Percussion Cap Question

DennisCA · February 5, 2014, 12:35 AM

As you know, I recently acquired a traditions 50 cal muzzle loading pistol and I am in the process of buying some accessories. I have a chance to buy some primers and powder. He has some #11 and #10 percussions caps.
I know I can use the #11 caps but what about #10's - GTG?

Quentin2 · February 5, 2014, 12:48 AM

If a #11 cap fits then a Remington #10 should too. The CCI #10 probably will be too tight.

DD4lifeusmc · February 5, 2014, 10:26 AM

Don't know for sure on your pistol.
Some single shot pistols and rifles over the years have come with #10 sized nipples other #11.
You will need to try both to get a confirmation of which fits best.
Also cap makers seem to be a little loose on their tolerances from brand to brand and even production runs.

Old Stony · February 5, 2014, 11:03 AM

Your number 11's will fit on the Traditions.

Kappe · February 5, 2014, 11:24 AM

There's a chart floating somewhere around here about this. Lemme fetch it.

I found this pretty useful. If you try one kind of cap and find them to be too tight or too loose, you can deduce what might work better from this chart.

Pahoo · February 5, 2014, 01:48 PM

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Some single shot pistols and rifles over the years have come with #10 sized nipples other #11.

Good advice and even though it's likely to be a #11, you still need to verify. The last Traditions I had, took a #11 but I do have a Kentuckian that prefers a #10. ....

By the way, Traditions would send you a manual or you can go on line and download one. ....

Be Safe !!!

B.L.E. · February 5, 2014, 10:25 PM

Most #10 nipples are usually found on revolvers. I'll bet it takes 11's, if not, you can pinch the caps to make them stay on the nipple until you get some #10 caps or just buy a different nipple.

horseman308 · February 9, 2014, 08:47 AM

Also, you will likely replace the nipple at some point; either from shooting/burning out the one on it or just to try a different size (bigger hole for faster/easier ignition, for example).

Hawg · February 9, 2014, 09:03 AM

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or just to try a different size (bigger hole for faster/easier ignition, for example).

You don't want a bigger hole, too much blowback.

**4V50 Gary** · February 9, 2014, 09:42 AM

Great chart Kappe. Thank you.

enyaw · February 9, 2014, 11:11 AM

I've gone with the tightest caps I could find and then if too tight on the nipple I would size the cone to get a good snug slip on fit.
I'd put the nipple in a drill or drill press or mill drill chuck and spin the nipple while stoning the cone. Stone,check fit,stone,check fit,stone, check fit...ect.ect.ect.

swathdiver · February 11, 2014, 03:40 PM

Buy all the caps you can get your hands on, regardless of whether they fit your one pistol or not.

Beagle333 · February 11, 2014, 09:55 PM

^^^^^^ This!!!!

I'd run a mile barefoot over broken glass to find a bud with a pile of #10 caps!!!!!

(these days!

)

51colt · February 13, 2014, 03:33 AM

They Make nipples for black powder rifles that take #10 CCI caps. Years a go i was given two bricks of CCI #10 caps. I found a stainless nipple that took #10 CCI caps that fit my CVA rifle i still have it in one of my BP boxes. You could always turn down a nipple on a drill or drill press.
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ZVP · February 14, 2014, 02:15 AM

I've tried all the major brands of caps to fit my revolvers right!
RWS are too soft and fragment ( that's if they stay on the nipples?), CCI are to thick and hard to squeeze closed for a fit on the nipples.
The best I have found are the Remington #11's! They fit down over the nipples and squeeze pretty easy to secure holding for a whole cylinderfull of shooting!
I tried their #10 but they won't go all the way down onthe nipples and fall off somtimes.
No matter what you do, you get sore fingers at the end of the day and still had a few fall off...
I'm sticking withthe Remington #11's because of the best preformance yet!
I don't know how the oldtimers kept em on???
They bet their lives on them and had to have some sure fire way to hold em in place!
I even wondered about scoring the nipples longitudinly ro provide rings for the squeezed on cap to grab onto.
I looked at some Teso Nipples and they are smooth and shiney. Is that ehat makes a cap hold on?
A guy at the Club has a drilled set of needlenose that he drilled to crimp the cap ti just the right size, The trouble is that there is no taler to the squeeze and he finishes the rest with his fingers. Pretty cool! I don't have a drill press ot drills that could drill tool steel.
I love everything about BP except Capping!
Maybe someday I;ll get my fingers toughened up enough for an all day BP session! Till then I go about 1/3 da and "wince' for the rest of the day!
Dosen't seem to matter, Uberti or Piettia nipples you still need to squeeze em down!
OK it's been about 2 1/2 years Blackpowder shooting for me! What's thetrick?

Thanks
BPDave

February 5, 2014, 10:26 AM	#3
DD4lifeusmc Senior Member Join Date: October 12, 2012 Location: Wyoming Posts: 351	caps Don't know for sure on your pistol. Some single shot pistols and rifles over the years have come with #10 sized nipples other #11. You will need to try both to get a confirmation of which fits best. Also cap makers seem to be a little loose on their tolerances from brand to brand and even production runs.

