Semi Wad Cutter question?

nefprotector · July 8, 2010, 07:41 PM

I have 500 pcs of .32 cal SWC. My question Is can I load them backwards for a lil more paper punching power?

wncchester · July 8, 2010, 07:45 PM

You can certainly load them upside down, you could call them boat tail wadcutters, but I don't understand. Do they lack paper punching power now?

Hawg · July 8, 2010, 07:47 PM

How tough is the paper you're using?

zippy13 · July 8, 2010, 07:49 PM

Are you looking for a cleaner hole in the target, or what?

Edward429451 · July 8, 2010, 09:19 PM

I've done that before when my target pulled a Neo and was dodging my bullets...I came back with my reverse polarity bullets and he zigged when he shoulda zagged and I filled him up. It works. They are BT's too

Kevin Rohrer · July 8, 2010, 09:29 PM

Yes, there is no problem seating them backwards.

I can't remember a loooooong time ago when we carried revolvers, some people liked to take hollow-base wadcutters and seat them backwards, turning them into super hollowpoints.

zippy13 · July 8, 2010, 09:39 PM

Double ended wad cutters aren't unusual -- they make reloading much easier.

bamaranger · July 9, 2010, 02:17 AM

boat tail wadcutters!!!!!!!!!

funny

nefprotector · July 9, 2010, 09:10 AM

Yes, Im thinking that I read somewhere; that loading them backwards or upside down; makes for a better or cleaner punch in the paper and would be more effective on living breathing matter such as critters. aka Bigger Hole on impact.

kraigwy · July 9, 2010, 10:50 AM

Yeah you can, but why?

You want pretty holes in paper, get a paper punch. Other wise just load the suckers like they were met to be loaded and go shoot them.

I shoot mostly SWCs and I can't see a whole lot of differance in the holes made by a SWC and the full WCs.

nefprotector · July 9, 2010, 11:10 AM

I just thought that by turning the bullet upside down would have more knockdown on big ugly critters that roam the night and steals my cats food too. But oh well I guess Ill give it a try and see what happens. Really just wanted to know if it were safe or not. Later!

ps
Ill post pics if the mod allows.

Gatofeo · July 9, 2010, 02:48 PM

Yes, it can be done but as long as you're using a semiwadcutter there's not much point.
The semiwadcutter bullet is designed with an annular ridge, to cut a clean hole. Seems to me you'd just be redundant.
Another factor hasn't been addressed: More of the bullet will be inside the case, thereby reducing the case volume. With anything more than light charges, this reduction in volume can raise pressures. The degree depends upon how much volume is in the case, and the load, so I can't say how much.
Also, with the bullet upside down, you may find it more difficult to get a decent crimp.
Just use the semiwadcutter as it was designed. Why complicate things?

nefprotector · July 11, 2010, 04:08 AM

Thanks!

rtpzwms · July 11, 2010, 09:14 AM

Yes you can do it but to make sure that every thing works correctly the primer must be installed with the same polarity as the bullet and the powder must be loaded after the bullet is seated.

nefprotector · July 14, 2010, 05:24 PM

yeah man, whatever. Apparently most of you have never tried this. I just had to do it and see what happened. I started with the min load from Lees reloading guide and worked my way up to max loads for lead bullets. Accuracy was just freaking amazing. I was really WoW'ed! Produces more thump too!

July 8, 2010, 07:41 PM	#1
nefprotector Junior member Join Date: December 3, 2009 Location: SE Alabama Posts: 701	Semi Wad Cutter question? I have 500 pcs of .32 cal SWC. My question Is can I load them backwards for a lil more paper punching power?

July 8, 2010, 07:49 PM	#4
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,442	Are you looking for a cleaner hole in the target, or what? Last edited by zippy13; July 8, 2010 at 09:40 PM.

