Original Colt revolver on gunbroker

maillemaker · February 19, 2014, 09:20 PM

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=394883254

Just passing this along - the pictures are cool if nothing else. I have no connection to this.

Steve

RJay · February 19, 2014, 10:57 PM

Odd that, a couple of the serial numbers look as if they have been tampered with?

RodTheWrench · February 19, 2014, 11:12 PM

It's not like they had a laser engraver or a pneumatic number stamp back then. I don't see anything wrong with the serials.

Fingers McGee · February 19, 2014, 11:39 PM

And, in case you hadn't noticed, it's a 6 shot, not a 5 shot .31

DoubleDeuce 1 · February 20, 2014, 12:51 AM

The cylinder does not appear to have the same amount, or any of the surface deterioration as the rest of the revolver. It could be lighting or camera angles, but that's what it looks like to me. Just thinking.

RJay · February 20, 2014, 08:17 AM

Look very close at pictures number 11 and 12. No# 12 looks to be over stamped or even altered, the 4 in picture 11 has two fonts. The long arm of the 4 is deep, how did that happen on a standard stamping, even a hand stamp. Could be correct, but with all the honest people selling on the internet I would want a very close look at the revolver before purchasing. Colt revolvers are one of the most counterfeited and altered guns.

**4V50 Gary** · February 20, 2014, 08:27 AM

Rebuilt gun with newer parts? The overstamping on serial numbers and the clean unpitted exterior of cylinder compared to the rest of the gun should raise eyebrows.

bedbugbilly · February 20, 2014, 12:49 PM

One thing to remember is that numbers were hand stamped - it's not unusual for the numbers to not be in a straight line, tilted, etc. As far as strike-overs - I wouldn't imagine that to be too uncommon either. That's not to say that things can't be "tampered with" in later years - just don't judge originals by what you see on reproductions - two different worlds.

maillemaker · February 20, 2014, 03:46 PM

I have no idea if the thing is really all "matching numbers" or not. I just thought it was neat to see a "real" old Colt in its box.

Steve

g.willikers · February 20, 2014, 04:04 PM

It looks inviting, but apparently no one is bidding.
Might be a clue, there.
Or maybe trying to judge whether a gun is a genuine antique just by internet pictures is a real bad idea.

Driftwood Johnson · February 20, 2014, 06:59 PM

Howdy

As has already been stated, guns were hand stamped back then. The different numbers and letters were mounted in a tool and the tool was struck with a hammer. This could easily result in the numbers being out of line. The idea was to smack the tool sharply with one blow. But if one didn't do it just right, the stamp and the hammer could bounce resulting in a double strike. That's what happened here, I do not suspect foul play.

Captchee · February 20, 2014, 07:09 PM

i would agree , i dont see any laser engraving , just stamp and roll.

Fingers McGee · February 20, 2014, 07:58 PM

Quote:

It looks inviting, but apparently no one is bidding.

Probably because they're asking too much for it.

Hawg · February 20, 2014, 08:27 PM

Not a bad old original but even with the accessories its way too much money for it.

February 19, 2014, 09:20 PM	#1
maillemaker Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2010 Posts: 1,635	Original Colt revolver on gunbroker http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=394883254 Just passing this along - the pictures are cool if nothing else. I have no connection to this. Steve

February 19, 2014, 10:57 PM	#2
RJay Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2005 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,936	Odd that, a couple of the serial numbers look as if they have been tampered with? __________________ Ron James

February 19, 2014, 11:12 PM	#3
RodTheWrench Senior Member Join Date: April 24, 2013 Location: Utah Posts: 365	It's not like they had a laser engraver or a pneumatic number stamp back then. I don't see anything wrong with the serials. __________________ "Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid." - Han Solo

February 19, 2014, 11:39 PM	#4
Fingers McGee Senior Member Join Date: March 19, 2008 Location: High & Dry in Missouri Ozarks Posts: 2,113	And, in case you hadn't noticed, it's a 6 shot, not a 5 shot .31 __________________ Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee - AKA Man of Many Colts - Alter ego of Diabolical Ken; SASS Regulator 28564-L-TG; Rangemaster and stage writer extraordinaire; Frontiersman, Pistoleer, NRA Endowment Life, NMLRA, SAF, CCRKBA, STORM 327, SV115; Charter member, Central Ozarks Western Shooters Cynic: A blackguard whose faulty vision see things as they are, not as they should be. Ambrose Bierce

February 20, 2014, 08:17 AM	#6
RJay Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2005 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,936	Look very close at pictures number 11 and 12. No# 12 looks to be over stamped or even altered, the 4 in picture 11 has two fonts. The long arm of the 4 is deep, how did that happen on a standard stamping, even a hand stamp. Could be correct, but with all the honest people selling on the internet I would want a very close look at the revolver before purchasing. Colt revolvers are one of the most counterfeited and altered guns. __________________ Ron James Last edited by RJay; February 20, 2014 at 08:27 AM.

February 20, 2014, 12:51 AM	#5
DoubleDeuce 1 Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2013 Posts: 101	The cylinder does not appear to have the same amount, or any of the surface deterioration as the rest of the revolver. It could be lighting or camera angles, but that's what it looks like to me. Just thinking.

February 20, 2014, 08:27 AM	#7
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,848	Rebuilt gun with newer parts? The overstamping on serial numbers and the clean unpitted exterior of cylinder compared to the rest of the gun should raise eyebrows. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

February 20, 2014, 12:49 PM	#8
bedbugbilly Senior Member Join Date: November 19, 2009 Posts: 3,287	One thing to remember is that numbers were hand stamped - it's not unusual for the numbers to not be in a straight line, tilted, etc. As far as strike-overs - I wouldn't imagine that to be too uncommon either. That's not to say that things can't be "tampered with" in later years - just don't judge originals by what you see on reproductions - two different worlds. __________________ If a pair of '51 Navies were good enough for Billy Hickok, then a single Navy on my right hip is good enough for me . . . besides . . . I'm probably only half as good as he was anyways. Hiram's Rangers Badge #63

February 20, 2014, 03:46 PM	#9
maillemaker Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2010 Posts: 1,635	I have no idea if the thing is really all "matching numbers" or not. I just thought it was neat to see a "real" old Colt in its box. Steve

February 20, 2014, 04:04 PM	#10
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	It looks inviting, but apparently no one is bidding. Might be a clue, there. Or maybe trying to judge whether a gun is a genuine antique just by internet pictures is a real bad idea. __________________ Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez: “Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.”

February 20, 2014, 06:59 PM	#11
Driftwood Johnson Senior Member Join Date: January 3, 2014 Location: Land of the Pilgrims Posts: 2,033	Howdy As has already been stated, guns were hand stamped back then. The different numbers and letters were mounted in a tool and the tool was struck with a hammer. This could easily result in the numbers being out of line. The idea was to smack the tool sharply with one blow. But if one didn't do it just right, the stamp and the hammer could bounce resulting in a double strike. That's what happened here, I do not suspect foul play.

February 20, 2014, 07:09 PM	#12
Captchee Senior Member Join Date: April 2, 2013 Posts: 439	i would agree , i dont see any laser engraving , just stamp and roll.

February 20, 2014, 08:27 PM	#14
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,190	Not a bad old original but even with the accessories its way too much money for it.