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A 45-70 Guide gun out to 1000 yds.
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Impressive!
Check out the angle when he fires, a bit of a rainbow, no?
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Push a .45 caliber rifle bullet (say 400gr) at 1900fps at the muzzle and sight it dead on for 100yds.
Drop of that bullet at 500 yards will be in the neighborhood of 17 FEET. (and the velocity will be somewhere around 900fps) What do you think it is at 1,000yds? My tables don't go that far....
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I'm more impressed by his spotter wife--where can I get one of those?
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Hard holding for sure.
Good performance for light bullets in a short barrel. Don't get all hepped up over "drop." They all drop, some more than others. If you want to get out of the stunt category, you will have sights with enough adjustment for the job. |
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Great shooting! It left some pretty good divots in that plate.
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When that "drop" is spread out over a thousand yards, it is not a whole lot in scale.
Dan Theodore set up two paper targets spaced apart on the same point at 1000 yards. He measured the "drop" over six feet and calculated that the bullets were coming in at an angle of 4.5 degrees. Hardly a "rainbow." As I recall, the rifle was a .45 x 2 7/8" and a 540 grain "Money" bullet. |
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long range
Read an article recently where known author/shooter was trying to replicate a long shot with big bore cartridge rifle like the Adobe Walls fight. Erected a target composed of two 4x8" sheets of plywood in an "+" pattern if I recall correctly. Two experienced shootered blazed away at distance approaching a mile. VERY low percentage of hits, conclusion:
one luck shot or one unlucky Indian |
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The thing is, that drop, for a given bullet, speed, and range is going to be a constant. Unlike the wind, which can vary multiple times in direction and speed when shooting over a long distance.
back in the late 1800s, long range target shooters were hitting at 1,000yds with .45-70s. Specially set up sights and some other things, but its not impossible. Now, here's a question, how many ranging/practice shots do you think they did, that aren't on the video???
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There was a party of hostiles on that bluff and he just shot at the bunch. On the other hand, Jack Bean picked and hit his man, ca 1200 yards. He cheated, he had a telescopic sight on his Sharps. But by the end of production, Sharps was including factory installed scopes on 25% of their rifles. |
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Once you figure out how much barrel to use as a front sight it gets easier.
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I shoot a Sharps out to 600 yds and the impact report delay just makes you giggle (as compared to an instant traditional supersonic caliber at short range).
Listen for the looooooooooong delay in this shot : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st4qE02GEKo&t=106s
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I expected him to be holding the rifle at a much higher angle, to me it didn’t look that extreme.
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I dont believe any shooting exhibitions done from those two
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The history of long range shooting matches is well documented here....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern...%20that%20time). |
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The long range Creedmoor tang sights have a tall staff for good reasons.
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I was wondering the same thing, I like the guy's videos, some are a bit showy but I've learned from them.
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