My first 1911....suggestions?

Stats Shooter · February 13, 2018, 07:16 PM

I have decided I need a 1911 style pistol. I do not currently own one, and never have. I have decided it will be another 10mm, to go along with my glock 20. I like the 10mm and am already setup to load for it so ammo will be cheaper.

I don't have a budget per se'..But I don't need a boutique Wilson combat gun.....something in the $1500 or less range.

If you are nice enough to give an opinion on this, please justify it.

Thanks

Siggy-06 · February 13, 2018, 07:31 PM

1911 you say? 10mm you say? First gun that comes to my mind is the Colt Delta Elite in Stainless. Can be had around $900ish, has been around a long time as well. Pretty good shooting pistol. If you wanna go cheaper, Rock Island makes a few 10mm's

Forgot to mention Ruger now makes their SR1911 in 10mm! Haven't got to shoot one yet, but the .45 version is nice enough.

Stats Shooter · February 13, 2018, 09:12 PM

COLT Delta Elite is on the short list. But there are others like the s&w 1006, kimber, Dan Wesson, ruger, and Para that I have been trying to evaluate

mikejonestkd · February 13, 2018, 09:41 PM

for a 10mm 1911 look no further than the Colt Delta elite or a Dan Wesson. Both are well made pistols.

Jayhawkhuntclub · February 13, 2018, 09:44 PM

If you're going to get a 1911, go with a Dan Wesson or a Colt; especially if you have that much to spend. The DW will be nicer. But the Colt will be a Colt!

Sevens · February 13, 2018, 09:48 PM

I think the Delta Elite is miles from the best choice. It's shown over and over that it does NOT have the case head support that many other 10mm have. The Delta Elite that I owned had an uninspiring trigger, GI style grip safety that ate up the web of my hand, and came with a plastic MSH and plastic in the guide rod.

In my opinion, the Delta Elite is a handsome pistol and it is historically significant. And if you don't intend to run full-spec and lively 10mm, then it is a fine base platform for a build.

Otherwise... most other choices are better and offer better value.

KyJim · February 13, 2018, 10:16 PM

At that price, you may be able to get a Dan Wesson Silverback. I'm a big fan of DW 1911s. They excellent 1911s. They also have ramped barrels which help with the case head support.

Stats Shooter · February 13, 2018, 10:26 PM

I shoot full house 10mm loads in my glock with Alpha Wolf barrel (fully supported). 200 gr jhp at 1250-1260 fps from a 5.3" barrel.

The COLT concerns me on that front.

**Aguila Blanca** · February 13, 2018, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Stats Shooter

COLT Delta Elite is on the short list. But there are others like the s&w 1006, kimber, Dan Wesson, ruger, and Para that I have been trying to evaluate

The S&W 1006 is not a 1911. Para-Ordnance/ParaUSA is out of business.

My vote would go to the Colt, but I was at the SHOT Show three weeks ago and a LOT of 1911 manufacturers are offering 10mm models this year. Take your pick.

Stats Shooter · February 13, 2018, 11:25 PM

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The S&W 1006 is not a 1911. Para-Ordnance/ParaUSA is out of business.

Good points

What about the kimber?

**Aguila Blanca** · February 14, 2018, 03:56 AM

"Friends don't let friends buy Kimber."

1stmar · February 14, 2018, 04:54 AM

dan wesson or perhaps you get lucky on a used les baer. Colt would be my third option

COSteve · February 15, 2018, 09:45 AM

Lots of good suggestions above, however, for the best forged frame and slide pistol that's out of the box reliable, I'd suggest a Springfield 1911. I bought a NM Mil-Spec back in 2012 and like it so much I bought a second, a NM Range Officer. Both have feed everything I've tried 100%. Not a single failure to feed in over 3K rds through each. Both are accurate and both are solid and reasonably priced.

Kilrb · February 16, 2018, 05:35 AM

Dan Wesson was my first 1911 and I don't regret at all

BBarn · February 16, 2018, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Stats Shooter

I shoot full house 10mm loads in my glock with Alpha Wolf barrel (fully supported). 200 gr jhp at 1250-1260 fps from a 5.3" barrel.

The COLT concerns me on that front.

I'm not sure how well any 1911 will fare on a diet of full house 10mm. I guess I would buy the one with the best warranty/customer service thinking I may need it.

Stats Shooter · February 16, 2018, 07:49 AM

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'm not sure how well any 1911 will fare on a diet of full house 10mm. I guess I would buy the one with the best warranty/customer service thinking I may need it.

