Range Report: coated cast bullets in polygonal rifling = success!

MEATSAW · November 28, 2014, 08:37 PM

Well I'm happy to report that over the last week or so I've put a few hundred SNS Casting's coated cast 180gr bullets through my polygonal rifled H&K P2000 with great success. Absolutely no lead fouling was detected and cleaning the barrel was ridiculously easy. My velocity at 5yds for my load is right around 800 fps using Ramshot Competition powder. Great load with low recoil, good accuracy, and now it's super clean to shoot.

I can't speak for all polygonal rifled guns but they work flawless in mine. If you have been avoiding shooting lead in your polygonal bores as I have been I strongly suggest you give it a try. Way cheaper than even plated bullets. And zero metal fouling. Awesome!

Shotgun Slim · November 29, 2014, 09:13 AM

Congrats on success. Were you by chance using their new .40 cal 180 coated bullet with no lube groove. I have tried the new 165 and it shoots great,but when I last ordered the new 180 wasn't out yet. My barrels are not polygonal rifled but I have sworn off lead now in favor of coated. It leaves the barrels so easy to clean and there is no handling raw lead for reloading.Good stuff.

MEATSAW · November 29, 2014, 11:20 AM

Good question, I was using the new one with no lube groove.

In fact I have used the no lube groove bullets in 9mm, .40, and .45 and they all are excellent.

Not sure what the difference is between the Hi-tek Super Coating (used by SNS and Bayou Bullets) and actual powder coating (if there is any), but I am eager to see where the technology takes us. Hopefully they'll start pioneering rifle bullets. I would love some low recoil coated cast loads for my .308 and .280!

Jim Watson · November 29, 2014, 11:34 AM

Missouri Bullets is coating rifle bullets.
.30s will be getting common because of the cheapskates and their Lego BOs.
If you want a coated .280, you will probably have to do it yourself.

MEATSAW · November 29, 2014, 06:48 PM

Lego BOs? It doesn't sound nice. I hope I'm not one.

Jim Watson · November 29, 2014, 07:17 PM

Legogun = home built AR.
BO = .300 Black Out.

tangolima · November 29, 2014, 07:43 PM

I just ordered samples of thier coated 165gr 0.309", together with samples of other calibers. I am going to try them on reduced load 30-06. Was tempted to order their 235gr for BO. But the shipping charge jumped, so I will leave it for next time.

-TL

MEATSAW · November 30, 2014, 10:50 PM

The Missouri Bullets look good, and they appear to use a more advanced HiTek coating. I'd be very interested in how they perform for you TL.

Thanks for the explanation Jim. I don't have a Lego BO. Yet.

I do think coated bullets will revolutionize the industry. No metal fouling from shooting is a fantastic advancement. The no exposed lead benefits are almost just as good!

tangolima · December 1, 2014, 09:47 AM

Sure thing. I will post updates. I wish they make 0.312" bullets, so that I can feed them to my SKS and smles.

-TL

Hammerhead · December 1, 2014, 02:03 PM

Thanks for the report.

Most curious about the .45 calibers, which .45 bullet did you use what pistol?

I'm looking closely at the SNS 200 no groove SWC for my HK45C. It looks like it has a nice sharp shoulder and the price is right.

MEATSAW · December 1, 2014, 02:29 PM

TL look at their offerings for 32-20 and 32-40. I thought I remember seeing a .312". I could be wrong.

Hammerhead, in .45 all I have ever shot is the SNS 230gr RN with no lube groove. It's ran perfect in a S&W1911 and a Glock 30. I am also thinking about trying the 200gr SWC.

tangolima · December 1, 2014, 06:43 PM

Unfortunately those are 0.321" in diameter.

-TL

MEATSAW · December 1, 2014, 08:45 PM

Oh bummer, I see they make them just not in the coated variety yet. Email them!

tangolima · December 1, 2014, 11:50 PM

Yes I saw those. But they are for pistol. The lead alloy is too soft for rifle. I tried one version of it from other company, with gas check, in my SKS. It did alright, but not great. I didn't continue as the gas checked cast bullets were not check, just slightly cheaper than jacketed bullets.

-TL

BTW just got the bullet samples in the mail. They look good, although not as pretty as plated bullets. Can't wait to load them up. But will have to do the other calibers first. Urgency and priority dictate.

November 28, 2014, 08:37 PM	#1
MEATSAW Senior Member Join Date: May 1, 2009 Location: Burnet, TX Posts: 727	Range Report: coated cast bullets in polygonal rifling = success! Well I'm happy to report that over the last week or so I've put a few hundred SNS Casting's coated cast 180gr bullets through my polygonal rifled H&K P2000 with great success. Absolutely no lead fouling was detected and cleaning the barrel was ridiculously easy. My velocity at 5yds for my load is right around 800 fps using Ramshot Competition powder. Great load with low recoil, good accuracy, and now it's super clean to shoot. I can't speak for all polygonal rifled guns but they work flawless in mine. If you have been avoiding shooting lead in your polygonal bores as I have been I strongly suggest you give it a try. Way cheaper than even plated bullets. And zero metal fouling. Awesome! __________________ Veteran OEF (2002) and OIF1 (2003) - US Army Member of the Burnet Gun Fighters, Inc. and of course the NRA Oregon State University alum -- Go Beavs!

