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I obviously do not have the details of your set up. Range is usually the factor I run into that makes elevation changes necessary, not where on a target I'm shooting.
You might try seeing what happens with either inhaling or letting out a bit more breath and watch where your sights go.
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Aim small miss small, if you focus your aim on a small part of your target, you have a better chance of hitting it. Buddy of mine practices by using 1/4 - 1/3 MOA dots for targets, all the way out to 1000 yards. Swears it helps
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Smaller dots do help to a point. Matching the reticle to the power to the distance is part of it. The rest is mental, trigger control and fundamentals.
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I think I've burned about a thousand rounds of 22lr in the past couple of weeks--so no way I'm having any fun.
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The 30 point dot is smaller than the 22 point dot. That's why it's worth 8 points more.
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Keep in mind that 22 rimfire ammo made since 1980 is not as accurate as earlier stuff.
An explosion at Lapua's factory killing a few dozen resulted in Eley being tasked to develop a safer primer for all European plants to use. The new compound was safer but ammo was less accurate and wore out barrels faster. https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j...DqlbeG5hmdIZHW https://forum.accurateshooter.com/th...4031871/page-4 Last edited by Bart B.; July 25, 2021 at 11:06 AM. |
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Plant explosion happen 45yrs ago. Guess it helps talk about good old days.
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The second article is pretty interesting--I take a look at my bore after each outing and pull cartridges from the chamber every now and then--I find evidence of lead chunks adhering to the throat every time. I'm not sure it's exclusively the bolt and feeding itself that does it; I think it's possibly the "stickiness" of the bullet sealing to the throat that strips some from the bullet.
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If they are so much better, why aren't they equaling or breaking records set before 1980?
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I would have to get the stuff analyzed to learn what it is. It's probably the lubricant.
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Even Eley seems to be doing okay...
January 26th, 2014 12.4 mm for 40 Shots at 50m — New Record at Eley Test Center Two new 50m rimfire 40-shot group size records were set last week at the Eley test range in Fellback (Stuttgart), Germany. This range employs an electronic target system that automatically calculates shot placement with great precision. The rifles are secured in clamping fixtures during testing. On January 21st, a new 13.2 mm record was set, follow by an even-better 12.4 mm record (that’s 0.488″). The previous record was 13.3 mm set in 2007. Before we go further, we need to explain how these 40-shot records are determined. The record is not 40 shots fired in one single, continuous string at a single target. Instead the record is based on the software-calculated “consolidated” group size of four, separate 10-shot groups. Software at the Eley test range is capable of over-laying four, 10-shot groups so they appear as one large “consolidated” group. These “consolidated” 40-shot group overlays have been recognized as new records. |
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Every 10th bullet, lubricate with a drop of Rem oil. I don't shoot those into groups since they will be flyers. Eliminates the need to sort and maintains a more consistent weight and rifling engagement. In most of my rimfires, it keeps them cleaner and more accurate. Also, if every rimfire shooter did this, the only proper use for RemOil would become common knowledge. ![]() |
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The lube has some benefit...but in handling, we move it around and make it inconsistent, which degrades the BC and accuracy. Some also form a gooey varnish in chambers and gum up magazines.
Dry lubes/coatings are better for rimfire, but they cost more. |
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Of course benchrest records are broken. Every once in a while is a statistical anomaly. The group size extremes increase and decrease. Smallest ones are statistically luck. As are the largest ones. It's not nice to reveal the largest groups fired in benchrest matches. Last edited by Bart B.; July 26, 2021 at 12:24 PM. |
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