It wouldn't be exclusively a diet of full power 10mm. Right now I have a plinking 180gr load and a full power 200gr load. The plinkers get shot the most by far.

I just need to know it can handle several mags of it and most of my concern is having a fully supported barrel. The glock 20 factory barrel is not, but with new brass it isn't dangerous.

The COLT DE seems to be a frequent kaboomer with full 10mm loads. Even with factory full power 10mm like Underwood or buffalo bore.

Again I wouldn't mostly be shooting full power loads in it, but when I do, I need to know it can handle it

Fishbed77 · February 16, 2018, 08:33 AM

Dan Wesson if you have the money. Colt if you want to spend a little less.

Stats Shooter · February 16, 2018, 09:14 AM

Are the Rugers not any good? I hear nothing about them

haiauphixu · February 16, 2018, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stats Shooter

I have decided I need a 1911 style pistol. I do not currently own one, and never have. I have decided it will be another 10mm, to go along with my glock 20. I like the 10mm and am already setup to load for it so ammo will be cheaper.

I don't have a budget per se'..But I don't need a boutique Wilson combat gun.....something in the $1500 or less range.

If you are nice enough to give an opinion on this, please justify it.

Thanks

Oh no, you don't "need" another gun, you just "want" it. Admitting it and then go get it, what ever you want. Don't we all know how it feel....

chaim · February 16, 2018, 03:03 PM

For a 10mm 1911 (something I'm thinking I may need to get in a year or two) I will probably go with Ruger, Rock Island Armory, or the original, Colt Delta Elite. All are under $1500, the first two are well under $1500.

Stats Shooter · February 16, 2018, 10:31 PM

I think I'm going to get the Ruger. Ramped and fully supported barrel, 4lb trigger, stainless, chf nitride barrel. My LGS has one I handled today along with a COLT DE, Remington Hunter, and some $3200 Wilson Combat. The Ruger has what I want in features, if it shoots I will be satisfied....and for $735

Siggy-06 · February 16, 2018, 10:38 PM

Good choice Stats Shooter. If I were going to buy one today for under $750, the Ruger would be my first choice. They're customer service has been excellent in my experience as well, plus a great warranty.

Stats Shooter · February 16, 2018, 10:45 PM

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Good choice Stats Shooter. If I were going to buy one today for under $750

I learned long ago, price is an indicator of quality, but not the final word on it. I handled the Remington hunter ($1019), the COLT DE, and a $3200 Wilson Combat. If I hadn't seen the price tags, I would have ranked it 2nd behind the Wilson Combat and the Remington last based upon fit/finish, trigger pull, and other feel factors. I obviously couldn't shoot them and that's where it really counts.

Northof50 · February 16, 2018, 11:01 PM

LOVE the 10. LOVE the 1911. Do Not LOVE the combo.

Stats Shooter · February 17, 2018, 04:54 PM

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February 13, 2018, 07:16 PM	#1
Stats Shooter Senior Member Join Date: August 26, 2016 Location: North Dakota Posts: 1,636	My first 1911....suggestions? I have decided I need a 1911 style pistol. I do not currently own one, and never have. I have decided it will be another 10mm, to go along with my glock 20. I like the 10mm and am already setup to load for it so ammo will be cheaper. I don't have a budget per se'..But I don't need a boutique Wilson combat gun.....something in the $1500 or less range. If you are nice enough to give an opinion on this, please justify it. Thanks

February 13, 2018, 07:31 PM	#2
Siggy-06 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 1,148	1911 you say? 10mm you say? First gun that comes to my mind is the Colt Delta Elite in Stainless. Can be had around $900ish, has been around a long time as well. Pretty good shooting pistol. If you wanna go cheaper, Rock Island makes a few 10mm's Forgot to mention Ruger now makes their SR1911 in 10mm! Haven't got to shoot one yet, but the .45 version is nice enough. __________________ Flicks just like a lighter, just a different kind of fire.

February 13, 2018, 09:41 PM	#4
mikejonestkd Senior Member Join Date: January 3, 2006 Location: Brockport, NY Posts: 3,717	for a 10mm 1911 look no further than the Colt Delta elite or a Dan Wesson. Both are well made pistols. __________________ You are the bows from which your children as living arrows are sent forth.

