S&W 1854 PCC

[Pathfinder45]

Hellcat1; your pictures are worth a thousand words....each! That's a nice rifle!
Gawd, I need to sleep tonight.....

[Hellcat1]

Originally Posted by Pathfinder45

Hellcat1; your pictures are worth a thousand words....each! That's a nice rifle!
Gawd, I need to sleep tonight.....

Haha! Thanks!

I must admit, I have very little will power, and occasionally some disposable income, so sometimes I also find myself lying awake at night thinking about something I "need" to help me sleep better. This rifle was actually one of those things. Yes, I could have taken some Unisom, instead, but what fun is that?!?


Frank

[5whiskey]

I just don't see how it can compete with this...

https://www.guns.com/firearms/rifles...-new?p=1156132

I dunno maybe I'm out there. No way I'm buying a brand new designed plastic stock lever for nearly 50% more than I would a wood and steel Henry. I'm with Bama, I predict a short production run. I don't think there's a ton of people in the new lever gun market that wants mlok mounting points on the stock, and are willing to pay a premium for it over a more traditional designed American made rifle. Like I said, maybe I'm wrong.

Edit: my link is to a 30-30 side gate, not really apples to apples. Still found one in .44 that is $300 less than that Smith

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1024275282?pid=730982

[taylorce1]

Maybe a short lifespan, maybe not. It's not hard to push a Henry to $1100+, just add a large loop lever and octagon barrel or make it out of stainless steel. If you get deluxe walnut on your Henry you're pushing $1800.

If you want the S&W stainless synthetic lever, I'd say it's priced at what the market says they cost. Considering a Taylors 1892 or Chiappa 1892 stainless rifles are over $1500. That puts the S&W in the midrange price point without going as cheap as Rossi, of which there have been numerous discussions on lately as well.

[5whiskey]

And to add, I know that there are "different strokes" and all. Read a pretty lengthy thread on AR15.com about the modern "tactical" levers and there are some folks all into them. While I don't see the appeal, I suppose others do. I still question whether there are enough of those others that are really interested in a "tactical" lever rifle. Maybe if it's CA, IL, or NY approved. I suppose I would consider something like the SW Lever before playing with 10 round fixed mag bullet button ARs.

[rock185]

Certainly interesting, a lever action rifle from S&W. I like some of the features, i.e., stainless, curved grip & large loop, both side gate and mag tube loading, etc. I wish S&W well with their new rifle. I don't hunt or compete, so the PCC carbines are just enjoyable recreational plinkers for me.

I recently handled the new Marlin .357, the steel Henry .357 and the Rossi blue and stainless .357 carbines. All good looking guns, especially the Marlin and Henry. I didn't get to work the action on the Marlin, but both Rossi and the Henry functioned smoothly. The Marlin was $1299, the Henry $1085, the blue Rossi $725, the stainless $745.

[Pumpkin]

From what I have seen of the new Marlins, there is absolutely no way I would consider the S&W. I am by no means a Ruger fan boy (Old Dude) and in reality own more Smiths than Ruger or Marlins.
I do have an original S&W 77A .22 cal pellet rifle, and it does have a lever. Maybe their original lever gun

[Rifletom]

Well, Hellcat1 certainly got it right. No fuss, no muss; just a damn nice lever rifle.

[Hellcat1]

Originally Posted by Rifletom

Well, Hellcat1 certainly got it right. No fuss, no muss; just a damn nice lever rifle.

Thanks, Tom!


Frank

[Adventurer 2]

I own a Henry Big Boy X in 44 magnum. A "Tactical" lever action. I mounted pic rail and Trijicon MRO and plan to get a suppressor. I see some similarities between it and the new S&W -- I really enjoy my Henry and believe I would also enjoy the new S&W.

[Drm50]

I’ve sold off all my post war Marlins except a Marauder 30/30. I couldn’t turn down the offers. The newest was a late 70s 39M. I kept all my prewar Marlin & Win lever guns. I
may be hallucinating but these old Marlins don’t bring the prices that the JM Marlins from late 40s to Marlin closing. The pre crossbolt safety is small consideration now, compared to new guns. I’m 73 and I can’t abide the guns they are making today. The only reason the quality has fallen with prices going up is demand. There are more people that are willing
to pay more for less. Also younger crowd that doesn’t realize what a quality gun is. These new guns made with hi tech and modern materials have about as much character as an aluminum ball bat. A wood stock is just a stock ball bat.

[Dashunde]

I bought one, here's my thoughts...
I took it straight to the dirt pit and put 100 Underwood's 245gr FMJ through it without a single issue. The action is smooth enough for the money, the trigger is good, I didn't notice the trigger wiggle at all, the non-precision bead-n-ring sights seem to be spot on, its heavier than my previous levers but this thick barreled Smith gets less than half as hot and has half the (felt) recoil, it was just as accurate at round 99 as it was at 1, and nothing rattled loose.
It's a keeper.

All of that is in stark contrast to my other levers with thin walled barrels. I've found that 20 and 30 cal are fine, but 40 cal's get thin walls, get real hot, and start walking off target pretty quick.. not this S&W.

I'll probably put a scope on it just to see what it'll do, but it doesn't need an optic as a general woods/atv gun. As it is, if the bead is on the target and is somewhere in the center of the ring its going to hit. Goodenuff.

My one and only complaint about it is don't take that mag tube out for unloading because the front ring will disturb the bead blasted finish on the tube.

[Pumpkin]

Dmr50,
Amen brother!
Honestly, it’s probably saving me money not finding any new stuff that appeals to me which under current conditions is quite okay.