I'm a newbie and have a question - coyotes! - Page 2

"JJ" · August 6, 2014, 10:35 AM

Well like someone else mentioned the likelyhood of a steady shot is very slim!
A off hand head shot in the twisted position offered from a tractor seat with open sights at 50 yards is a task. Add an unsteady platform and the odds that the one .22 bullet hits it's target gets even slimmer!
However a 3" 20 ga has 18 .24 diameter pellets that travle around 1100 fps! So it would be like you have 18 22LR rifles on the tractor with ya!

You would need to pattern the shotgun to see what choke tube works best in your shotgun.
You might also look at some BB and BBB loads! They are still close to the >22 size and they would allow you to launch even more rounds in the air!

And unless you are wanting to recover them, them running off to die keeps you from having to deal with them!

Mosin-Marauder · August 6, 2014, 11:15 AM

What part NC do you live in? If the piedmont like me, I would use a rifle over a shotgun, as coyotes tend to be at moderate to long range over here. A Savage Axis in .308 would suit you well, moderate recoil, and most of it is absorbed by the recoil pad. They're fairly good shooters (good enough for coyote with a good scope and they're very well priced. Of course, this is all from my experience. Heck, might even want to look into a good lever action like the marlin 336. The 30-30 is a good round for coyote and doesn't have much recoil, they're good up until about 150-200 yards with standard flat nose ammo and greater distance with Hornady's new LeveRevolution ammo. Anyway, good luck with whatever you decide to purchase.

Art Eatman · August 6, 2014, 09:29 PM

Foxes and coyotes get used to a tractor/shredder mowing a pasture. I've had foxes and hawks work on field-mice within shotgun range. Fun to watch them. No coyotes in my part of CenTex, back then. East of me ten or fifteen miles, different story.

tahunua001 · August 7, 2014, 11:13 AM

yep, some farmers actually prefer the coyotes because they'll also eat field mice and other varmints that eat crops, so the coyotes aren't nearly as skiddish on those properties because they know that humans aren't a threat.

Gaitsofheaven · August 12, 2014, 12:24 PM

Well, I got two shots off with my shotgun yesterday at about 60 yards and I couldn't reach the coyote, who actually gave me a chance with my Browning pump with #4 in it! Sooooo, today I bought myself a birthday present that didn't break the bank and I can strap on my ROPS of my tractor for the next time - a Savage .243 bolt with a scope! Those dogs are closing in and I'm going to war! They were in the horse paddock last night right up close to the house! Going to sight it in today - wish me luck!

Grizz12 · August 12, 2014, 12:45 PM

with a scoped savage .243 I think the coyote is the one who needs some luck

Gaitsofheaven · August 12, 2014, 02:45 PM

I'm hoping you're right!

Panfisher · August 12, 2014, 03:56 PM

.243 Vs. coyote at 60 yards, thats gonna leave a mark as they say. Do you hve an ATV boot type case you put it in and strap to the ROPS?

603Country · August 12, 2014, 05:11 PM

I'm smiling. When you expect those critters to be at 40 yards, they'll be at 60. It's some obscure rule of the universe that causes those type problems. I think that 243 will do just fine. Since it's scoped, it would be good to have it in something that won't transmit all the bounces to the gun. It might put the POI off just a bit, which brings in another one of those laws of the universe. That ATV boot, if it's foam lined, should work pretty well. The scabbard might work Ok too. Sight in the rifle, bounce it around in the tractor for a while and recheck the sights.

Now that I put an Air Soft seat on my tractor, I'm riding in comfort. Anything else on the tractor, however, is still bouncing. I've had to put my Margaritas in a sippy cup (kidding).

Send pictures of the first couple of coyotes. We are all following your coyote-blasting with interest.

Signal-0 · August 12, 2014, 07:34 PM

Just be careful with the rifle... back drop and all. Want to really go to work on them, get a caller. I love calling yotes, got these behind my house here in central Florida.

loic · August 12, 2014, 08:02 PM

Nice yotes ! Here they are smaller. Just dropped 2 nights ago with my ar

I usually take my 22-250 to hunt and really really like that rifle.