February 13, 2018, 09:48 PM	#6
Sevens Senior Member Join Date: July 28, 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 11,756	I think the Delta Elite is miles from the best choice. It's shown over and over that it does NOT have the case head support that many other 10mm have. The Delta Elite that I owned had an uninspiring trigger, GI style grip safety that ate up the web of my hand, and came with a plastic MSH and plastic in the guide rod. In my opinion, the Delta Elite is a handsome pistol and it is historically significant. And if you don't intend to run full-spec and lively 10mm, then it is a fine base platform for a build. Otherwise... most other choices are better and offer better value. __________________ *Attention Brass rats and other reloaders:* I really need .327 Federal Magnum brass, no lot size too small. Tell me what caliber you need and I'll see what I have to swap. PM me and we'll discuss.

February 16, 2018, 10:38 PM	#22
Siggy-06 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 1,148	Good choice Stats Shooter. If I were going to buy one today for under $750, the Ruger would be my first choice. They're customer service has been excellent in my experience as well, plus a great warranty. __________________ Flicks just like a lighter, just a different kind of fire.

February 13, 2018, 09:12 PM	#3
Stats Shooter Senior Member Join Date: August 26, 2016 Location: North Dakota Posts: 1,636	COLT Delta Elite is on the short list. But there are others like the s&w 1006, kimber, Dan Wesson, ruger, and Para that I have been trying to evaluate

February 13, 2018, 09:44 PM	#5
Jayhawkhuntclub Senior Member Join Date: December 13, 2007 Posts: 581	If you're going to get a 1911, go with a Dan Wesson or a Colt; especially if you have that much to spend. The DW will be nicer. But the Colt will be a Colt!

February 13, 2018, 10:16 PM	#7
KyJim Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2005 Location: The Bluegrass Posts: 9,142	At that price, you may be able to get a Dan Wesson Silverback. I'm a big fan of DW 1911s. They excellent 1911s. They also have ramped barrels which help with the case head support.

February 13, 2018, 10:26 PM	#8
Stats Shooter Senior Member Join Date: August 26, 2016 Location: North Dakota Posts: 1,636	I shoot full house 10mm loads in my glock with Alpha Wolf barrel (fully supported). 200 gr jhp at 1250-1260 fps from a 5.3" barrel. The COLT concerns me on that front.

February 14, 2018, 03:56 AM	#11
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,476	"Friends don't let friends buy Kimber."

February 14, 2018, 04:54 AM	#12
1stmar Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2012 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,378	dan wesson or perhaps you get lucky on a used les baer. Colt would be my third option

February 15, 2018, 09:45 AM	#13
COSteve Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2009 Posts: 1,344	Lots of good suggestions above, however, for the best forged frame and slide pistol that's out of the box reliable, I'd suggest a Springfield 1911. I bought a NM Mil-Spec back in 2012 and like it so much I bought a second, a NM Range Officer. Both have feed everything I've tried 100%. Not a single failure to feed in over 3K rds through each. Both are accurate and both are solid and reasonably priced.

February 16, 2018, 05:35 AM	#14
Kilrb Member Join Date: September 20, 2017 Posts: 25	Dan Wesson was my first 1911 and I don't regret at all

February 16, 2018, 08:33 AM	#17
Fishbed77 Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2010 Posts: 4,862	Dan Wesson if you have the money. Colt if you want to spend a little less.

February 16, 2018, 09:14 AM	#18
Stats Shooter Senior Member Join Date: August 26, 2016 Location: North Dakota Posts: 1,636	Are the Rugers not any good? I hear nothing about them

February 16, 2018, 03:03 PM	#20
chaim Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,095	For a 10mm 1911 (something I'm thinking I may need to get in a year or two) I will probably go with Ruger, Rock Island Armory, or the original, Colt Delta Elite. All are under $1500, the first two are well under $1500.

February 16, 2018, 10:31 PM	#21
Stats Shooter Senior Member Join Date: August 26, 2016 Location: North Dakota Posts: 1,636	I think I'm going to get the Ruger. Ramped and fully supported barrel, 4lb trigger, stainless, chf nitride barrel. My LGS has one I handled today along with a COLT DE, Remington Hunter, and some $3200 Wilson Combat. The Ruger has what I want in features, if it shoots I will be satisfied....and for $735

February 16, 2018, 11:01 PM	#24
Northof50 Junior member Join Date: January 5, 2018 Location: Northeast USA Posts: 232	LOVE the 10. LOVE the 1911. Do Not LOVE the combo.

February 17, 2018, 04:54 PM	#25
Stats Shooter Senior Member Join Date: August 26, 2016 Location: North Dakota Posts: 1,636	Here she is [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG]