go there or a local gun shop (Carter Country) here in Houston only because I like going and picking up components the day I want them. I'm impatient when it comes to shipping LOL!

Also, make sure you are looking for .40cal/10mm. They are the same bullet and many brands have them listed just as 10mm. This threw me for a loop when I started reloading the .40S&W.

Make sure you look up fixes for "Glocked up" brass. If you pick brass at a range that was fired thru a glock, it will likely have a buldge in it where some glock .40cal chambers aren't fully supported. Buy a Lee Buldge buster kit to help fix this. I run my .40cal brass thru this and then go thru normal reloading procedure. Have two .40cal glocks so all my brass potentially has this issue.

overkill0084 · September 12, 2011, 12:38 PM

https://secure.mooseweb.com/montanag.../pricelist.tpl
http://www.precisiondelta.com/product.php
Ask the range management if Plated bullets are permitted. There are a number of factory loads (UMC) using plated bullets so it's not like it would be unheard of. If so that opens a few more options. (Berry's & Rainier, among others...)

michael88997 · September 12, 2011, 12:38 PM

so using the xtp how much would you say a box of 100 is all said and done for you?

Shootest · September 12, 2011, 12:43 PM

If my range only allowed JHP I would find a new range. Are you sure they do not allow plated bullets? Usually ranges want to reduce airborne lead and plated will do that.

michael88997 · September 12, 2011, 12:48 PM

ok well nvm, i just called and they allow fmj, they dont allow rifle fmj so i was told wrong... in that case it should be quite a bit cheaper..

can someone lead me in the right direction for some reading or videos on what proper techniques and the equipment i would need?

Shootest · September 12, 2011, 12:55 PM

The Lyman reloading handbook is a must have IMHO.

overkill0084 · September 12, 2011, 01:01 PM

one starting point:
http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=230171
Get "The ABC's Of reloading" and perhaps the Lyman 49th edition reloading manual.

michael88997 · September 12, 2011, 03:25 PM

before i take the time and effort to learn all of this and purchase all the equipment, would this setup be good for cheap target practice shells?

http://www.precisiondelta.com/detail...u=B-40-165-FMJ

http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm...1&src=googleps

primers around 30 bucks per 1000, havent read which is best to use yet.

i can get brass locally for very cheap...

with this setup it comes to under 10 for a box of 50, is that reasonable?

once again before i order or touch anything i will read several books i just want to get an idea of cost savings before i choose to start or not. thanks

serf 'rett · September 12, 2011, 05:23 PM

Couple of notes. You may want to check local gun stores for powder and primer if you are looking to start with 1 pound of powder or 1000 primers. The Hazmat shipping charges (generally $25 or more) will eat your lunch for a small order of either. If you can order a larger quanity, you may want to check Powder Valley, Inc.

http://www.powdervalleyinc.com/

While I use W231, Power Pistol and Unique for my 40S&W, I will mention that you may also consider Power Pistol or Unique which will fill more of the cartridge case. The larger amount of these two powders will overfill a case if you accidently double charge. Powder pouring onto your bench quickly lets you know there's a problem. I've found that Unique doesn't meter as well as Power Pistol and W231 through my meter.

michael88997 · September 12, 2011, 05:25 PM

thanks ya i had planned to get the powder and charges locally but i mainly wanted to make sure my prices were correct and keep the price below 10 per 50 without using lead rounds

excelerater · September 12, 2011, 05:50 PM

why would your range only want JHP ?
Thats weird FMJ is not even an issue

michael88997 · September 12, 2011, 05:51 PM

they dont allow fmj rifle rounds, but i was told it applied to pistol which I cleared up

September 12, 2011, 12:11 PM	#1
michael88997 Junior Member Join Date: September 12, 2011 Posts: 7	question on reloading .40 s&w hey guys my family and I and got into shooting pistols and due to the cost of .40 i was thinking about reloading myself and just for a hobby. before i attempt it I will read up and make sure i do everything correctly. Last edited by michael88997; September 12, 2011 at 06:17 PM.

September 12, 2011, 12:38 PM	#5
overkill0084 Senior Member Join Date: August 7, 2010 Location: Northern, UT Posts: 1,162	https://secure.mooseweb.com/montanag.../pricelist.tpl http://www.precisiondelta.com/product.php Ask the range management if Plated bullets are permitted. There are a number of factory loads (UMC) using plated bullets so it's not like it would be unheard of. If so that opens a few more options. (Berry's & Rainier, among others...) __________________ Cheers, Greg “At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child – miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats.” — P.J. O’Rourke

September 12, 2011, 12:43 PM	#7
Shootest Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2011 Location: Just outside Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 722	If my range only allowed JHP I would find a new range. Are you sure they do not allow plated bullets? Usually ranges want to reduce airborne lead and plated will do that. __________________ The private ownership of firearms is an American Heritage. Anyone who disputes that is Anti-American and unpatriotic. NRA Life Member

September 12, 2011, 12:48 PM	#8
michael88997 Junior Member Join Date: September 12, 2011 Posts: 7	ok well nvm, i just called and they allow fmj, they dont allow rifle fmj so i was told wrong... in that case it should be quite a bit cheaper.. can someone lead me in the right direction for some reading or videos on what proper techniques and the equipment i would need? Last edited by michael88997; September 12, 2011 at 12:55 PM.

