Taylor's Brand black powder revolvers

Hdonly · January 5, 2024, 03:47 PM

I am looking at a Taylor's brand 1858 Remington Steel 5.5" .44. I am not familiar with them and am curious about their quality. Any thoughts appreciated.

Hawg · January 5, 2024, 03:56 PM

Taylors doesn't make anything, they're an importer. It's either Uberti or Pietta. That one appears to be Pietta.

Hdonly · January 5, 2024, 08:11 PM

I was wondering about that. That's why they only show one side of it.

Hawg · January 5, 2024, 08:49 PM

Uberti models are usually more period correct than Pietta. Altho some of them aren't. I don't think Uberti makes one with a barrel that short.

Hdonly · January 5, 2024, 08:55 PM

What about quality of Pietta vs Uberti?

Hawg · January 5, 2024, 09:38 PM

These days about the same. Uberti might be a little better finished and the grips aren't fat overgrown apes like Pietta. Uberti also doesn't have billboards on the barrels like Pietta does. Pietta is usually a good bit cheaper than Uberti but I don't know about the ones from Taylors.

**Aguila Blanca** · January 6, 2024, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Hdonly

What about quality of Pietta vs Uberti?

I've owned both. Never examined any of them with a magnifying glass. They all worked as intended. I consider them to be equal in quality.

Hdonly · January 6, 2024, 07:48 AM

I ended up ordering this Pietta 1858 New Army .44

44caliberkid · January 6, 2024, 07:30 PM

You will be happy with it.

**Aguila Blanca** · January 6, 2024, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hdonly

I ended up ordering this Pietta 1858 New Army .44

Looks just like the one I had many years ago. I'm sure you'll be happy with it.

RC20 · January 8, 2024, 10:53 PM

I have a Pietta NMA Target (more hunting than target sights). Its been an interesting work in progress.

The Rammer is shaped wrong, I profiled the end of it so it drove both balls and conicals without mushing them.

Cones would not hold Remington or CCI Number 11 Caps (seems 10s are rare), I could pinch Caps or get the SlixSprings Cones which I did. If you do go with the longer of the two choices, I had to grind the hammer stop back to get to fire but doing fine. As the gun has no value so I am modifying it as needed (the front sight was raised to bring the POI down).

Cylinders are a lot less than Uberti and I got two extra.

.454 balls do created a band, less than .457 but wide enough (my opinion). .147 roughly vs .250.

No timing issues or any other function type.

The .457 balls were 100 fps slower, I will keep playing with it to find which one is more accurate.

Hdonly · January 12, 2024, 12:12 PM

The gun showed up yesterday. Finish looks really good and the action feels good. Now I need to dig out my black powder stuff and make some noise.

**Aguila Blanca** · January 13, 2024, 01:12 AM

Looks good. I think you'll enjoy shooting it.

January 8, 2024, 10:53 PM	#11
RC20 Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 7,014	I have a Pietta NMA Target (more hunting than target sights). Its been an interesting work in progress. The Rammer is shaped wrong, I profiled the end of it so it drove both balls and conicals without mushing them. Cones would not hold Remington or CCI Number 11 Caps (seems 10s are rare), I could pinch Caps or get the SlixSprings Cones which I did. If you do go with the longer of the two choices, I had to grind the hammer stop back to get to fire but doing fine. As the gun has no value so I am modifying it as needed (the front sight was raised to bring the POI down). Cylinders are a lot less than Uberti and I got two extra. .454 balls do created a band, less than .457 but wide enough (my opinion). .147 roughly vs .250. No timing issues or any other function type. The .457 balls were 100 fps slower, I will keep playing with it to find which one is more accurate. __________________ Science and Facts are True whether you believe it or not

January 13, 2024, 01:12 AM	#13
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,477	Looks good. I think you'll enjoy shooting it. __________________ NRA Life Member / Certified Instructor NRA Chief RSO / CMP RSO 1911 Certified Armorer Jeepaholic

January 5, 2024, 03:56 PM	#2
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,190	Taylors doesn't make anything, they're an importer. It's either Uberti or Pietta. That one appears to be Pietta.

January 5, 2024, 08:11 PM	#3
Hdonly Senior Member Join Date: January 5, 2013 Posts: 340	I was wondering about that. That's why they only show one side of it.

January 5, 2024, 08:49 PM	#4
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,190	Uberti models are usually more period correct than Pietta. Altho some of them aren't. I don't think Uberti makes one with a barrel that short.

January 5, 2024, 08:55 PM	#5
Hdonly Senior Member Join Date: January 5, 2013 Posts: 340	What about quality of Pietta vs Uberti?

January 5, 2024, 09:38 PM	#6
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,190	These days about the same. Uberti might be a little better finished and the grips aren't fat overgrown apes like Pietta. Uberti also doesn't have billboards on the barrels like Pietta does. Pietta is usually a good bit cheaper than Uberti but I don't know about the ones from Taylors.

January 6, 2024, 07:30 PM	#9
44caliberkid Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2017 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,104	You will be happy with it.