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July 24, 2019, 07:39 PM | #26 |
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If you are talking pants.
Same as "pocket" autos. Some pockets yes, some no. Of course my LCP disappears in most any pocket, and is easy to draw. The size of my Kahr CM9 is more in line with my LCR, and only works well in some pockets as does the plastic Ruger 38 Spcl. Most often the LCP is put to use as a pocket revolver in a Winter coat pocket during the colder months.
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July 24, 2019, 09:57 PM | #27 |
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I PC my S&W 442-2 & 638-3 .38 SPL+P all the time when i'm not CC'ing.
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That has Hogue rubber grips, so I imagine the stock Smith 642 with its exposed metal backstrap must be a truly miserable experience. So the .380 recoil must be much less. Of course the .380 from a pocket pistol is already pretty low in velocity, so from a snubbie barrel must be even less? |
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July 24, 2019, 11:20 PM | #29 |
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I have a 642 in a cheapie Uncle Mikes pocket holster from Walmart ($2.50---yes $2.50) that works reasonably well in cargo shorts----make sure you wear a belt to hold your pants up.
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July 25, 2019, 06:00 AM | #30 |
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Well I came to learn that someone I already know has been looking to sell his 7 year old 442 (with Hogue grips installed) for a while. I'll go to the range sometime and shoot with him. Maybe I'll pick it up.
Even if I never end up carrying it, it gives me something new to do After watching YouTube it looks like it's no small effort to get good with reloading revolvers. I can reload a semi-auto in about 1.5 seconds (and have another 8-15 rounds ready to go -- not 5) so I think a revolver is gonna take some work. Lucky Gunner is such a fun channel to watch! |
July 25, 2019, 11:25 AM | #31 |
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One advantage of revolvers is you don't have to run a couple of boxes of your carry ammo through them to make sure they'll feed.
If you get a chance to shoot the 442 you might want to take your Pico along so you can compare how they fit in your pocket. I can't imagine the Pico causing a problem that the 442 will cure, but you never know until you try. Stranger things have happened. Good luck. |
July 25, 2019, 11:39 AM | #32 |
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July 25, 2019, 12:29 PM | #33 |
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Can't remember where I learned this, but with a revolver with an exposed hammer, when you draw from your pocket, put your thumb in the space under the hammer, on the back strap. That prevents the hammer snagging on your pocket. Once clear of the pocket it's simple to let your thumb drop over into your firing grip.
This will work with any gun you draw from your pocket. With your thumb in that position, you're reducing the width of the your grip, which makes it easier to get out of your pocket. Just takes some practice. |
July 25, 2019, 02:28 PM | #34 |
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I know some guys who carry full size 1911's in their front pocket. Not for me, but it has been done.
I believe in the KISS principle. Spend as much as you want, but the small neoprene holsters like this work IWB with guns like a G43, Ruger LC9s, or Sig 365 just fine. I've even gone as big as a G29. It is a little thick with the double stacks, but I can forget one of the smaller single stacks are there They hold the gun secure, and don't break the bank. https://www.amazon.com/Sticky-Holste...A3DBPI3OGAZSQL
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July 25, 2019, 07:43 PM | #35 |
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This is the revolver I carry when I carry one in the pocket, which I don't do much anymore. The SW Model 38 with those small grips fits in almost all pants pockets. The unusual shape doesn't shout "gun!" especially in a pocket holster. In addition the small grips do not print very much. A t-grip would help with gripping it while not making it print any more. http://www.t-grips.com/
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July 25, 2019, 08:46 PM | #36 |
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S&W J frame in a good pocket holster, all day every day.
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July 26, 2019, 07:00 PM | #37 |
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It all depends on your revolver and your pockets. The only revolver I have that fits in most of my pockets is a NAA .22LR. However if you wear pants with big enough pockets you can carry K-Frames or larger.
