My NEW Beretta 92s

[WVsig]

Well I picked up my new to me 92S. It looks like it has never been fired. The barrel shows no wear. There is a small amount of wear on the slide release/slide stop lever but only on the left side. It is only in the finish. Looks like it might have been caused by not enough storage lube. Other than that the gun looks 100% NIB. The little bit of wear in that part does not bother me since the gun was bought to be shot and it will wear anyway with shooting.

Gun has BU date code stamp which makes is 2004. The wear in the slide stop/slide release lever leads me to believe that these we in storage and proofed in 2004 but not made in 2004.

The gun has the larger hammer pin and the 92FS channel in the slide. Here are a few pics...

[carguychris]

WVsig, what differentiates the 92FS channel, and do you know what generation of locking block the gun has?

I'm a bit of a n00b as it comes to 92's.

[EDIT TO ADD] Do you believe that the little "MP" marking on the LH side of the slide by the word "PARABELLUM" was applied by PW Arms, or do you think it's a pre-existing Italian marking? I ask because the lettering appears electropenciled, but does not appear to match the import mark, at least not superficially.

[WVsig]

[EDIT TO ADD] Do you believe that the little "MP" marking on the LH side of the slide by the word "PARABELLUM" was applied by PW Arms, or do you think it's a pre-existing Italian marking? I ask because the lettering appears electropenciled, but does not appear to match the import mark, at least not superficially.

I agree it was done by PW arms but I have not confirmed it.

You can see the channel difference in this pic: Beretta came up with using a larger head hammer pin and a channel cut in the slide to clear it in normal operation. If the slide does separate, the back half (the part that can be otherwise blown off) now would run into the head of the hammer pin and remain on the frame.



I was able to pop off about 25 rounds in my backyard range and the gun ran 100% It has a typical Beretta DA pull and SA was clean. According to my digital trigger pull scale the DA is over 12lbs and the SA is about 5.3 on a avg of 5 pulls. I will be ordering a D spring for mine.

[Grunt96]

Originally Posted by ninjarealist

Would the D Spring make the trigger puller heavier or lighter?

I have to stay that the stock trigger feels scary light to me. The SA feels well under 3.5 lbs and the DA feels like it's less than 10 lbs which is lighter than I would prefer.

So if the D Spring lightens the trigger pull, then I think I'll pass because the stock trigger feels a bit too light already.

It lightens the DA pull by about 4 lbs, and lightens the SA very little (maybe 1/2 lb)

[ninjarealist]

@WVSig Thanks for the beautiful pics. Looks like you got the pick of the litter.

[mavracer]

If you want a new looking one don't order from Bud's just picked mine up and while the interior is nice and new looking and it has what appears to be a new barrel and locking block, it has a lot of blue wear. I'm ok with it as I just wanted a 92 for the collection, I doubt I shoot more than a box thru it and it'll look right in line with my other euro trash.

[LynnTX]

WVsig,
Your photos are impressive. I know the average guy cannot do such justice to that good looking gun. Do you use a large light diffusion box to get that soft light look you achieved? I salute your photo skills sir. I also think that is a nice handgun at a bargain-basement price.

LynnTX

[WVsig]

@WVSig

I found that very interesting too. I guess this gun might have an older frame that's prone to problems after all then? And the locking block is probably equally problematic?

With that being said, I find it really cool that these are guns that have essentially been in storage since the 80's only to be modified and re-stored again in the late 90's early 2000's. I'm really attracted to guns with this type of history. Could the fact that these guns were made in the 80's have anything to do with the trigger feeling so nice?

Thanks for the compliment. I am really not that good a photographer just like I am not that great a shooter. I do ok but real professionals do much better. I shot these pictures in a homemade light box. It is made our of PVC pipe and some clamp lights with daylight bulbs. I use different color paper board for backgrounds. Total cost is about $20-$25. IIRC. Here is something similar to what I built.

http://www.pbase.com/wlhuber/light_box_light_tent


Back to the good part.... These 92s are a bit of a mystery. Even over at the Beretta forum there is more speculation than fact. Looking at the finish and the metal my uneducated guess is that these were made in the 80s and proofed at different times later in their life. I cannot imagine that they would have run such small number of discontinued pistols 20+ years after they ceased regular production but who really knows.

The trigger on my guns is excellent. I really like it and am looking to get D spring into it ASAP. Will report back about its effects on the trigger.

[LynnTX]

WVsig,

I am so glad you posted about your 92s. I got one on order from Dan's before he sold out. I paid the little extra for the collectors grade he offered.
I picked it up from my FFL dealer this afternoon.

When I took it out of the box, I was a little stunned. Although I had seen some nice photos, I did not want to assume mine would be that nice. Well it exceeded my expectations. As far as I can tell, it looks "new" to me. I am going to clean it now - dripping with oil !

I will try to take some pics tomorrow when I have time.
Feels like Christmas came early this year.

Regards,
Lynn

[WVsig]

WVsig,

I am so glad you posted about your 92s. I got one on order from Dan's before he sold out. I paid the little extra for the collectors grade he offered.
I picked it up from my FFL dealer this afternoon.

When I took it out of the box, I was a little stunned. Although I had seen some nice photos, I did not want to assume mine would be that nice. Well it exceeded my expectations. As far as I can tell, it looks "new" to me. I am going to clean it now - dripping with oil !

I will try to take some pics tomorrow when I have time.
Feels like Christmas came early this year.

