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July 21, 2022, 12:00 AM | #26 |
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I like my Lyman universal trimmer . No special shell holders needed , all cases seem to fit just fine . If you know how the RCBS universal priming tool holds cases , the Lyman trimmer is similar but has a second quick adjustment base to lock the case in tight . I'll add that ( at least for me ) the Lyman locks the cases in tight enough to not need the pilots which is good when trimming several thousandths off a neck because the shavings get caught/stuck between the pilot and inside case mouth , making it hard to remove or scratch the insides of the necks .
Do you guys have a link or a pic of the Lee trimmer you all are talking about ? I used a Lee trimmer when I first started and it worked ok at best . My Lyman is light years better so maybe I was using something different .
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July 28, 2022, 11:07 PM | #27 |
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Sorting the brass first will be helpful. I always start with new brass of the same headstamp. After it's been shot and reloaded however many times, I am measuring the case length with calipers to find a length that no more than 1/3 of my cases are shorter than. Cases shorter than my spec, go into the short bucket. Cases that are between my spec and 0.002" over don't get trimmed. They go into the ready-to-expand bucket. Cases that are more than 0.002" over my spec go into the trim bucket. My trim bucket usually ends up with less than 1/3 the total volume of cases.
If trimming case mouths to be uniform in the crimp, it is equally important that they be of consistent length and that they be square. Trimmers that won't trim the case mouth square aren't adding anything but brass chips to your bench. I use a Wilson trimmer with the Q-type case holder. Brass can be trimmed after it's fire-formed in the chamber, or after resizing. I trim my handgun brass after it's been resized but before the case mouth is expanded. Shooting and resizing rifle brass tends to lengthen it. Shooting and resizing handgun brass tends not to change it much or to shorten it after many reloadings. Eventually, I'll have a lot of brass in the short bucket and I'll reset my spec to three or four thou shorter than what I'm using now and I'll be using all that brass again. |
July 29, 2022, 11:44 AM | #28 |
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You guys trim revolver brass ?
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July 29, 2022, 05:20 PM | #29 |
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A lot of folks do it once to get their case lengths, and therefore the amount of crimp from a fixed crimp die position, consistent. But once done, I've never had to repeat it before mouth splits started retiring the brass.
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July 29, 2022, 05:41 PM | #30 |
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Have experienced revolver cases getting longer in levers when using full power loads. Especially after several firings. One time i mixed them altogether, but trimmed them to match the length of cases fired in the revolvers so crimp would be consistent. Same batch of brass. If possible, easier to keep the brass segregated.
If i was mixing several brands of fired brass, especially range pick ups, would check some for length, and consider trimming them depending on purpose. |
July 29, 2022, 07:48 PM | #31 |
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trimmer
I have an ancient RCBS hand trimmer that I converted to electric using an electric drill.
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August 3, 2022, 11:01 PM | #32 |
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In over 50 years of reloading I have never trimmed any pistol/revolver brass.
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August 5, 2022, 11:09 AM | #33 | |
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I've never really paid attention to how many in lets say a 1k ct lot actually needs to be trimmed but off the top of my head I'd say more then 20% less the 40% . This is putting them back to trim to length and not to say because I trimmed "some" brass off they were to long to work . Only that 20 to 40% need some brass removed to return them to the trim to length .
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August 7, 2022, 06:00 AM | #34 |
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Back when I started handgun hunting my wife and I went through a lot of ammo in magnum calibers. I shot mainly Winchester brass but also Starline. What I found was for general shooting, untrimmed and mixed cases shot just fine. Most will hold respectable accuracy.
That said, I usually still trim the brass for my hunting loads. I want to remove anything from the mix that might cause a flyer. There are enough errors induced by environmental or human errors. Consistent crimping is just in my routine. Shooting jacketed might let you slide by here and there but I've found that cast really likes to be set at the shoulders of the crimping groove. For my bottom feeders, if they chamber they get shot. Even for my hunting pistols I just clean em up, load and shoot.
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August 9, 2022, 11:16 PM | #35 |
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In handgun brass trimming or not trimming has little to no effect on accuracy.....In fact handgun brass gets SHORTER with repeated firings. You can verify that with your own cases.
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August 10, 2022, 12:06 AM | #36 |
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Still trying to figure out why anyone would bother.
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September 4, 2022, 05:10 PM | #37 |
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If my revolver brass is not way out of spec, I just don’t bother to trim. If I do, I use my ancient RCBS manual trimmer.
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September 4, 2022, 08:32 PM | #38 |
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September 9, 2022, 11:40 AM | #39 |
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I revisited this the other day, and measured a lot of .45 Colt brass. No reason to trim any of it
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September 9, 2022, 01:25 PM | #40 |
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The cheapest , easiest , fastest way for me is with a trim die and file .
Run the case up into the die , whatever sticks above the hardened die top ... you file it off flat with the die . Inside and outside deburr and you done ... No muss No fuss no measuring and when done everyone is exactly the same length . Mine is marked Herter's . Gary |
September 9, 2022, 10:07 PM | #41 |
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Never trimmed auto/revolver brass. And never will.......I do on my hunting rifle brass with shoulders......Never or straight walled cases such as 444 Marlin or 45/70.......Been casting, loading and shooting for the last 49 years.
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