July 8, 2010, 09:29 PM	#6
Kevin Rohrer Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2010 Location: Medina, Ohio Posts: 1,049	Yes, there is no problem seating them backwards. I can't remember a loooooong time ago when we carried revolvers, some people liked to take hollow-base wadcutters and seat them backwards, turning them into super hollowpoints. __________________ Member: Orange Gunsite Family, NRA--Life, ARTCA, and American Legion. Caveat Emptor: Cavery Grips/AmericanGripz/Prestige Grips/Stealth Grips from Clayton, NC. He is a scammer

July 9, 2010, 02:17 AM	#8
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,314	funny boat tail wadcutters!!!!!!!!! funny

July 9, 2010, 10:50 AM	#10
kraigwy Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2008 Location: Wyoming Posts: 11,061	Yeah you can, but why? You want pretty holes in paper, get a paper punch. Other wise just load the suckers like they were met to be loaded and go shoot them. I shoot mostly SWCs and I can't see a whole lot of differance in the holes made by a SWC and the full WCs. __________________ Kraig Stuart CPT USAR Ret USAMU Sniper School Distinguished Rifle Badge 1071

July 8, 2010, 07:45 PM	#2
wncchester Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2002 Posts: 2,832	You can certainly load them upside down, you could call them boat tail wadcutters, but I don't understand. Do they lack paper punching power now?

July 8, 2010, 07:47 PM	#3
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,190	How tough is the paper you're using?

July 8, 2010, 09:19 PM	#5
Edward429451 Junior member Join Date: November 12, 2000 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 9,494	I've done that before when my target pulled a Neo and was dodging my bullets...I came back with my reverse polarity bullets and he zigged when he shoulda zagged and I filled him up. It works. They are BT's too

July 8, 2010, 09:39 PM	#7
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,442	Double ended wad cutters aren't unusual -- they make reloading much easier.

July 9, 2010, 09:10 AM	#9
nefprotector Junior member Join Date: December 3, 2009 Location: SE Alabama Posts: 701	Yes, Im thinking that I read somewhere; that loading them backwards or upside down; makes for a better or cleaner punch in the paper and would be more effective on living breathing matter such as critters. aka Bigger Hole on impact.

July 9, 2010, 11:10 AM	#11
nefprotector Junior member Join Date: December 3, 2009 Location: SE Alabama Posts: 701	I just thought that by turning the bullet upside down would have more knockdown on big ugly critters that roam the night and steals my cats food too. But oh well I guess Ill give it a try and see what happens. Really just wanted to know if it were safe or not. Later! ps Ill post pics if the mod allows.

July 9, 2010, 02:48 PM	#12
Gatofeo Senior Member Join Date: October 1, 2004 Location: Remote Utah desert Posts: 224	Yes, it can be done but as long as you're using a semiwadcutter there's not much point. The semiwadcutter bullet is designed with an annular ridge, to cut a clean hole. Seems to me you'd just be redundant. Another factor hasn't been addressed: More of the bullet will be inside the case, thereby reducing the case volume. With anything more than light charges, this reduction in volume can raise pressures. The degree depends upon how much volume is in the case, and the load, so I can't say how much. Also, with the bullet upside down, you may find it more difficult to get a decent crimp. Just use the semiwadcutter as it was designed. Why complicate things? __________________ "And lo, did I see an ugly cat. Smoke. Brimstone. Holes in parchment. And this ugly cat was much amused." --- The Prophesies of Gatodamus (1503 - 1566)

July 11, 2010, 04:08 AM	#13
nefprotector Junior member Join Date: December 3, 2009 Location: SE Alabama Posts: 701	Thanks!

July 11, 2010, 09:14 AM	#14
rtpzwms Senior Member Join Date: July 6, 2010 Location: OTS Posts: 1,035	Yes you can do it but to make sure that every thing works correctly the primer must be installed with the same polarity as the bullet and the powder must be loaded after the bullet is seated.

July 14, 2010, 05:24 PM	#15
nefprotector Junior member Join Date: December 3, 2009 Location: SE Alabama Posts: 701	yeah man, whatever. Apparently most of you have never tried this. I just had to do it and see what happened. I started with the min load from Lees reloading guide and worked my way up to max loads for lead bullets. Accuracy was just freaking amazing. I was really WoW'ed! Produces more thump too!