6.8 SPC/110 Accubond in .270?

bamaranger · January 23, 2019, 05:14 AM

Talked to a guy on one of my deer leases last evening who is shooting 110 Gr Nosler Accubonds in his .270, running 3200-3300 fps. . I've loaded some 110 Sierra Pro Hunters for deer, never taken a shot, but they are indeed fast and flat and I feel certain the .270/110 will work on deer .

But the bonded/tipped Nosler would seem an even better choice for this light for caliber load. Anybody shooting this bullet in the .270 for deer or antelope?

Mobuck · January 23, 2019, 07:53 AM

Depending on the actual design parameters, the 6.8 AccuBond may not be as "tough" as other AccuBond bullets. The result may be more like using a Ballistic Tip bullet with the velocities listed.
Really, how much does the guy gain by dropping 20 grains and gaining 100-200 fps?
If the need is real, just step up to the 257WBY with 110 AB and go.

Tallest · January 23, 2019, 03:58 PM

According the Nosler book, the 110 grain Accubond is specked for both 6.8 and 270 Win. What is interesting is that the illustration for the 110 grain and 110 grains in the 6.8 SPC section show a cannelure, while they are depicted as smooth in the 270 Win section. I would say that if you have smooth, 110 grain Accubonds, they should perform just fine at .270 velocities. However, they velocity/weight retention comparisons strongly imply that weight retention falls off significantly when you start making impact above 3K fps.

bamaranger · January 23, 2019, 10:02 PM

I cannot get anywhere near 3000 fps with a .270/130 in my rifle. Handicapped by a 22" barrel, and any ballistic gremlins that haunt it, it typically is slow compared to other rifles with the same loads. My most accurate 130 load, using Nosler Ballistic Tips, is running 2850 fps or something, pretty anemic. Yes, it has killed deer, but it's not 3000 fps either.....all those zeros ya know.

Droppping 20 gr's to a 110 Sierra Pro Hunter, with a very acceptable charge, gives speeds exceeding 3200 fps, and I could run it hotter, but haven't. That's a gain of over 300 fps and I see that as significant. Similar to what a .300 Mag gains on a .308 for example. But I've been a more than a little suspect of the lighter, softer 110 slug. I'm hoping that a bonded Nosler 110 bullet would be tougher.

I was not aware that Nosler may market two different versions (cannelure and non-cannelure) of the .270/110 Accubond, I will look into that more closely.

reynolds357 · January 24, 2019, 05:44 PM

The 85 TSX is an absolute hammer on deer in the 270 Win and WSM.

Tallest · January 25, 2019, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by reynolds357

The 85 TSX is an absolute hammer on deer in the 270 Win and WSM.

I'd be interested to know what kind of velocities with those 85 grain Barnes. Then wound channels, and weight retention as well. It was my understanding that those were intended more for the velocites of 6.8 spc, .277 Wolverine, etc...

reynolds357 · January 25, 2019, 10:44 PM

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I'd be interested to know what kind of velocities with those 85 grain Barnes. Then wound channels, and weight retention as well. It was my understanding that those were intended more for the velocites of 6.8 spc, .277 Wolverine, etc...
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According to Barnes loading manual they are good for medium and non dangerous large game in the .270 Winchester. All I have is the old data for the WSM before it told you what the bullets were good for in that cartridge/weight. I am sure the extra 100 fps is no game changer. It's a hammer in either one. Consistent exits on Whitetails. Massive wound shock channel.
Bumping 4000 in a 26" WSM,

bamaranger · January 27, 2019, 01:35 AM

Lets keep discussion centered on the 110 Accubond please. I've no interest in shooting the all copper Barnes in any weight.

RC20 · January 27, 2019, 05:48 PM

I would call or email Nossler with the velocity and the game size and ranges involved.

At close range it might just blow up due to too high a velocity, so it depends on initial velocity, typical range and what the game size is.

Its an issue with the 6.5s now, long range high velocity high BC bullets that are not suited to 50-200 yard shooting.

Tallest · January 28, 2019, 09:57 AM

FWIW, the Nosler book shows a .30 cal 165 grain accubond retaining 60% weight at 3050 fps. I know it's not quite apples to apples, but it may help get a ball park idea.

But then again, I've heard the Nosler book referred to as "engineered fiction..."

reynolds357 · January 28, 2019, 02:48 PM

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Lets keep discussion centered on the 110 Accubond please. I've no interest in shooting the all copper Barnes in any weight.

Look at the bullet box. It shows their minimum and maximum recommended velocities. I have a few boxes of them, but they are stacked behind my vast supply of Barnes.

The Accubond will survive 3300fps pretty easily, as will about any decent medium game bullet.

ed308 · February 6, 2019, 08:29 PM

The Accubond is deadly on hogs out of my 6.8. My favorite due to accuracy and deadly effects.

std7mag · February 7, 2019, 08:42 AM

From what i'm gathering the 110gr .277 Accubond does have the canalures.

My guess...

It is made knowing it is going to be loaded in the 6.8 SPC, and the platform that cartridge is shot with most, namely a MSR type rifle.

