Check my 9mm load please

chris in va · November 1, 2014, 10:40 PM

I normally use 4.1gr 7625 using a Lee 125gr LRN seated 1.07oal for my CZ. It clocks at 975fps.

Stupidly, I set the scale at 4.6gr instead. First time I've done this since I started reloading a few years ago. Unfortunately I loaded about 100 of these.

Now IMR shows a Berrys 124gr at 4.2-4.9 but at a longer OAL.

Is this a grenade or simply a 'warm' load?

Nick_C_S · November 1, 2014, 11:18 PM

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Is this a grenade or simply a 'warm' load?

I don't know.

My suggestion is to do a work up to it: A few rounds at 4.2, 4.3, 4.4, etc.

chris in va · November 1, 2014, 11:27 PM

I already loaded over a hundred at 4.6.

Nick_C_S · November 1, 2014, 11:33 PM

That's okay. Do a work up with a few rounds each, in 1/10th grain increments, until you get to 4.6. If you get there without problems, then you know that the 100 you loaded are good to go

chris in va · November 1, 2014, 11:34 PM

Oh I gotcha. Good idea.

Still can't believe I did that.

Nick_C_S · November 1, 2014, 11:49 PM

BTW, my gut tells me you don't have a problem. But I don't know that for certain.

You've got a medium speed powder - not likely to be snappy, like bullseye or red dot (I have no experience with 7625 though). You've got lead - which "relieves pressure" easier than jacketed (i.e. less barrel friction). Yep, probably just a warm load. (Leading might be an issue, but that's not the immediate concern here.)

Also, most modern 9mm handguns are rather robust and have a good deal of "headroom" built into them.

Regardless, a safe approach is the recommendation.

chris in va · November 2, 2014, 01:46 AM

Thanks, I will take the chrono and report back tomorrow with the results.

PA-Joe · November 2, 2014, 07:39 AM

Watch for leading in the barrel.

Jim243 · November 2, 2014, 07:11 PM

I checked hodgdon's web site and you should be good to go with the 7625. Max load shown is 4.9 with a 1.15 OAL. Take your impact hammer and push the bullets out to 1.15 from the current 1.07.

Jim

chris in va · November 3, 2014, 12:16 AM

Ok, fired ten each at 4.3, 4.4 and 4.5...no flattened primers or other weird signs. I held my breath and fired a couple 4.6's and they were snappy but otherwise no issues.

I couldn't chrono them unfortunately as the line was insanely busy.

They sure ejected though, three tables away. Yowza.

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impact hammer and push the bullets out to 1.15 from the current 1.07.

They'd never chamber in my CZ at that OAL.

skizzums · November 3, 2014, 12:22 AM

I would go back and seat the bullet to a prober plunk test. your load isn't I dangerous territory. if the aret chambering, just set a a hair deper and get them to chamber reliably. then shoot and have fun. your not in gun destroying territory.mo meed to pull the bullets

edit*...just saw that you already shot the rounds. nevermind

chris in va · November 3, 2014, 12:26 AM

Skizzums, CZ's have a notoriously shallow leade, almost nonexistent in fact. 1.07 is the longest I can load these Lee lead bullets before I have sticking issues. FMJ doesn't have this issue as the ogive is different.

skizzums · November 3, 2014, 02:35 AM

I hear ya. I shoot cz's as well. my fav load for regular round is 1.090. HPs I load to 1.077 or even lower. I was just talking about the load data in general, it does not appear in any kind of dangerous pressure with the amount of powder that was loaded.

November 1, 2014, 10:40 PM	#1
chris in va Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 13,806	Check my 9mm load please I normally use 4.1gr 7625 using a Lee 125gr LRN seated 1.07oal for my CZ. It clocks at 975fps. Stupidly, I set the scale at 4.6gr instead. First time I've done this since I started reloading a few years ago. Unfortunately I loaded about 100 of these. Now IMR shows a Berrys 124gr at 4.2-4.9 but at a longer OAL. Is this a grenade or simply a 'warm' load?

November 1, 2014, 11:33 PM	#4
Nick_C_S Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2013 Location: Idaho Posts: 5,524	That's okay. Do a work up with a few rounds each, in 1/10th grain increments, until you get to 4.6. If you get there without problems, then you know that the 100 you loaded are good to go __________________ Gun control laws benefit only criminals and politicians - but then, I repeat myself. Life Member, National Rifle Association

November 1, 2014, 11:49 PM	#6
Nick_C_S Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2013 Location: Idaho Posts: 5,524	BTW, my gut tells me you don't have a problem. But I don't know that for certain. You've got a medium speed powder - not likely to be snappy, like bullseye or red dot (I have no experience with 7625 though). You've got lead - which "relieves pressure" easier than jacketed (i.e. less barrel friction). Yep, probably just a warm load. (Leading might be an issue, but that's not the immediate concern here.) Also, most modern 9mm handguns are rather robust and have a good deal of "headroom" built into them. Regardless, a safe approach is the recommendation. __________________ Gun control laws benefit only criminals and politicians - but then, I repeat myself. Life Member, National Rifle Association Last edited by Nick_C_S; November 1, 2014 at 11:55 PM. Reason: Additional Information

November 2, 2014, 07:11 PM	#9
Jim243 Senior Member Join Date: January 5, 2009 Location: Just off Route 66 Posts: 5,067	I checked hodgdon's web site and you should be good to go with the 7625. Max load shown is 4.9 with a 1.15 OAL. Take your impact hammer and push the bullets out to 1.15 from the current 1.07. Jim __________________ Si vis pacem, para bellum

November 3, 2014, 12:22 AM	#11
skizzums Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2013 Location: Douglasville, Ga Posts: 4,615	I would go back and seat the bullet to a prober plunk test. your load isn't I dangerous territory. if the aret chambering, just set a a hair deper and get them to chamber reliably. then shoot and have fun. your not in gun destroying territory.mo meed to pull the bullets edit*...just saw that you already shot the rounds. nevermind __________________ My head is bloody, but unbowed

November 1, 2014, 11:27 PM	#3
chris in va Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 13,806	I already loaded over a hundred at 4.6.

November 1, 2014, 11:34 PM	#5
chris in va Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 13,806	Oh I gotcha. Good idea. Still can't believe I did that.

November 2, 2014, 01:46 AM	#7
chris in va Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 13,806	Thanks, I will take the chrono and report back tomorrow with the results.

November 2, 2014, 07:39 AM	#8
PA-Joe Senior Member Join Date: June 9, 2010 Location: NEPA Posts: 909	Watch for leading in the barrel.

November 3, 2014, 12:26 AM	#12
chris in va Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 13,806	Skizzums, CZ's have a notoriously shallow leade, almost nonexistent in fact. 1.07 is the longest I can load these Lee lead bullets before I have sticking issues. FMJ doesn't have this issue as the ogive is different.

November 3, 2014, 02:35 AM	#13
skizzums Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2013 Location: Douglasville, Ga Posts: 4,615	I hear ya. I shoot cz's as well. my fav load for regular round is 1.090. HPs I load to 1.077 or even lower. I was just talking about the load data in general, it does not appear in any kind of dangerous pressure with the amount of powder that was loaded. __________________ My head is bloody, but unbowed