is the FN/FAL still around?

[stuckinthe60s]

thanks , io.

[akinswi]

Originally Posted by stuckinthe60s

back in the glory days of the 7.62NATO, gb use to carry them.
now, I never see them.
anyone still using them or has it been sent into the shadows to die a slow death?

Did Great Britian carry the FAL or the L1A1? isnt one metric the FAL and L1A1 was standard? DSA arms used to have tons of them.

I have owned two and I never did really like any of mine. I felt like the M1A was overall a better rifle in my opinion. I did like the battle sights on the FAL but I like most battle sights with rear peep.

The gas adjustments on the FAL too me was always an interesting feature

[Ignition Override]

akinswi:

Britain (L1A1), Canada (C@?) and “Oz” (L1A1) all had inch-pattern FALs.
But South Africa had metric iirc, using Belgian tooling.

Some Inch components can work with certain Metric components, ie a metric upper receiver often could be used.

As I’m not very knowledgeable, therefore time must be spent on FALfiles.

The Admin W.E.G. published a long list of small Inch-Pattern parts which can not interchange with Metric. Under the L1A1 forum?

If today’s .308 ammo were the same price as 7.62x39 ammo, these rifles would be much more popular and expensive. The “elephant in the room”.

[akinswi]

Yes, I remember some inch mags would not fit my imbel receiver FAL, my DSA Fal never had any issues I cant remember if they made there own receivers or not. But yes 7.62 x51 ammo was really expensive. I used to shoot alot of Southafrican milsurp in mine it was fantastic ammo.

I dont think you were suppose to shot .308 winchester in most of them I could be wrong tho.

I never did always used nato ammo in mine

[smee78]

I had Mark Graham of ARS assemble me a rifle on a DSA receiver and an Imbel parts kit. I finally got all the parts needed to send in another kit for a Para build. I enjoy the 30cal battle rifles, they always bring interest from everyone at the range when I bring one out. I just wish 308 was cheaper these days.

[Ignition Override]

Here is the entire website:
For topics about FALs which are mostly Metric-pattern, go to the "FN" forum.

If you prefer mostly "Inch-pattern" topics, visit the "L1A1..." forum.

https://www.falfiles.com/

In the "FAL facts and Library", click here for a long list stating Whether specific Metric or Inch parts are interchangeable.

This is contributed by the FALfiles' Admin "W.E.G.", who has made 48,000 Posts in the website. He knows his rifles.

https://www.falfiles.com/threads/int...metric.240806/

[Erno86]

Duffys Gun Room has one up for auction --- $3,500 --- on Gunbroker

D.S. Arms Zimbabwe/Rhodesian FAL Rifle

[Ignition Override]

Erno86:
Even novices might have learned that the company (DSA) has used the paint scheme to try to imitate some of the original Rhodesians.

The new, current-production FALs by DSA— in standard black— are priced from about $1,800. You can observe online how to create a Rhodie look. Kinda hard to compete with a $700 AR which hordes of people want their friends to buy.

Aside from that, High ammo prices (and the Hair Sniffer’s economy) seem to be exerting a major influence now on the very Soft, oversaturated market for PTR-91s, M1As, FALs, even AKMs and ARs using much less-expensive ammo etc.

[akinswi]

Not to mention you can buy a Springfield Armory Standard M1A for around the same money and its a vastly more accurate rifle.

So that Doesn’t help the FALS. 13 years ago they were under 1000.00 (FALS) M1AS were around 1600.00

If anyone needs a FAL dust cover with pictanny rail its yours, PM if your interested.

[NEPrepper]

"Right arm of the free world"

probably only used by terrorist cells now

[davidsog]

Current Operators of the FN-FAL:



Current Operators of the M14:

[rickyrick]

Interesting seeing how much overlap in the two maps, I didn’t really expect that.

[Ignition Override]

If you -decide- to accept the fairly heavy trigger of a typical metric FAL (the Aussie L1A1 is better)

not to mention the current price of .308 Plinking ammo, you might find the rifles’ character to be interesting.

I’ll take a reliable FAL with iron sights any day over an AR-15 (with a red dot) only partly because of the more powerful .308 chambering.

[davidsog]

[rickyrick]

From my experience with the demilitarized semi only version that I own; no bump stock is needed, hold it limply enough and try to slowly squeeze off a shot, it’s gonna bump fire haha.
I like that patch, I shouldn’t, but oddly I do.

[Ignition Override]

FALs in action, anyone?
"The Siege of Jadotville": true story. Many of the attackers reportedly were mercenaries.

Netflix. This link is just a marketing poster for the movie.

https://cdn.blackstonepublishing.com...nud-square.jpg

[Ignition Override]

This linked forum is just for the 'Metric-pattern' FALs. So many topics and contributors, plus "Stickies". Many guys are builders.

The FAL specialist gun smith Mark Graham (who recently repaired my "Century L1A1 Sporter") known as "Gunplumber" participates in some discussions.

A separate forum has numerous topics for the "Inch-pattern' (Commonwealth) rifles. The vast majority of people who would be on TheFiringLine probably went to FALfiles years ago.

https://www.falfiles.com/forum/the-fn-files.150/

[davidsog]

FAL with iron sights

Iron sights are highly under-rated. We did the same mission without optics for half of my career. They take more training but are just as fast when used properly. Training with Irons is much more useful too as irons will highlight any shooter flaws for you.

[stuckinthe60s]

dealing with fn's reminds me of cabby's in cuba trying to keep their american cars running. lol.

[Ignition Override]

stuckinthe60s: Good sense of humor you have. But any problem can be resolved by the best pros, such as Mark Graham of ARS;------ this is for any lurkers' benefit.------

Mark Graham's charge, to me, was quite reasonable. His twenty five years of FAL experience corrects any operating issues, checks/& if needed corrects headspace (or builds an Entire rifle from a Complete parts kit you send him...), test fires the FAL, sends you the Test Target.

Because the popularity of his work, the turnaround time was three months. Go to somebody far Less experienced and you might be waiting six months to a year.

Here is some random feedback about him and one other specialist FAL gun smith :

https://www.falfiles.com/threads/who...uilder.480965/

[davidsog]

Mark Graham's

He has a great reputation. He was at Regiment when I was in B co. 1/75th.

[Ignition Override]

davidsog:

Exactly. Mark’s insistence on in-spec, correct work even inspired some improvements with rifles manufactured by DSA. His discoveries of flaws in their Older upper receivers etc (and shoddy magazines) has caused them numerous embarrassments; and years ago their bad press by Mark resulted in a physical threat, or the suggestion of a threat, by a DSA manager.

And he knows a Ranger who climbed Pointe Du Hoc in Normandy and withstood German attacks for three days with very limited ammo.

My family took a tour of Normandy.

[davidsog]

You meet some remarkable people in the service.

[Ignition Override]

My third FAL, an "ARS" StG on Imbel, built by Mark Graham should ship in a few days.

There is another "ARS" build on the Marketplace of FALfiles: "Imbel on Coonan".
MG never used an inferior upper receiver. The only reason I didn't consider it is because I already have an Imbel FAL.

The seller "packingvol", who lives in east TN, has documentation to verify who assembled & tested his.

[radom]

Here I have a L1a1 on a imbal receiver all BSA parts but the receiver and also a springfield M1a that is all winchester out of the receiver and my idea is the M-14 clone is worth being a tomato stake.