Fit/Finish of Stoeger Coachguns

Georgian · July 28, 2016, 07:56 PM

Hey yall, about 8 years back I stumbled upon a Stoeger Coachgun Supreme in nickel finish used at a gunstore, and happily picked it up. I sold it a number of years ago to finance another firearm. I remember it being a solid, nicely finished double, and recently decided to purchase another. Instead of going all nickel again, I decided to go with the two tone, stainless receiver/blued barrel. I purchased it through Buds Gun Shop, and it was delivered yesterday to my local dealer. Upon stopping by the shop this morning, I discovered what should have been a new gun, didn't look so new. The forend showed dings/scratches, etc. as well as the stock. The latch on the forend was sticky and did not want to lock up.

The stock/recoil pad was not mated properly, and I could pull the recoil pad away from the stock with ease. The tip of the barrel had several dings near the choke. I contacted Buds, explained the situation and they are sending a replacement. Oddly enough, I asked if they inspect the guns before shipping, to which I was told they did not. I did advised the customer service rep to have someone inspect the next firearm before shipment. Has anyone else seen this kind of shoddy work from Stoeger or was this just a lemon that no one caught?

Virginian · July 29, 2016, 08:42 AM

Sounds a bit rougher than usual, but Stoegers are budget guns, not collectibles.
Most big dealers like Bud's never open the box, they just ship them.

Georgian · July 29, 2016, 08:49 AM

Actually, this isn't the base coachgun. The Coachgun Supreme is touted as having AA-Grade Walnut stocks, recoil pad, choke tubes, etc. So this isn't just the plain jane version.

T. O'Heir · July 29, 2016, 02:15 PM

Most big mail order dealers like Bud's never see the box. Ships directly from a warehouse. Might be Bud's, might be Stoeger's. Stoeger is just the importer anyway. Chances are they didn't see the box either. This World Economy stuff is wonderful. Kudo's to Bud's just the same.
Beat up like that it may have been a shop floor demo. Either way, a Coach Gun Supreme is still an entry level SXS. MSRP is just $549. Same as every other Coach Gun. Including the Plain Jane black hardwood stocked gun.

FITASC · July 29, 2016, 03:48 PM

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The Coachgun Supreme is touted as having AA-Grade Walnut stocks, recoil pad, choke tubes, etc. So this isn't just the plain jane version.

Still doesn't even put it in the category of a CZ, and they're nothing to write home about either.
Stoeger, WAY back in the old days, used to bring in high-end stuff, just like Charles Daly - not any more. Stoeger is the low-end price point stuff from the Beretta Group.

krunchnik · July 30, 2016, 09:20 PM

I have a Stoeger Condor and the only misfit in the shotgun is as you say also-the buttpad is not quite fit properly.The rest of the shotgun although is not representative of the buttpad.

drobs · July 31, 2016, 01:44 AM

Georgian,

Below Stoeger tuning videos were recommended to me in another thread by member mannyCA. Nothing in the videos looks all that hard to do. The result will be a nice slicked up action / gun.

https://youtu.be/FrtBEi1csOA
https://youtu.be/HQPp0aykE4A

A Stoeger SXS is on my list to be purchases in this next year.

natman · August 1, 2016, 09:53 PM

Stoegers have the same problem all of the cheap double guns have - it takes a lot of extra work to make one function properly and too many corners have to be cut to meet a price. Even the best are somewhat crudely made and finished and QA is minimal at best. This makes the odds of getting one with problems much higher than with a double that costs enough to be well made with proper QA.

My advice is to get a good pump until you can save enough for a Browning or a Beretta.

Bill DeShivs · August 2, 2016, 12:08 AM

No dealers have guns shipped to customers from a warehouse!

The gun has to physically be at the dealer's place of business, and entered into their records by law.

Virginian · August 2, 2016, 07:45 AM

Stoegers are budget guns, but the ones with double triggers and extractors are quite popular on cowboy shooting, and are pretty robust. For those who do not know, cowboy shooting is hell for guns. Rough handling, dropped on tables or in barrels, yanked open, slammed shut, rapid firing. They are not a Purdey, but they don't claim to be, either. I had one and it never bobbled. I shot some doves and quail with it when I first got it just to get a little used to it, and it worked. But, the single trigger and ejector guns have legions of detractors due to problems.

Model12Win · August 2, 2016, 08:52 PM

After some tune work, they are well regard to be good CAS and SASS shotguns.

If they're good enough for those rough riders, it'll be good enough for you.