Velocity shows 1,800 fps to "infinite".

Meaning that they know someone is sooner or later going to try it in a 270 Win, 270 WSM, or 270 Weatherby.

I would guess penetration to be on the plus side of good.

Weight retention... If the animal is dead, does it matter?

January 23, 2019, 05:14 AM	#1
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,332	6.8 SPC/110 Accubond in .270? Talked to a guy on one of my deer leases last evening who is shooting 110 Gr Nosler Accubonds in his .270, running 3200-3300 fps. . I've loaded some 110 Sierra Pro Hunters for deer, never taken a shot, but they are indeed fast and flat and I feel certain the .270/110 will work on deer . But the bonded/tipped Nosler would seem an even better choice for this light for caliber load. Anybody shooting this bullet in the .270 for deer or antelope?

January 23, 2019, 03:58 PM	#3
Tallest Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2016 Location: West of the Atlantic Posts: 418	According the Nosler book, the 110 grain Accubond is specked for both 6.8 and 270 Win. What is interesting is that the illustration for the 110 grain and 110 grains in the 6.8 SPC section show a cannelure, while they are depicted as smooth in the 270 Win section. I would say that if you have smooth, 110 grain Accubonds, they should perform just fine at .270 velocities. However, they velocity/weight retention comparisons strongly imply that weight retention falls off significantly when you start making impact above 3K fps. __________________ Matthew "All men are ignorant. The topics of our ignorance may vary, but the nature of the world is that no man may know everything." ~ R Jordan

January 23, 2019, 10:02 PM	#4
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,332	gains and cannelures I cannot get anywhere near 3000 fps with a .270/130 in my rifle. Handicapped by a 22" barrel, and any ballistic gremlins that haunt it, it typically is slow compared to other rifles with the same loads. My most accurate 130 load, using Nosler Ballistic Tips, is running 2850 fps or something, pretty anemic. Yes, it has killed deer, but it's not 3000 fps either.....all those zeros ya know. Droppping 20 gr's to a 110 Sierra Pro Hunter, with a very acceptable charge, gives speeds exceeding 3200 fps, and I could run it hotter, but haven't. That's a gain of over 300 fps and I see that as significant. Similar to what a .300 Mag gains on a .308 for example. But I've been a more than a little suspect of the lighter, softer 110 slug. I'm hoping that a bonded Nosler 110 bullet would be tougher. I was not aware that Nosler may market two different versions (cannelure and non-cannelure) of the .270/110 Accubond, I will look into that more closely.

January 27, 2019, 01:35 AM	#8
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,332	110 Accubond please Lets keep discussion centered on the 110 Accubond please. I've no interest in shooting the all copper Barnes in any weight.

January 27, 2019, 05:48 PM	#9
RC20 Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 7,014	I would call or email Nossler with the velocity and the game size and ranges involved. At close range it might just blow up due to too high a velocity, so it depends on initial velocity, typical range and what the game size is. Its an issue with the 6.5s now, long range high velocity high BC bullets that are not suited to 50-200 yard shooting. __________________ Science and Facts are True whether you believe it or not

January 23, 2019, 07:53 AM	#2
Mobuck Junior member Join Date: February 2, 2010 Posts: 6,846	Depending on the actual design parameters, the 6.8 AccuBond may not be as "tough" as other AccuBond bullets. The result may be more like using a Ballistic Tip bullet with the velocities listed. Really, how much does the guy gain by dropping 20 grains and gaining 100-200 fps? If the need is real, just step up to the 257WBY with 110 AB and go.

January 24, 2019, 05:44 PM	#5
reynolds357 Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2012 Posts: 6,165	The 85 TSX is an absolute hammer on deer in the 270 Win and WSM.

January 28, 2019, 09:57 AM	#10
Tallest Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2016 Location: West of the Atlantic Posts: 418	FWIW, the Nosler book shows a .30 cal 165 grain accubond retaining 60% weight at 3050 fps. I know it's not quite apples to apples, but it may help get a ball park idea. But then again, I've heard the Nosler book referred to as "engineered fiction..." __________________ Matthew "All men are ignorant. The topics of our ignorance may vary, but the nature of the world is that no man may know everything." ~ R Jordan

February 6, 2019, 08:29 PM	#12
ed308 Senior Member Join Date: November 5, 2016 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 1,147	The Accubond is deadly on hogs out of my 6.8. My favorite due to accuracy and deadly effects.

February 7, 2019, 08:42 AM	#13
std7mag Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2013 Location: Central Taxylvania.. Posts: 3,609	From what i'm gathering the 110gr .277 Accubond does have the canalures. My guess... It is made knowing it is going to be loaded in the 6.8 SPC, and the platform that cartridge is shot with most, namely a MSR type rifle. Velocity shows 1,800 fps to "infinite". Meaning that they know someone is sooner or later going to try it in a 270 Win, 270 WSM, or 270 Weatherby. I would guess penetration to be on the plus side of good. Weight retention... If the animal is dead, does it matter? __________________ When our own government declares itself as "tyrannical", where does that leave us??!! "Januarary 6th insurrection". Funny, I didn't see a single piece of rope...