Remington m11 magazine plug question

Tono · November 13, 2015, 11:53 PM

I have a Remington m11/sportsman made in 1939 according to Remington historians. It has a magazine limiter/plug to allow only 2 cartridges and I want to maximize the magazine capacity and eliminate the plug. This gun has all the US military ordnance markings and is in riot gun configuration with an 18" or so barrel. There is no threaded cap on the magazine but there is a T bolt that treads into the end cap on the magazine tube. I can't determine if the end cap is threaded into the magazine tube, welded or friction fit. So if anyone has insight into this issue I sure would appreciate an assist.

DavidAGO · November 14, 2015, 12:11 AM

It is threaded onto the magazine tube, it should unscrew and then the forearm should slide off.

David

**44 AMP** · November 14, 2015, 06:29 AM

Am not familiar with that particular gun, so I can't help you get into the mag, sorry.

I can tell you that in those days, the common magazine plug was a simple hardwood dowel that took up space, limiting the amount the follower could be moved back, and so limiting the amount of rounds that could be loaded.

Normally it comes right out, once you remove the mag end cap.

Good Luck!

T. O'Heir · November 16, 2015, 01:04 PM

There is a mag cap.
Manual is here. Not a really good copy though.
http://stevespages.com/pdf/remington_11.pdf
Decent exploded drawing here.
http://stevespages.com/ipb-remington-11.html

Tono · November 17, 2015, 12:41 PM

I've had the gun apart except for the mag tube, there is no magazine cap. It is a T-bolt that threads into the end of the magazine tub. I've got pictures if anyone wants to see for themselves. This stumped the people at Remington and I agree most schematics I have seen indicate a mag cap that threads over the end of the tube. Wish mine did that.

Goatwhiskers · November 17, 2015, 01:34 PM

The M11 Sportsman had a dedicated 2-shot magazine, the tube is threaded into the receiver. There is no magazine cap in the conventional sense, rather a "bolt" that attaches the barrel in somewhat the same manner as the cap on a standard M11. Not positive but I think that slot on the end was added by "Bubba" somewhere along the line to help unscrew the mag tube. You "may" be able to replace your tube with a standard, but you will also need a barrel with the conventional mag tube ring and a cap. That "T" bolt is a home replacement for the original bolt. GW

Tono · November 17, 2015, 01:51 PM

This shotgun appears to be a legitimate US military owned weapon, with the flaming bomb on both the barrel and the receiver with "US" and "Military Finish" in the correct locations. The serial number falls in the correct range for the WW II military contract and the barrel serial matches the receiver serial. Barrel stamped "cyl" with the proper inspection stamps. I know there are plenty of faked military shotguns out there but having reviewed a real one this appears correct. Would the plug have been added after military use or did the military not care and used it with the plug intact?

bamaranger · November 18, 2015, 05:04 PM

If that gun has a full length barrel instead of a short riot type tube, it may well have been used to train aerial gunners in our bombers. Lots of clay bird shooting done by those guys.

bamaranger · November 18, 2015, 05:05 PM

Okay, just read "in riot configuration."

Sorry

Tono · November 18, 2015, 09:32 PM

Is the bolt/bolt carrier serial numbered to the gun in the M11?

November 13, 2015, 11:53 PM	#1
Tono Junior Member Join Date: November 13, 2015 Posts: 4	Remington m11 magazine plug question I have a Remington m11/sportsman made in 1939 according to Remington historians. It has a magazine limiter/plug to allow only 2 cartridges and I want to maximize the magazine capacity and eliminate the plug. This gun has all the US military ordnance markings and is in riot gun configuration with an 18" or so barrel. There is no threaded cap on the magazine but there is a T bolt that treads into the end cap on the magazine tube. I can't determine if the end cap is threaded into the magazine tube, welded or friction fit. So if anyone has insight into this issue I sure would appreciate an assist.

November 14, 2015, 06:29 AM	#3
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,858	Am not familiar with that particular gun, so I can't help you get into the mag, sorry. I can tell you that in those days, the common magazine plug was a simple hardwood dowel that took up space, limiting the amount the follower could be moved back, and so limiting the amount of rounds that could be loaded. Normally it comes right out, once you remove the mag end cap. Good Luck! __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

November 16, 2015, 01:04 PM	#4
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	There is a mag cap. Manual is here. Not a really good copy though. http://stevespages.com/pdf/remington_11.pdf Decent exploded drawing here. http://stevespages.com/ipb-remington-11.html __________________ Spelling and grammar count!

November 18, 2015, 05:04 PM	#8
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,313	aerial gunners If that gun has a full length barrel instead of a short riot type tube, it may well have been used to train aerial gunners in our bombers. Lots of clay bird shooting done by those guys.

November 18, 2015, 05:05 PM	#9
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,313	oops Okay, just read "in riot configuration." Sorry

November 14, 2015, 12:11 AM	#2
DavidAGO Senior Member Join Date: October 7, 2008 Location: Magnolia, AR Posts: 340	It is threaded onto the magazine tube, it should unscrew and then the forearm should slide off. David

November 17, 2015, 01:34 PM	#6
Goatwhiskers Senior Member Join Date: April 8, 2009 Location: Batchelor, La. Posts: 579	The M11 Sportsman had a dedicated 2-shot magazine, the tube is threaded into the receiver. There is no magazine cap in the conventional sense, rather a "bolt" that attaches the barrel in somewhat the same manner as the cap on a standard M11. Not positive but I think that slot on the end was added by "Bubba" somewhere along the line to help unscrew the mag tube. You "may" be able to replace your tube with a standard, but you will also need a barrel with the conventional mag tube ring and a cap. That "T" bolt is a home replacement for the original bolt. GW

November 17, 2015, 01:51 PM	#7
Tono Junior Member Join Date: November 13, 2015 Posts: 4	This shotgun appears to be a legitimate US military owned weapon, with the flaming bomb on both the barrel and the receiver with "US" and "Military Finish" in the correct locations. The serial number falls in the correct range for the WW II military contract and the barrel serial matches the receiver serial. Barrel stamped "cyl" with the proper inspection stamps. I know there are plenty of faked military shotguns out there but having reviewed a real one this appears correct. Would the plug have been added after military use or did the military not care and used it with the plug intact?

November 18, 2015, 09:32 PM	#10
Tono Junior Member Join Date: November 13, 2015 Posts: 4	Is the bolt/bolt carrier serial numbered to the gun in the M11?