July 28, 2016, 07:56 PM	#1
Georgian Senior Member Join Date: October 12, 2004 Location: SE Georgia Posts: 208	Fit/Finish of Stoeger Coachguns Hey yall, about 8 years back I stumbled upon a Stoeger Coachgun Supreme in nickel finish used at a gunstore, and happily picked it up. I sold it a number of years ago to finance another firearm. I remember it being a solid, nicely finished double, and recently decided to purchase another. Instead of going all nickel again, I decided to go with the two tone, stainless receiver/blued barrel. I purchased it through Buds Gun Shop, and it was delivered yesterday to my local dealer. Upon stopping by the shop this morning, I discovered what should have been a new gun, didn't look so new. The forend showed dings/scratches, etc. as well as the stock. The latch on the forend was sticky and did not want to lock up. The stock/recoil pad was not mated properly, and I could pull the recoil pad away from the stock with ease. The tip of the barrel had several dings near the choke. I contacted Buds, explained the situation and they are sending a replacement. Oddly enough, I asked if they inspect the guns before shipping, to which I was told they did not. I did advised the customer service rep to have someone inspect the next firearm before shipment. Has anyone else seen this kind of shoddy work from Stoeger or was this just a lemon that no one caught? __________________ ~"Speak softly and carry a big stick"~T. Roosevelt God Bless

July 29, 2016, 08:42 AM	#2
Virginian Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2012 Location: Williamsburg, Va. Posts: 1,528	Sounds a bit rougher than usual, but Stoegers are budget guns, not collectibles. Most big dealers like Bud's never open the box, they just ship them. __________________ What could have happened... did.

July 29, 2016, 08:49 AM	#3
Georgian Senior Member Join Date: October 12, 2004 Location: SE Georgia Posts: 208	Actually, this isn't the base coachgun. The Coachgun Supreme is touted as having AA-Grade Walnut stocks, recoil pad, choke tubes, etc. So this isn't just the plain jane version. __________________ ~"Speak softly and carry a big stick"~T. Roosevelt God Bless

July 30, 2016, 09:20 PM	#6
krunchnik Senior Member Join Date: October 27, 2010 Location: Lakeland,TN Posts: 225	I have a Stoeger Condor and the only misfit in the shotgun is as you say also-the buttpad is not quite fit properly.The rest of the shotgun although is not representative of the buttpad. __________________ THE CROW

July 31, 2016, 01:44 AM	#7
drobs Senior Member Join Date: July 17, 2015 Location: South Central MO / Africa Posts: 1,111	Georgian, Below Stoeger tuning videos were recommended to me in another thread by member mannyCA. Nothing in the videos looks all that hard to do. The result will be a nice slicked up action / gun. https://youtu.be/FrtBEi1csOA https://youtu.be/HQPp0aykE4A A Stoeger SXS is on my list to be purchases in this next year. __________________ NRA Life Member

July 29, 2016, 02:15 PM	#4
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	Most big mail order dealers like Bud's never see the box. Ships directly from a warehouse. Might be Bud's, might be Stoeger's. Stoeger is just the importer anyway. Chances are they didn't see the box either. This World Economy stuff is wonderful. Kudo's to Bud's just the same. Beat up like that it may have been a shop floor demo. Either way, a Coach Gun Supreme is still an entry level SXS. MSRP is just $549. Same as every other Coach Gun. Including the Plain Jane black hardwood stocked gun.

August 1, 2016, 09:53 PM	#8
natman Senior Member Join Date: June 25, 2008 Posts: 2,681	Stoegers have the same problem all of the cheap double guns have - it takes a lot of extra work to make one function properly and too many corners have to be cut to meet a price. Even the best are somewhat crudely made and finished and QA is minimal at best. This makes the odds of getting one with problems much higher than with a double that costs enough to be well made with proper QA. My advice is to get a good pump until you can save enough for a Browning or a Beretta.

August 2, 2016, 12:08 AM	#9
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 11,109	No dealers have guns shipped to customers from a warehouse! The gun has to physically be at the dealer's place of business, and entered into their records by law. __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com

August 2, 2016, 07:45 AM	#10
Virginian Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2012 Location: Williamsburg, Va. Posts: 1,528	Stoegers are budget guns, but the ones with double triggers and extractors are quite popular on cowboy shooting, and are pretty robust. For those who do not know, cowboy shooting is hell for guns. Rough handling, dropped on tables or in barrels, yanked open, slammed shut, rapid firing. They are not a Purdey, but they don't claim to be, either. I had one and it never bobbled. I shot some doves and quail with it when I first got it just to get a little used to it, and it worked. But, the single trigger and ejector guns have legions of detractors due to problems. __________________ What could have happened... did.

August 2, 2016, 08:52 PM	#11
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	After some tune work, they are well regard to be good CAS and SASS shotguns. If they're good enough for those rough riders, it'll be good enough for you.