Regards,
Lynn

I am glad that so many people were able to get some of the 92s from Dan's Ammo. Dan is an excellent seller and offers excellent deals on "import" and surplus guns. He is very accurate with his grading. If it says excellent you get an excellent gun. I trust him and I am glad he came through for so many members. I hope everyone enjoys their 92s as much as I am enjoying mine!

I will also throw out there that he has great prices on ammo as well.

[WVsig]

madmo44mag got lucky lots of people are reporting the guns they received from SOG are less than excellent.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=765906

Takes note.

[LynnTX]

WVsig,
I cleaned my gun and went to a nearby indoor range. I just could not wait to try it out. Well it ran flawlessly. I used a couple of brands of standard 9mm FMJ. Fired almost 100 rounds and the gun ran flawlessly. The single action trigger was excellent and and the reset is pretty much instantaneous.

Cleaned the gun again after the range trip. Looks beautiful. The take-down is nicely simple so it is easy to clean.

I also fired several mags through my Ruger Mark II .22 with 4" bull barrel . The Ruger is still deadly accurate. It has the same black bluing look as the Beretta. I couldn't get the same tight groups with the Beretta but they were certainly good enough to be effective.

[LockedBreech]

Mine is perfect, as I mentioned in the other thread, but interestingly both the front and rear sights are fixed, low-pro GI style sights, not 3-dot, and the safety isn't ambidextrous. Was that standard for the 92S?

Spent a lot of this evening toying with it. Came with a stainless guide rod and I got the third-gen locking block and plunger installed. Still marveling that I walked away for $336 shipped for this beauty + $40 for the current-gen locking block. My best gun buy ever. My 2013, current-production Italian 92FS cost me $550-560 when all was said and done.

[AustinTX]

Mine is perfect, as I mentioned in the other thread, but interestingly both the front and rear sights are fixed, low-pro GI style sights, not 3-dot, and the safety isn't ambidextrous. Was that standard for the 92S?

LB, those features are indeed historically "correct" for the 92S.

[madmo44mag]

SOG has got another shipment in for less money it looks like
They are not advertised like new but excellent with minor finish wear and very good with some finish wear.
The second level is priced at 279.00.

[WVsig]

SOG has got another shipment in for less money it looks like
They are not advertised like new but excellent with minor finish wear and very good with some finish wear.
The second level is priced at 279.00.

From what I understand they just changed the description and lowered the price because they were getting some complaints.

You can add $10 for a hand select and $20 for a excellent finished gun.

[AustinTX]

If any of you who bought these pistols want additional historically "correct," factory-original 92S mags, they're on sale at the site below for $25/ea, which is an excellent price. They're usually hard to come by, and they sell for a lot more than that.

The site says the sale will go on for 72 hours, but unless I'm missing something obvious, it doesn't say when the sale started. So if you want them at this price, you have somewhere between one second and ~71.5 hours to buy them.

https://apexgunparts.com/product_inf...oducts_id/1679

[madmo44mag]

Based on what I have been reading I guess I was lucky getting such a nice 92 from SOG.
There have been a few times ordering from SOG that the [color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color]y Old Guns did come to mind but for the most part I can't complain about SOG they have always made things right with me.
SOG is one of those companies that some times have hidden gems and the other times run of the mill stuff. Kinda ht and miss with them.

[LynnTX]

I would like to add that the magazines from Midway that were posted on this forum worked excellent in my 92S. My handgun just came with one Beretta mag so I ordered 2 from Midway while I was waiting for it to arrive. I got them same day I picked up gun from my local dealer. They worked flawlessly, just like the handgun. The only thing I would wish for is some slightly larger sights, but they were good enough shooting at range targets.

The 3 dot night sights on my Sig P250 are better, but everything else about the 92s is much better to me. I expect it will get even better with a little practice.
The single action trigger alone was worth the purchase to me.

I may experiment with some bright dots on my standard sights to see if my sight picture is slightly improved. It is easy to remove if it doesn't help.
Hey, I am on the wrong side of 70 so I need all the help I can get.

[carguychris]

Originally Posted by AustinTX

If any of you who bought these pistols want additional historically "correct," factory-original 92S mags, they're on sale at the site below for $25/ea... The site says the sale will go on for 72 hours, but unless I'm missing something obvious, it doesn't say when the sale started. So if you want them at this price, you have somewhere between one second and ~71.5 hours to buy them.

Thanks for the tip. As of 30min ago, the sale was still going on, and I ordered some.

My pistol came in over the weekend and I put ~120rds through it on Sunday. I'll post pictures and a brief range report when I have time.

[LockedBreech]

Originally Posted by AustinTX

If any of you who bought these pistols want additional historically "correct," factory-original 92S mags, they're on sale at the site below for $25/ea, which is an excellent price. They're usually hard to come by, and they sell for a lot more than that.

The site says the sale will go on for 72 hours, but unless I'm missing something obvious, it doesn't say when the sale started. So if you want them at this price, you have somewhere between one second and ~71.5 hours to buy them.

https://apexgunparts.com/product_inf...oducts_id/1679

Outstanding, thank you. I have a good stash of 92FS mags but the plastic base pad looks super dorky on the 92S.

[LynnTX]

Yep - they are now listed at $39.00 each.

[WVsig]

Missed out on those mags...

[LockedBreech]

Speaking of hard-to-find Beretta 92S parts, was there ever a nice wood or aluminum grip made for the 92S? I'm not loving the plastic grips.

[WVsig]

Grip makers can cut most any grip to accommodate the heel style mag release. I am sure there are some wood ones floating around but it might be hard to find them off the shelf.