February 5, 2014, 10:25 PM	#7
B.L.E. Senior Member Join Date: December 20, 2008 Location: Somewhere on the Southern shore of Lake Travis, TX Posts: 2,603	Most #10 nipples are usually found on revolvers. I'll bet it takes 11's, if not, you can pinch the caps to make them stay on the nipple until you get some #10 caps or just buy a different nipple. __________________ Hanlon's Razor "Do not invoke conspiracy as explanation when ignorance and incompetence will suffice, as conspiracy implies intelligence and organization."

February 9, 2014, 08:47 AM	#8
horseman308 Senior Member Join Date: November 3, 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 526	Also, you will likely replace the nipple at some point; either from shooting/burning out the one on it or just to try a different size (bigger hole for faster/easier ignition, for example). __________________ You only take one shot at a time - make it count.

February 11, 2014, 09:55 PM	#13
Beagle333 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2012 Location: Auburn, AL. Posts: 2,332	^^^^^^ This!!!! I'd run a mile barefoot over broken glass to find a bud with a pile of #10 caps!!!!! (these days!) __________________ . . . Have a Colt and a smile.

February 14, 2014, 02:15 AM	#15
ZVP Senior Member Join Date: June 20, 2009 Posts: 1,102	Drives me nuts too! I've tried all the major brands of caps to fit my revolvers right! RWS are too soft and fragment ( that's if they stay on the nipples?), CCI are to thick and hard to squeeze closed for a fit on the nipples. The best I have found are the Remington #11's! They fit down over the nipples and squeeze pretty easy to secure holding for a whole cylinderfull of shooting! I tried their #10 but they won't go all the way down onthe nipples and fall off somtimes. No matter what you do, you get sore fingers at the end of the day and still had a few fall off... I'm sticking withthe Remington #11's because of the best preformance yet! I don't know how the oldtimers kept em on??? They bet their lives on them and had to have some sure fire way to hold em in place! I even wondered about scoring the nipples longitudinly ro provide rings for the squeezed on cap to grab onto. I looked at some Teso Nipples and they are smooth and shiney. Is that ehat makes a cap hold on? A guy at the Club has a drilled set of needlenose that he drilled to crimp the cap ti just the right size, The trouble is that there is no taler to the squeeze and he finishes the rest with his fingers. Pretty cool! I don't have a drill press ot drills that could drill tool steel. I love everything about BP except Capping! Maybe someday I;ll get my fingers toughened up enough for an all day BP session! Till then I go about 1/3 da and "wince' for the rest of the day! Dosen't seem to matter, Uberti or Piettia nipples you still need to squeeze em down! OK it's been about 2 1/2 years Blackpowder shooting for me! What's thetrick? Thanks BPDave

February 5, 2014, 12:35 AM	#1
DennisCA Senior Member Join Date: June 3, 2012 Location: Union City CA (a.k.a. Poople's Republik of CA) Posts: 451	Percussion Cap Question As you know, I recently acquired a traditions 50 cal muzzle loading pistol and I am in the process of buying some accessories. I have a chance to buy some primers and powder. He has some #11 and #10 percussions caps. I know I can use the #11 caps but what about #10's - GTG?

February 5, 2014, 12:48 AM	#2
Quentin2 Senior Member Join Date: June 18, 2009 Location: NorthWest USA Posts: 1,996	If a #11 cap fits then a Remington #10 should too. The CCI #10 probably will be too tight.

February 5, 2014, 11:03 AM	#4
Old Stony Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 2013 Location: East Texas Posts: 1,705	Your number 11's will fit on the Traditions.

February 5, 2014, 11:24 AM	#5
Kappe Senior Member Join Date: May 28, 2013 Location: New Jersey Posts: 149	There's a chart floating somewhere around here about this. Lemme fetch it. I found this pretty useful. If you try one kind of cap and find them to be too tight or too loose, you can deduce what might work better from this chart.

February 9, 2014, 09:42 AM	#10
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,848	Great chart Kappe. Thank you. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

February 9, 2014, 11:11 AM	#11
enyaw Senior Member Join Date: November 28, 2008 Posts: 134	I've gone with the tightest caps I could find and then if too tight on the nipple I would size the cone to get a good snug slip on fit. I'd put the nipple in a drill or drill press or mill drill chuck and spin the nipple while stoning the cone. Stone,check fit,stone,check fit,stone, check fit...ect.ect.ect.

February 11, 2014, 03:40 PM	#12
swathdiver Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2012 Location: Treasure Coast, Florida Posts: 335	Buy all the caps you can get your hands on, regardless of whether they fit your one pistol or not.

February 13, 2014, 03:33 AM	#14
51colt Member Join Date: December 3, 2008 Posts: 50	They Make nipples for black powder rifles that take #10 CCI caps. Years a go i was given two bricks of CCI #10 caps. I found a stainless nipple that took #10 CCI caps that fit my CVA rifle i still have it in one of my BP boxes. You could always turn down a nipple on a drill or drill press. 51