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Old February 8, 2010, 09:23 PM   #1
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Help dating old UMC cartridge box

I recently acquired an old UMC .44-40 cartridge box (see attached photos). Can anyone help date it?

I know UMC started offering this cartridge shortly after Winchester came out with the Model 1873. But I suspect this one is newer because of the references to Marlin, Savage, Remington, and Stevens on the bottom.




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Old February 8, 2010, 09:30 PM   #2
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If you will post these photos and question to the International Ammunition Assoc. forum they are quite knowledgable.
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Old February 9, 2010, 10:33 PM   #3
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If you will post these photos and question to the International Ammunition Assoc. forum they are quite knowledgable.
Thanks. That's just what I have done. If I get an answer, I'll post it back here just to complete the thread for future readers.
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Old October 13, 2021, 07:55 AM   #4
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Any chance you still have this box? On the bottom, left side and upside down, it looks like there is an ink stamp code.
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Old October 14, 2021, 08:58 AM   #5
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This was posted over a decade ago, and the OP hasn't been on in a decade, so no real sense in reviving it, but it is interesting, so there we are.

The box is definitely pre-1912, which is when Remington Arms purchased UMC.

The mention of Savage rifles is somewhat odd... I THINK that the Model 1892 was designed in .44-40, but it was never marketed and only a few examples were manufactured by Colt, but that would date the box to post 1892, with Savage as a manufacturer being established in 1894-95.

My guess, given that central-fire is hypenated, is that this box was first decade of the 20th century.
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