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Old September 16, 2022, 04:39 PM   #1
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Shotgun wad substitutions

What's the difference between a Winchester WAA12 and a Winchester WAA12R
wad?
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Old September 16, 2022, 08:17 PM   #2
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See https://www.shotgunworld.com/threads...ference.19250/
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Old September 16, 2022, 09:10 PM   #3
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From that thread:

The WAA12R, commonly called the Winchester red wad, was designed for 1-1/8 ounce loads in the Winchester paper case. It is generally too short for 1-1/8 ounce loads in the typical plastic case and is used mostly for 1-1/4 to 1-1/2 ounce field loads in plastic cases.

If you are looking to buy wads for 1-1/8, I would look at ClayBuster or Downrange for a clone of the expensive Winchester
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Old September 16, 2022, 09:14 PM   #4
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windjammers are the same cup height as the win clones. however they seal better in both the current win AA and the good ole rem club shells. just saying.
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Old September 16, 2022, 09:59 PM   #5
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"The WAA12R, commonly called the Winchester red wad, was designed for 1-1/8 ounce loads in the Winchester paper case. It is generally too short for 1-1/8 ounce loads in the typical plastic case and is used mostly for 1-1/4 to 1-1/2 ounce field loads in plastic cases."

FITASC, I think you explained my accidental success which occurred many years ago when I had a bag of "red" wads and loaded them up in a plastic AA shell with 1.25oz of #4 for Turkey and bagged one. I still have the load in inventory, and I still have the wads but now I can feel more legitimate with their use!!

For 1-1/8 I've been using CB-1118-12 with more knowledgeable comfort, but I came across a Hogdon site that listed substitution wads which triggered my question.
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Old September 16, 2022, 10:02 PM   #6
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bobn, I'll look at those windjammers as I do have some Rem club shells. One of these days I have to learn how to discard what I don't need and stick with the majority of what I have to stop my experimental nature.
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Old September 19, 2022, 12:44 PM   #7
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You can't have too many different wads. Never know when one of them will come in handy.
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Old September 19, 2022, 07:40 PM   #8
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I have simplified my 12 and 20 reloading by only loading 3/4oz for both - that leaves me the Claybuster wad as my choice. Getting 533 loads form a bag of shot and the ability to kill quail, and clay targets with low recoil like that of the 28 is a nice way to spend the day.
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when you've owned a cadillac, driving in a VW will never be a substitute, no matter how hard you try to convince yourself its luxury...
which seems to be the norm these days.
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Old September 23, 2022, 06:31 AM   #10
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"You can't have too many different wads. Never know when one of them will come in handy."

I hunted small game when I had a Shorthair, but not since he died. I use 7.5 and 8 shot for clays, but I'm sitting on 100 pounds of #4, 5, and 6 that remind me of those good old days and I'll never use any of it.
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