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July 5, 2011, 07:52 AM | #1 | |
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Ted Nugent takes on the U.N.
God Bless Ted Nugent!
In his latest article on 2A Rights, Ted takes on the U.N.'s proposed world-wide ban on private ownership of small arms. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...s-at-it-again/ Quote:
Have any readers had direct or indirect experience or insight into the U.N.'s approaches and strategies on private ownership of small arms that they could share?
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And history has repeated itself around the world as many millions have been killed at the hands of such evildoers as Nugent mentions in the first paragraph, Quote:
In my opinion, Nugent is spot on!
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Ah, well, this is politics ...
But it is a worthy discussion. Let's try L&CR and hope the mods there see it as on topic. Tip: If this gets into a soap box carnival on (plug in your favorite religion to blame for the world's ills here) extremists, it won't last long at all. Moving. |
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While we agree on general principles, I'm not comfortable having this guy presume to speak for us. This is exactly the tone and type of rhetoric that makes people on the fence think we're raving anarchists.
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There is one inaccuracy of that article. Vladimir Lenin did not ban ownership:
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Furthermore modern democratic socialism has a neutral stance on gun ownership, it is wrong and uneducated to say Socialism = No Guns. Communism = No Guns. If FDR could see the UN now, I fear that he would start WWIII over it, as it was never meant to bully countries into repressive treaties passed by uninformed people. |
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There's a very real difference between making a point and simply scoring points, and Mr. Nugent doesn't get the distinction. While his tirades might go over great with the (already converted) base, they don't look good to moderates. I've never been comfortable with him appointing himself as a spokesperson for the gun culture. In an unrelated note, if I ever have to hear "Cat Scratch Fever" again, I'm going ballistic.
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It may be more accurate to say that not all democratic socialist countries have eliminated privately own firearms just most of the democratic socialist countries. One must also be careful because the word democratic gets thrown around in a lot of systems that have very little democracy. If I give you only hard core socialist or hard core whatever to vote for and no other choices, sure its technically democratic but in actuality its anything but democratic. The UN however seems to be wish for all nations to give up some level of sovereign power, something that doesnt sit well with our Constitution nor a great many people of this nation. Im not going to dig off into all the things people say but simply sum it as we need to keep all of our sovereign rights and powers as a nation.
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Democratic socialism, as the ideas that I follow mostly differs from US democracy in areas of economics and social programs. It is in contrast from what you know as Market Communism (PRC) and the EU democracies.
Gun ownership is essential, yet too many even believe small amounts of control are repressive, small being the current NICS and 4473 laws. Those are reasonable, but laws such as 922r and Hughes are ridiculous. The UN has taken the position of acting as an overseer of countries, something its not designed for. |
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It needed to be said, but there's a lot to be said for speechwriters. Ted could do more than Charlton Heston did if he would just hire publicists and speechwriters.
So who then if not Ted? Larry the Cable guy lol?! |
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or I remember all too well how things went in the 1990's. The gun culture was depicted in the media as a gaggle of beer-belching, confederate flag waving, slogan screaming rednecks. That didn't help us. What helped us was having approachable, respectable spokesmen putting forth reasoned, logical arguments.
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Ted Nugents status as a celebrity makes him no better a spokesman than Sean penn, Barbara Streisand or the rest of the celebrity ninnies, its just that y'all like HIS message more than theirs
I personally wish all of them would shut up and not pollute the body politic with their rants. WilditsallabouttheoxAlaska ™©2002-2011 Last edited by Wildalaska; July 5, 2011 at 04:43 PM. |
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Gas-Clay; you're tracking with my opinions. Congrats to Ted for his advocacy, but in the end there surely could be a better messenger (IMHO).
So who will stand up and take his place (as Edward429451 points out)? Don't know....this problem is kinda like the Palin-affect. She's a hoot to watch, sometimes speaks the gospel, but still few "really" take her seriously no matter what she says. |
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Never? Sampson pulled down a temple and killed thousands of Philistines. Apparently he had his god's blessing and that of his fellow Israelites. Mobs break into and loot the home of a government official, forcing the man and his family to flee for their lives. Some people might call them thugs, in American history they are part of the Sons of Liberty and our original patriots. Violence as a political tool is going to be with us for the foreseeable future as it was in our past. |
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Virginia Attorney-General Ken Cuccinelli
Here's a smart, articulate, telegenic spokesman for RKBA. His latest stroke was an official opinion saying that personal defense was "good and sufficient reason" under the Virginia Code to carry concealed into church services. Prior to that, the meaning of that nebulous phrase had never been officially parsed, so most CHLs refrained from testing their luck.
I suspect Mr. Cuccinelli's ambitions don't stop at Commonwealth's AG, either.
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Cuccinelli is a pawn of the anti-environmentalist movement, and needs to go. I roll my eyes at his crappy logic.
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Pure Politics.
Closed (Bud kinda warned everyone, yes?). |
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