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January 7, 2021, 01:50 AM | #26 |
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I didn't see any sign that the pro-Trump looters had firearms - some seemed to have sticks. Apparently a long gun was found on the Capitol grounds. The woman that died seems to have been shot by law enforcement inside the Capitol.
All things being equal, the police showed a lot of restraint, considering the US Capitol was stormed by force - the first time since 1814. In slightly different circumstances, there would have been a lot of dead bodies. |
January 7, 2021, 06:28 AM | #27 |
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"We'll have to see what results, of course, one side is already almost foaming at the mouth and no doubt will push as hard as they can while the outrage is fresh."(44AMP)
ALL of us should be upset over what happened. This goes beyond politics. It was insurrection. Imagine if that was ANTIFA or BLM members who had breached and violated our Congressional halls... who would "foam at the mouth" then? We ALL should foam at the mouth... especially those of us who belong to the supposed party of Law and Order. We are a nation of LAWS. We are better than this. Last edited by shurshot; January 7, 2021 at 06:33 AM. |
January 7, 2021, 06:47 AM | #28 |
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Both NY City and Washington DC are not places I am about to go, anytime soon!
Because I can not carry my Glock 19. And looking at the riotous behaviour practised by these people, not being armed would make no sense. So never going there, made lots of sense, to me. A good place to live, this Florida. |
January 7, 2021, 07:52 AM | #29 |
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The protestors showed a lot of restraint. Look at Minneapolis, Chicago, Portland.....
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January 7, 2021, 09:03 AM | #30 |
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January 7, 2021, 10:34 AM | #31 | |
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He also stated he would never even think of carrying in New England because of their gun laws
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January 7, 2021, 11:55 AM | #33 |
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Please explain to me how you can get to Vermont New Hampshire and Maine without going through New Jersey or New York State
Yes I should also added Massachusetts
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January 7, 2021, 12:13 PM | #34 | |
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In practical terms, it may come down to, "You may beat the rap, but you can't beat the ride." Which means he might be arrested and have to win in court, and I can understand preferring not to become a test case.
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January 7, 2021, 12:47 PM | #35 | |
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January 7, 2021, 01:08 PM | #36 | |
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What went on at the Capitol yesterday was deplorable. We should all be upset about it, and I have the same opinion about not respecting the rule of law no matter which side of the political spectrum it comes from. Both sides have let slip their fanatics this past year, to the detriment of us all.
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January 7, 2021, 01:23 PM | #37 |
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Anyone passing through NJ or NY should be protected by FOPA, but the gun has to be unloaded and in a locked case.
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January 7, 2021, 05:08 PM | #38 | |
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ME, NH, and VT all have constitutional carry. I get that MA is part of New England (New York and New Jersey are not part of New England btw) but I can’t help but roll my eyes at the number of times I’ve read this exact blanket comment about how New England has strict gun laws when it’s obvious the people making these comments don’t really know how diverse even New England is when it comes to gun laws. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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https://www.maine.gov/dps/msp/sites/...%20Summary.pdf http://legislature.maine.gov/statute...12sec1803.html http://legislature.maine.gov/statute...e12sec756.html
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January 7, 2021, 06:35 PM | #40 | |
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If that meets your definition of a state whose carry laws are so restrictive that you wouldn’t bother carrying there, then more power to you. As far as I’m concerned the remark to which I was responding is still a typical exaggeration caused by a stereotype that people don’t bother to investigate. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Last edited by TunnelRat; January 7, 2021 at 08:23 PM. |
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January 7, 2021, 08:21 PM | #41 |
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Truth be told, there are likely FAR more guns in the State of Maine than there are people. Laws are very lax up here... and it's one of the safest States in the USA. Very low crime rates. Funny how that works.
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Lots of people imagine New England as a vast expansion of the gun politics they see in several Northeastern states. It's just not the case. |
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Maine is a big tourist state -- tourism is a major contributor to the state's economy. People go to Maine for a variety of reasons, but parks are a major draw: Acadia National Park, Baxter State Park (Mount Katahdin, the northern end of the Appalachian Trail), the Allagash Wilderness Waterway -- all of these draw large numbers of visitors to Maine every year. To carry legally in any of those -- as well as any number of other state parks around Maine -- you need a Maine carry permit. It happens that Acadia National Park used to be one of my favorite vacation destinations. For both financial as well as scheduling reasons I haven't been there in several years, but I obtained a Maine permit specifically so that I can be legal if I visit Acadia again in the future. Quote:
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January 7, 2021, 10:27 PM | #44 |
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Last I knew, you couldn't carry firearms in Baxter State Park even with a permit. No guns allowed... period.
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January 8, 2021, 12:40 AM | #45 |
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How about pipe bombs? Those were found.
How about, now FIVE people have died from this attempted insurrection/coup by domestic terrorists. The latest was a Capitol policeman who died from his injuries... |
January 8, 2021, 01:16 AM | #46 |
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Some of these people who stormed the building are now posting video's on social media.
Interviews with the protesters by other protesters.. Great way to make the FBI's job a lot easier.. Stupid is as stupid does I guess. I'm uncomfortable with the media calling it an insurrection as these people didn't have guns. They broke a couple windows, beat their chests, and gave their best battle cry.. but beyond that, it seems to me it was just a run of the mill riot with a bit of property destruction. They didn't try to burn the place down, rape women, or anything like that. I think anyone who entered that building should be charged with the appropriate crime and go to prison, but the punishment should fit the crime, not be amped up because of the building it took place in or the over dramatization of those affected. Most of these protestors seem to be doing the wrong thing for what they ignorantly thought was the right reason. Now I'm worried about my own weapons. When one political party or the other has control of the House, Senate, and the White House, bad things tend to happen. |
January 8, 2021, 01:28 AM | #47 |
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I’m going to be viewed as a traitor to gun rights, but I’ll say it. This hopefully will all end in 12 days now. I, for one, am glad. I do wish that the GA elections would have turned out differently, but I personally feel we have our commander in chief to thank for that as well.
I’m not going to say trump is responsible for what happens at the capital building. He didn’t in any specific terms call for that. But he was more than pleased there was a protest in DC that day, and was probably quite pleased his fans adored him enough to commit to civil disobedience. Unfortunately, storming the capital building is not just a simple act of civil disobedience... I like some (heck probably even most) of his policies, hated his Twitter, and now I’m just done with him. I will forever believe we have DJT and his antics the past month to thank for the pro gun control party holding all the reigns of power to make laws.
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January 8, 2021, 02:15 AM | #49 |
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I believe that it is harmful to gun rights to have a pro-2nd amendment leader that otherwise exhibits alarming character defects and scandalous behavior. Those who value the right to keep and bear arms cannot afford to have someone disgraceful to lead their cause.
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January 8, 2021, 03:53 AM | #50 |
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This protest didn't go so well. Things happened that shouldn't have.
The fundamental question of this thread has been answered. I'm going to close this because it's likely to go off-topic at this point.
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