40S&W…Have you seen the deals?

[Nathan]

If you want a super effective self/home defense pistol, here’s a tip. Buy a 40 S&W. They are literally giving away used 40 S&W pistols right now.

These things are amazing too! Almost every JHP defense marketed ammunition is a solid performer. Ammo is still available. A couple bucks more than 9mm.

I was just blown away when I saw the near gift pricing!

[Nubia]

Where have you seen these deals? Any CZ stuff?


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[jar]

But it's one more caliber I would have to store. Yes, looks like everyone who jumped on the shorty-forty is getting off the merry-go-round.

A great example are a couple Sig P226s at the local LGS; a 9mm at over a grand and a shorty-forty at $600. If the shorty-forty get under $500.00 I'll likely jump on it, toss the barrel and convert to 9mm.

[74A95]

Originally Posted by Nathan

If you want a super effective self/home defense pistol, here’s a tip. Buy a 40 S&W. They are literally giving away used 40 S&W pistols right now.

By all means, share with us where we can gat a free 40 S&W gun. Thanks!

[Pumpkin]

I have had two 40’s for quite a while, no worries here.
It amazes me the amount of band wagon hatred of a cartridge that is just as effective as it ever was.

[jar]

It's not hatred of the cartridge but apathy. In my case I already have handguns in lots of calibers and the shorty-forty simply doesn't offer enough to get me to add yet another even if the handgun was free.

[wild cat mccane]

HST 40...if you have a 40 gun, it's a great deal.

Can almost shoot the best load on the market in 40 (HST) at prices of some FMJ 9mm. Wild.

[Nathan]

Originally Posted by jar

It's not hatred of the cartridge but apathy.

No, go to the gun counter…..it is widely maligned by gun counter experts unless they are piling up for sale!

[Nathan]

Originally Posted by 74A95

By all means, share with us where we can gat a free 40 S&W gun. Thanks!

I shouldn’t have said literally, but try searching 40 s&w pistols on Gunbroker….amazing!

[jar]

There are lots of low priced used 40s because those who bought a whole mess of 40s are now getting rid of them. The number available has nothing to do with what gun counter experts say.

[Pumpkin]

Just what are the valid reasons for as you say so many people getting rid of them?

[tangolima]

I bought my g23 from a coworker for $250. He sold the pistol mostly because 9mm was "better". Now I have conversion barrels for 9mm, .357 sig, 22TCM9R. But mostly of the time I shoot the original .40s&w.

-TL

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[jar]

Originally Posted by Pumpkin

Just what are the valid reasons for as you say so many people getting rid of them?

They bought in quantity and are now selling in quantity. Lots of the used forty-short are LE and military trade-ins. When a department changes platforms the usually then simply dump the existing stock en-masse.

[Pumpkin]

Good time to be a fan of the 40 S&W.

[wild cat mccane]

"Trade in" ammo popped up on occasionally before, but as of late 40 has become constantly available.

HST 40 is about almost exactly now what it was when 9mm HST was $20. In what prior world was 40 less expensive than 9mm? It currently is though.

If I had a gun I wanted for range in 40, I'd be happy for sure.

[ZoieBarnett]

So where can I buy them with such a good sale? I don't think that military just sell them to simple people.

[jdc1244]

If I had a gun I wanted for range in 40, I'd be happy for sure.

Agreed.

In my case that's a Smith 610.

[jar]

Originally Posted by ZoieBarnett

So where can I buy them with such a good sale? I don't think that military just sell them to simple people.

No, agencies, military or civilian sell the guns in lots to distributors and importers who then sell them to individuals. Those often simply get passed on to one or more of the online auction houses.

[Shadow9mm]

Originally Posted by Nathan

I shouldn’t have said literally, but try searching 40 s&w pistols on Gunbroker….amazing!

So what your saying is, go buy 40s because everyone is deciding to get rid of theirs.... interesting logic.

[Kestrel4k]

"Buy when everybody else is selling, and sell when everybody else is buying"
- Warren Buffett

[Pumpkin]

I’m waiting for all the law enforcement agencies to drop the 9mm in favor of say, the 30 Super Carry.
Next would be Joe Buyer having to have what’s the latest, greatest and newest.
Full disclosure, I have some 40’s and too many 9’s.

[2wheelwander]

He ain't lying. Glocks, Sig's and Springfield .40's are marked down. CZ not so much. I love the .40. Watched a video just the other day of a retired SEAL who was around when they used it. Said SOCOM all went with .40 because of the FBI results, he claimed they only went back to 9mm for budgetary reasons. IIRC he said it saved them ~2 million a year they could put towards other things.

I love the .40 I don't carry one anymore, but I have a few. Great round IMHO. Glad its cheap!

[dogtown tom]

The problem with buying a discount .40 pistol isn't the price of the gun, its the cost of ammunition. .40 is typically eight to ten cents higher per round.

$300 used Glock 22 or 23's aren't new by any means. When the FBI dumped the .40, so did huge number of other federal, state and local LE. That happened in 2015, so the OP just discovering deals on .40 pistols is kinda surprising.

They are deals because they don't sell as well as 9x19. It not a knock on the .40, just a result of the marketplace making a preference.

[rc]

Nothing wrong with a good 40. In fact it is more effective with every type of ammo than 9mm in my opinion given similar grade of ammo. FMJ 40 better than FMJ 9, Standard Police HP better in 40 than a Standard JHP. The 9 is a fine round but to say it "beats" the 40 or is better than a 40 is just not reality except for price of the ammo. HST 9 may beat some standard 40 loads but does HST 40 lose to HST 9 on the street statistics?

[jmr40]

Virtually every LE agency has moved to 9mm and dumped 40 S&W in the last 10 years. There are used 40 S&W pistols at bargain prices everywhere I go.

Our city PD has used 9mm for 30 years and have never had a failure to stop a bad guy with more than 2 shots. Our County PD and Sheriff's department, GSP, and Game wardens went to 40 caliber pistols in 1994 but all have switched to 9mm. They researched other LE agencies all over the country and found no difference in performance, but about twice the cost to shoot 40's

Ammo prices on the better HP loads aren't that much more expensive for 40 caliber, but FMJ practice ammo, especially when LE agencies buy in bulk is more than double the cost. I can still get 9mm FMJ for $13/50 rounds. FMJ 40 S&W loads are closer to $40/50.

If you don't shoot a lot there are some bargains on some used guns, Especially Glocks. And I'd have zero issues buying a used Glock no matter how rough it looked. Send it back to Glock and they will refurb it and replace any worn parts at no cost for life.

It doesn't cost that much to just buy a 9mm barrel to convert a 40 to 9mm. With Glocks you can even use the same magazines. That lets you practice on the cheap and if you have more confidence in 40 caliber can use the same gun with a 1 minute barrel swap