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July 26, 2019, 07:35 PM | #38 |
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Charter Arms Aluminum framed 38Spl ... Mine weighs at 11.5 OZ
You can buy one DAO or buy a DAO hammer for $20 and in 5mins you have a DAO Last edited by Buckeye!; July 26, 2019 at 07:42 PM. |
July 26, 2019, 07:46 PM | #39 |
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I agree with 44 AMP- a 642/442 is perfect for a coat or jacket gun.
A 442 works great (for me) as a pocket gun, but the Ruger LCP is unbeatable as a pants pocket gun. |
July 26, 2019, 08:16 PM | #40 |
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I also have a 442 and occasionally carry it in a pocket holster, it works well for me even in jeans. I do wear relaxed fit jeans though, not skin tights.
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July 26, 2019, 11:09 PM | #41 | |
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An alternative is to have a holster than includes the whole inside mouth of the pocket. If the hammer spur is sliding on leather or kydex all the way past the edge of the pocket, it's not going to snag. Of course, this also means that other concealment garments have to be clear. |
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July 28, 2019, 12:23 PM | #43 |
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I've always felt that J-frames were a bit too big for most pockets. Many are also too heavy. I own one of the lightest J-frames, the 351C at 11.5 oz, but I usually carry the 8.5 oz and much smaller NAA Black Widow. It's Florida so clothes are lightweight and nobody wears jackets.
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July 28, 2019, 12:34 PM | #44 |
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My friends keep telling me I have short arms and long pockets. Especially when the check arrives. Not sure how that relates to revolver carry.
I have never found one larger that the NAA Mini that I could conceal in a pants pocket. .The small autos LCP , Keltec Etc. just seam to work better for me. |
July 28, 2019, 06:33 PM | #45 |
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I'm still of mixed feelings on pocket carry. Even my Beretta Pico leaves a curiously large rectangle printing in my pocket, isn't that easy to get out quickly, and in many of my pants causes the pocket mouth to bow outward allowing a view down into the contents of the pocket.
I've practiced a lot with this little gun and it's still hard to shoot well, harder still to draw effectively and come out with a good grip. With a perfect grip on a pocket gun like this, your results might be pretty good. But the gun is so small that it is unforgiving of even a slightly off-kilter grip on the handle of the weapon. Where has a much larger gun may give you more room for error, a little pocket 380 seems more likely to almost flip out of your hand if you don't have good purchase. one of the things that is currently drawing me to the idea of a revolver is that the grip seems to conceal much more effectively under a shirt even when tucked in, and the somewhat rounded and hooked shape of a revolver grip seems to lend itself better toward getting a good firing grip on the first try. if most of my dress pants make it hard to conceal the Pico in a front pants pocket, then I don't imagine any J frame revolvers are going to conceal their either. so for deep concealment I may simply have to find a better method like one of those pouch deep concealment carry rigs? I think Smartcarry is a popular brand of that style. anyway, did anybody here switch to a small revolver because they found the pocket 380s simply too difficult to draw and control well? |
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Have you considered a tuckable IWB holster for your Pico?
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July 28, 2019, 07:39 PM | #47 |
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I have a tuckable Remora holster for it that doesn't always stay put that well. Holster with clips have...well, clips that seem obvious to me but maybe I'm overthinking it. It's still not easy for me to reliably get a fast grip on that gun from IWB
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July 28, 2019, 07:50 PM | #48 |
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I'd recommend trying a hammerless J frame with a wood grip that fits you in your pocket. If someone is looking hard, they will notice you have something in your pocket but it doesn't necessarily scream "gun".
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July 28, 2019, 07:53 PM | #49 |
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What type of clothing do you wear, OhioGuy?
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I don't know what went wrong...putting my thumb over the hammer spur worked so well in practice. Or, I can just bob the hammer spur and give up on the fantasy of needing a hammer on a defensive revolver. [IMG][/IMG] The pocket holster in the picture is a Bianchi...one of the least expensive pocket holsters, one of the best. I have been carrying such for many years...two of them, one for my S&W 36 (I bobbed it.), and one for my Taurus 65 (came already spurless from the factory). Last edited by dahermit; July 29, 2019 at 09:24 AM. |
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