Varget = ? - Page 2

Ifishsum · February 24, 2020, 11:29 AM

Another vote for Reloder15, and I've always been able to find it when Varget goes MIA as it seems prone to do every few years. Even though I have Varget now I've continued using RE15 for most of my .223 loading.

IMR4064 is a good one but the longer grains make it somewhat of a PITA for small cases like .223

**Unclenick** · February 24, 2020, 04:59 PM

Hodgdon's relative burn rate chart disagrees with ADI about RL15's position relative to AR2208 (Varget). These disagreements are common because the relative burn rates are determined with different cartridges and conditions and lots of powder by the different makers. But the interesting thing I note about Hodgdon's chart is that Varget has the oft-forgotten IMR powder, 4320, right next to it. So there's another potential candidate. And its grains are shorter than 4064.

Dufus · February 24, 2020, 09:58 PM

I agree that IMR 4320 is excellent in 308 Win. I don't load 223 Rem so I can't vouch for that caliber.

reynolds357 · February 28, 2020, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by std7mag

Varget is equal to, well Varget.
RL15 is gonna be your closest performing substitute.

Imr 4320 is indeed VERY close.

Kram · March 9, 2020, 05:55 PM

lol at Bass Pro Shop, they'll take your money and keep pushing back shipping. I live 5 miles from a store and never go there, such a lousy place.

**Unclenick** · March 10, 2020, 09:59 AM

It probably means their warehouse didn't have it in stock when you ordered it three weeks ago and is waiting for it to come in. Annoying that they couldn't or didn't check that for you up-front and let you know the delay would be indefinite.

308Loader · March 12, 2020, 04:43 PM

IMR4064 and IMR4895 have served me very well in 223/556 and 308WIN.

Kram · March 25, 2020, 09:29 PM

It just gets better. They finally shipped my Varget to the Rancho store, arrived today and ready for pickup........which is close for the kung flu

February 24, 2020, 04:59 PM	#27
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,063	Hodgdon's relative burn rate chart disagrees with ADI about RL15's position relative to AR2208 (Varget). These disagreements are common because the relative burn rates are determined with different cartridges and conditions and lots of powder by the different makers. But the interesting thing I note about Hodgdon's chart is that Varget has the oft-forgotten IMR powder, 4320, right next to it. So there's another potential candidate. And its grains are shorter than 4064. __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle

March 10, 2020, 09:59 AM	#31
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,063	It probably means their warehouse didn't have it in stock when you ordered it three weeks ago and is waiting for it to come in. Annoying that they couldn't or didn't check that for you up-front and let you know the delay would be indefinite. __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle

March 12, 2020, 04:43 PM	#32
308Loader Senior Member Join Date: August 24, 2014 Location: Minnesota Posts: 639	IMR4064 and IMR4895 have served me very well in 223/556 and 308WIN. __________________ Just a dude with stuff.

February 24, 2020, 11:29 AM	#26
Ifishsum Senior Member Join Date: September 15, 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,033	Another vote for Reloder15, and I've always been able to find it when Varget goes MIA as it seems prone to do every few years. Even though I have Varget now I've continued using RE15 for most of my .223 loading. IMR4064 is a good one but the longer grains make it somewhat of a PITA for small cases like .223

February 24, 2020, 09:58 PM	#28
Dufus Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2014 Posts: 1,965	I agree that IMR 4320 is excellent in 308 Win. I don't load 223 Rem so I can't vouch for that caliber.

March 9, 2020, 05:55 PM	#30
Kram Member Join Date: January 5, 2019 Posts: 70	lol at Bass Pro Shop, they'll take your money and keep pushing back shipping. I live 5 miles from a store and never go there, such a lousy place.

March 25, 2020, 09:29 PM	#33
Kram Member Join Date: January 5, 2019 Posts: 70	It just gets better. They finally shipped my Varget to the Rancho store, arrived today and ready for pickup........which is close for the kung flu