September 12, 2011, 12:55 PM	#9
Shootest Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2011 Location: Just outside Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 722	The Lyman reloading handbook is a must have IMHO. __________________ The private ownership of firearms is an American Heritage. Anyone who disputes that is Anti-American and unpatriotic. NRA Life Member

September 12, 2011, 12:29 PM	#2
engineermike Junior member Join Date: March 14, 2010 Location: Oklahaoma City Posts: 538	I found this calculator on the forum maybe it will help. http://www.handloads.com/calc/loadingCosts.asp

September 12, 2011, 12:31 PM	#3
michael88997 Junior Member Join Date: September 12, 2011 Posts: 7	well im fine with the calculations my question is where can i get 1000 rd of jhp for 60 bucks? i know fmj is that cheap but the cheapest jhp i found was 25 for 100

September 12, 2011, 12:34 PM	#4
Swing Fixer Junior Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Posts: 9	there are probably less expensive places but I was quickly able to find that bass proshop has a box of 100 Hornady XTP JHP for $23/100. http://www.basspro.com/Hornady-XTP-P...SELL_THUMBNAIL I go there or a local gun shop (Carter Country) here in Houston only because I like going and picking up components the day I want them. I'm impatient when it comes to shipping LOL! Also, make sure you are looking for .40cal/10mm. They are the same bullet and many brands have them listed just as 10mm. This threw me for a loop when I started reloading the .40S&W. Make sure you look up fixes for "Glocked up" brass. If you pick brass at a range that was fired thru a glock, it will likely have a buldge in it where some glock .40cal chambers aren't fully supported. Buy a Lee Buldge buster kit to help fix this. I run my .40cal brass thru this and then go thru normal reloading procedure. Have two .40cal glocks so all my brass potentially has this issue.

September 12, 2011, 01:01 PM	#10
overkill0084 Senior Member Join Date: August 7, 2010 Location: Northern, UT Posts: 1,162	one starting point: http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=230171 Get "The ABC's Of reloading" and perhaps the Lyman 49th edition reloading manual. __________________ Cheers, Greg “At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child – miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats.” — P.J. O’Rourke

September 12, 2011, 03:25 PM	#11
michael88997 Junior Member Join Date: September 12, 2011 Posts: 7	before i take the time and effort to learn all of this and purchase all the equipment, would this setup be good for cheap target practice shells? http://www.precisiondelta.com/detail...u=B-40-165-FMJ http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm...1&src=googleps primers around 30 bucks per 1000, havent read which is best to use yet. i can get brass locally for very cheap... with this setup it comes to under 10 for a box of 50, is that reasonable? once again before i order or touch anything i will read several books i just want to get an idea of cost savings before i choose to start or not. thanks

September 12, 2011, 05:23 PM	#12
serf 'rett Senior Member Join Date: June 25, 2009 Location: Stuttgart, AR Posts: 1,569	Couple of notes. You may want to check local gun stores for powder and primer if you are looking to start with 1 pound of powder or 1000 primers. The Hazmat shipping charges (generally $25 or more) will eat your lunch for a small order of either. If you can order a larger quanity, you may want to check Powder Valley, Inc. http://www.powdervalleyinc.com/ While I use W231, Power Pistol and Unique for my 40S&W, I will mention that you may also consider Power Pistol or Unique which will fill more of the cartridge case. The larger amount of these two powders will overfill a case if you accidently double charge. Powder pouring onto your bench quickly lets you know there's a problem. I've found that Unique doesn't meter as well as Power Pistol and W231 through my meter. __________________ A lack of planning on your part does not necessarily constitute an emergency on my part.

September 12, 2011, 05:25 PM	#13
michael88997 Junior Member Join Date: September 12, 2011 Posts: 7	thanks ya i had planned to get the powder and charges locally but i mainly wanted to make sure my prices were correct and keep the price below 10 per 50 without using lead rounds

September 12, 2011, 05:50 PM	#14
excelerater Junior member Join Date: June 27, 2011 Location: Memphis TN Posts: 694	why would your range only want JHP ? Thats weird FMJ is not even an issue

September 12, 2011, 05:51 PM	#15
michael88997 Junior Member Join Date: September 12, 2011 Posts: 7	they dont allow fmj rifle rounds, but i was told it applied to pistol which I cleared up