Walther PP 7.65mm (Information Please)

vikingboy · October 20, 2011, 09:56 AM

I have a Walther PP 7.65mm. The serial number is 100XXXP. The proof mark is a pentagon-shaped crown over N. It is not the normal crown over N. The safety slide moves 60 degrees (not 90). Does anyone have information about this gun?

James K · October 20, 2011, 07:40 PM

I don't recall any noticeably different crowns and I think any difference is only a matter of a stamp variation. The PP/PPK had only the crown/N and the eagle/N in their production lives. That gun would date to 1938.

Jim

vikingboy · October 21, 2011, 07:13 AM

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

James K · October 21, 2011, 04:06 PM

To clarify, I was referring to the pre-1945 (pre- and during WWII) proof marks; post-war proof marks have an eagle, but of a very different style from the Nazi eagle.

Sorry for any confusion.

Jim

vikingboy · October 22, 2011, 02:38 PM

Thanks for the additional information. I learned how to field strip the gun today. It appears to be clean and in fine working order. With some minor pitting on the blued surface, do you have a ballpark idea about the retail value of the gun?

James K · October 22, 2011, 07:38 PM

I think we would have to see some good pictures to give a valid evaluation. An average pre-war commerical PP in 7.65mm (.32 ACP) with no special markings and a non-numbered mag would go for around $600-700. Sometimes I see inflated values quoted, but the trouble with buying at those prices is that there can be a rude awakening if one then wants to sell.

Jim

vikingboy · October 28, 2011, 03:31 PM

Thanks for the figure. I think that sounds reasonable.

October 20, 2011, 09:56 AM	#1
vikingboy Junior Member Join Date: October 20, 2011 Posts: 4	Walther PP 7.65mm (Information Please) I have a Walther PP 7.65mm. The serial number is 100XXXP. The proof mark is a pentagon-shaped crown over N. It is not the normal crown over N. The safety slide moves 60 degrees (not 90). Does anyone have information about this gun?

October 21, 2011, 07:13 AM	#3
vikingboy Junior Member Join Date: October 20, 2011 Posts: 4	Many Thanks Thanks for clearing that up for me.

October 22, 2011, 02:38 PM	#5
vikingboy Junior Member Join Date: October 20, 2011 Posts: 4	Walther PP Thanks for the additional information. I learned how to field strip the gun today. It appears to be clean and in fine working order. With some minor pitting on the blued surface, do you have a ballpark idea about the retail value of the gun?

October 28, 2011, 03:31 PM	#7
vikingboy Junior Member Join Date: October 20, 2011 Posts: 4	PP Value Thanks for the figure. I think that sounds reasonable.

October 20, 2011, 07:40 PM	#2
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	I don't recall any noticeably different crowns and I think any difference is only a matter of a stamp variation. The PP/PPK had only the crown/N and the eagle/N in their production lives. That gun would date to 1938. Jim

October 21, 2011, 04:06 PM	#4
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	To clarify, I was referring to the pre-1945 (pre- and during WWII) proof marks; post-war proof marks have an eagle, but of a very different style from the Nazi eagle. Sorry for any confusion. Jim

October 22, 2011, 07:38 PM	#6
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	I think we would have to see some good pictures to give a valid evaluation. An average pre-war commerical PP in 7.65mm (.32 ACP) with no special markings and a non-numbered mag would go for around $600-700. Sometimes I see inflated values quoted, but the trouble with buying at those prices is that there can be a rude awakening if one then wants to sell. Jim