Good Decapping Die for 223 - Page 2

locknloader · January 30, 2018, 09:27 AM

Lee universal decapping die here, i just went through 1-2k decapping spree of 223 LC once fired brass and no major issues to speak of. Had a few primers that just did not want to come out so i trashed the case. I dont know how guys are snapping the pins on the lee die.... i even purposefully tried to snap it by putting the decapper in the wrong position on the press so there was nowhere for the primer to drop out, all it did was raise the pin up as designed, then i loosened the collet, set the pin flush, and tightened back up and was good to go. I hate my 9mm lee dies but this decapper actually works well.

Joe-ker · January 30, 2018, 10:53 AM

Cw you better check your last word in your post- I think you meant quantity.

I like the line about friends not letting friends buy lee

I will say this is the exception. Also a cheap lee press with the uni decap die is nice to have a permanent station set up for this. That's how I roll.

Northof50 · January 30, 2018, 10:58 AM

locknloader - Yep. Based on all the recommendations, I picked up a Lee UDD. I had forgotten that Lee uses the "collet" system for their pins, rather than a threaded rod. My first set of .357 dies were Lee. I hated that system, as the collet never held the pin strong enough on my particular die set. But, on a 223 die, I can see where a sliding pin would be better than a threaded, as the pin would slide within the collet rather than bending or snapping. Seems to be a more sturdy pin than those that were in my Lymann die.

cw308 · January 30, 2018, 03:55 PM

Joe-ker
Your right , it was an A H moment . It did make my laugh though . To late to correct so forever I won't be loading for quality . One time I was answering a post from the Pipe guy the I pad changed it to Tit guy . Never heard from him again.

Chris

Fotheringill · January 30, 2018, 04:39 PM

I have a dedicated RCBS decapping die in .223.
I also have a Lee Collet neck die with a decapping pin and a Redding and a RCBS Competition neck die.
It is not that hard to snap the pin on the Lee if you don't have the case firmly in the shellholder or any neck sizing die or even the dedicated ones. If not centered reasonably well, the pin with hit the rim on the mouth of the case and snap. If you feel the ram stop short of where it should, don't push it.

When doing "volume" work, sometimes one gets sloppy. Take a bit more time and you won't be ordering five Lee pins at a time.

**Unclenick** · January 30, 2018, 04:52 PM

I'd like to see a case mouth break a decapping pin. The other way around, sure. I think maybe you meant the inside of the head web adjacent to the primer pocket. Reasonable centering accuracy (within half a flash hole diameter) is good, but a little bit of wiggle room to allow self-centering of an off-center flash hole is also good.

cw308 · January 30, 2018, 08:53 PM

What I do on my RCBS Universal decapper die , I sandwich a O Ring between two washers placed on to the shaft on top of the die and lightly snug the lock nut down . Shouldn't be using force in popping a primer or seating. Fotheringill , hope things are going well. Say hello to the guy's for me , see you when weather gets warmer .

Chris

January 30, 2018, 10:53 AM	#27
Joe-ker Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2016 Location: North Iowa Posts: 247	Cw you better check your last word in your post- I think you meant quantity. I like the line about friends not letting friends buy lee I will say this is the exception. Also a cheap lee press with the uni decap die is nice to have a permanent station set up for this. That's how I roll. __________________ From my cold dead hands.....

January 30, 2018, 04:52 PM	#31
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,733	I'd like to see a case mouth break a decapping pin. The other way around, sure. I think maybe you meant the inside of the head web adjacent to the primer pocket. Reasonable centering accuracy (within half a flash hole diameter) is good, but a little bit of wiggle room to allow self-centering of an off-center flash hole is also good. __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle

January 30, 2018, 09:27 AM	#26
locknloader Senior Member Join Date: August 28, 2017 Posts: 164	Lee universal decapping die here, i just went through 1-2k decapping spree of 223 LC once fired brass and no major issues to speak of. Had a few primers that just did not want to come out so i trashed the case. I dont know how guys are snapping the pins on the lee die.... i even purposefully tried to snap it by putting the decapper in the wrong position on the press so there was nowhere for the primer to drop out, all it did was raise the pin up as designed, then i loosened the collet, set the pin flush, and tightened back up and was good to go. I hate my 9mm lee dies but this decapper actually works well.

January 30, 2018, 10:58 AM	#28
Northof50 Junior member Join Date: January 5, 2018 Location: Northeast USA Posts: 232	locknloader - Yep. Based on all the recommendations, I picked up a Lee UDD. I had forgotten that Lee uses the "collet" system for their pins, rather than a threaded rod. My first set of .357 dies were Lee. I hated that system, as the collet never held the pin strong enough on my particular die set. But, on a 223 die, I can see where a sliding pin would be better than a threaded, as the pin would slide within the collet rather than bending or snapping. Seems to be a more sturdy pin than those that were in my Lymann die.

January 30, 2018, 03:55 PM	#29
cw308 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2010 Location: Plainview , Long Island NY Posts: 3,863	Joe-ker Your right , it was an A H moment . It did make my laugh though . To late to correct so forever I won't be loading for quality . One time I was answering a post from the Pipe guy the I pad changed it to Tit guy . Never heard from him again. Chris

January 30, 2018, 04:39 PM	#30
Fotheringill Senior Member Join Date: August 26, 2014 Posts: 114	I have a dedicated RCBS decapping die in .223. I also have a Lee Collet neck die with a decapping pin and a Redding and a RCBS Competition neck die. It is not that hard to snap the pin on the Lee if you don't have the case firmly in the shellholder or any neck sizing die or even the dedicated ones. If not centered reasonably well, the pin with hit the rim on the mouth of the case and snap. If you feel the ram stop short of where it should, don't push it. When doing "volume" work, sometimes one gets sloppy. Take a bit more time and you won't be ordering five Lee pins at a time.

January 30, 2018, 08:53 PM	#32
cw308 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2010 Location: Plainview , Long Island NY Posts: 3,863	What I do on my RCBS Universal decapper die , I sandwich a O Ring between two washers placed on to the shaft on top of the die and lightly snug the lock nut down . Shouldn't be using force in popping a primer or seating. Fotheringill , hope things are going well. Say hello to the guy's for me , see you when weather gets warmer . Chris