November 29, 2014, 11:20 AM	#3
MEATSAW Senior Member Join Date: May 1, 2009 Location: Burnet, TX Posts: 727	Good question, I was using the new one with no lube groove. In fact I have used the no lube groove bullets in 9mm, .40, and .45 and they all are excellent. Not sure what the difference is between the Hi-tek Super Coating (used by SNS and Bayou Bullets) and actual powder coating (if there is any), but I am eager to see where the technology takes us. Hopefully they'll start pioneering rifle bullets. I would love some low recoil coated cast loads for my .308 and .280! __________________ Veteran OEF (2002) and OIF1 (2003) - US Army Member of the Burnet Gun Fighters, Inc. and of course the NRA Oregon State University alum -- Go Beavs!

November 29, 2014, 06:48 PM	#5
MEATSAW Senior Member Join Date: May 1, 2009 Location: Burnet, TX Posts: 727	Lego BOs? It doesn't sound nice. I hope I'm not one. __________________ Veteran OEF (2002) and OIF1 (2003) - US Army Member of the Burnet Gun Fighters, Inc. and of course the NRA Oregon State University alum -- Go Beavs!

November 30, 2014, 10:50 PM	#8
MEATSAW Senior Member Join Date: May 1, 2009 Location: Burnet, TX Posts: 727	The Missouri Bullets look good, and they appear to use a more advanced HiTek coating. I'd be very interested in how they perform for you TL. Thanks for the explanation Jim. I don't have a Lego BO. Yet. I do think coated bullets will revolutionize the industry. No metal fouling from shooting is a fantastic advancement. The no exposed lead benefits are almost just as good! __________________ Veteran OEF (2002) and OIF1 (2003) - US Army Member of the Burnet Gun Fighters, Inc. and of course the NRA Oregon State University alum -- Go Beavs!

December 1, 2014, 02:29 PM	#11
MEATSAW Senior Member Join Date: May 1, 2009 Location: Burnet, TX Posts: 727	TL look at their offerings for 32-20 and 32-40. I thought I remember seeing a .312". I could be wrong. Hammerhead, in .45 all I have ever shot is the SNS 230gr RN with no lube groove. It's ran perfect in a S&W1911 and a Glock 30. I am also thinking about trying the 200gr SWC. __________________ Veteran OEF (2002) and OIF1 (2003) - US Army Member of the Burnet Gun Fighters, Inc. and of course the NRA Oregon State University alum -- Go Beavs!

November 29, 2014, 09:13 AM	#2
Shotgun Slim Senior Member Join Date: March 9, 2014 Location: Va Posts: 291	Congrats on success. Were you by chance using their new .40 cal 180 coated bullet with no lube groove. I have tried the new 165 and it shoots great,but when I last ordered the new 180 wasn't out yet. My barrels are not polygonal rifled but I have sworn off lead now in favor of coated. It leaves the barrels so easy to clean and there is no handling raw lead for reloading.Good stuff.

November 29, 2014, 11:34 AM	#4
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,546	Missouri Bullets is coating rifle bullets. .30s will be getting common because of the cheapskates and their Lego BOs. If you want a coated .280, you will probably have to do it yourself.

November 29, 2014, 07:17 PM	#6
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,546	Legogun = home built AR. BO = .300 Black Out.

November 29, 2014, 07:43 PM	#7
tangolima Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2013 Posts: 3,835	I just ordered samples of thier coated 165gr 0.309", together with samples of other calibers. I am going to try them on reduced load 30-06. Was tempted to order their 235gr for BO. But the shipping charge jumped, so I will leave it for next time. -TL

December 1, 2014, 09:47 AM	#9
tangolima Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2013 Posts: 3,835	Sure thing. I will post updates. I wish they make 0.312" bullets, so that I can feed them to my SKS and smles. -TL

December 1, 2014, 02:03 PM	#10
Hammerhead Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,432	Thanks for the report. Most curious about the .45 calibers, which .45 bullet did you use what pistol? I'm looking closely at the SNS 200 no groove SWC for my HK45C. It looks like it has a nice sharp shoulder and the price is right.

December 1, 2014, 06:43 PM	#12
tangolima Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2013 Posts: 3,835	Unfortunately those are 0.321" in diameter. -TL

December 1, 2014, 08:45 PM	#13
MEATSAW Senior Member Join Date: May 1, 2009 Location: Burnet, TX Posts: 727	Oh bummer, I see they make them just not in the coated variety yet. Email them! __________________ Veteran OEF (2002) and OIF1 (2003) - US Army Member of the Burnet Gun Fighters, Inc. and of course the NRA Oregon State University alum -- Go Beavs!

December 1, 2014, 11:50 PM	#14
tangolima Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2013 Posts: 3,835	Yes I saw those. But they are for pistol. The lead alloy is too soft for rifle. I tried one version of it from other company, with gas check, in my SKS. It did alright, but not great. I didn't continue as the gas checked cast bullets were not check, just slightly cheaper than jacketed bullets. -TL BTW just got the bullet samples in the mail. They look good, although not as pretty as plated bullets. Can't wait to load them up. But will have to do the other calibers first. Urgency and priority dictate. Last edited by tangolima; December 1, 2014 at 11:55 PM.