To the op, a 22-250 will get the job done easily and very little recoil. First I was going to suggest a used 30-30 as they can be had for around $300 and will definetly get the job done but the recoil is a lot more than a 20 g

Gaitsofheaven · August 12, 2014, 11:23 PM

@Panfisher - I bought a military foam lined scabbard and modified it somewhat and rigged it so I can pull it out quickly and smoothly. I'm going to set up a night camera tomorrow near a path I think they're using to see what's out there.

August 7, 2014, 11:13 AM	#29
tahunua001 Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 7,839	yep, some farmers actually prefer the coyotes because they'll also eat field mice and other varmints that eat crops, so the coyotes aren't nearly as skiddish on those properties because they know that humans aren't a threat. __________________ ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar. I never said half the stuff people said I did-Albert Einstein You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin

August 12, 2014, 12:24 PM	#30
Gaitsofheaven Junior Member Join Date: July 31, 2014 Posts: 9	Well, I got two shots off with my shotgun yesterday at about 60 yards and I couldn't reach the coyote, who actually gave me a chance with my Browning pump with #4 in it! Sooooo, today I bought myself a birthday present that didn't break the bank and I can strap on my ROPS of my tractor for the next time - a Savage .243 bolt with a scope! Those dogs are closing in and I'm going to war! They were in the horse paddock last night right up close to the house! Going to sight it in today - wish me luck! Last edited by Gaitsofheaven; August 12, 2014 at 02:43 PM.

August 6, 2014, 10:35 AM	#26
"JJ" Senior Member Join Date: March 23, 2010 Location: NE Texas Posts: 576	Well like someone else mentioned the likelyhood of a steady shot is very slim! A off hand head shot in the twisted position offered from a tractor seat with open sights at 50 yards is a task. Add an unsteady platform and the odds that the one .22 bullet hits it's target gets even slimmer! However a 3" 20 ga has 18 .24 diameter pellets that travle around 1100 fps! So it would be like you have 18 22LR rifles on the tractor with ya! You would need to pattern the shotgun to see what choke tube works best in your shotgun. You might also look at some BB and BBB loads! They are still close to the >22 size and they would allow you to launch even more rounds in the air! And unless you are wanting to recover them, them running off to die keeps you from having to deal with them!

August 6, 2014, 11:15 AM	#27
Mosin-Marauder Senior Member Join Date: April 18, 2014 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,320	What part NC do you live in? If the piedmont like me, I would use a rifle over a shotgun, as coyotes tend to be at moderate to long range over here. A Savage Axis in .308 would suit you well, moderate recoil, and most of it is absorbed by the recoil pad. They're fairly good shooters (good enough for coyote with a good scope and they're very well priced. Of course, this is all from my experience. Heck, might even want to look into a good lever action like the marlin 336. The 30-30 is a good round for coyote and doesn't have much recoil, they're good up until about 150-200 yards with standard flat nose ammo and greater distance with Hornady's new LeveRevolution ammo. Anyway, good luck with whatever you decide to purchase.

August 6, 2014, 09:29 PM	#28
Art Eatman Staff in Memoriam Join Date: November 13, 1998 Location: Terlingua, TX; Thomasville, GA Posts: 24,798	Foxes and coyotes get used to a tractor/shredder mowing a pasture. I've had foxes and hawks work on field-mice within shotgun range. Fun to watch them. No coyotes in my part of CenTex, back then. East of me ten or fifteen miles, different story.

August 12, 2014, 12:45 PM	#31
Grizz12 Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2012 Posts: 527	with a scoped savage .243 I think the coyote is the one who needs some luck

August 12, 2014, 02:45 PM	#32
Gaitsofheaven Junior Member Join Date: July 31, 2014 Posts: 9	I'm hoping you're right!

August 12, 2014, 03:56 PM	#33
Panfisher Senior Member Join Date: July 30, 2010 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,337	.243 Vs. coyote at 60 yards, thats gonna leave a mark as they say. Do you hve an ATV boot type case you put it in and strap to the ROPS?

August 12, 2014, 05:11 PM	#34
603Country Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2011 Location: Thornton, Texas Posts: 4,039	I'm smiling. When you expect those critters to be at 40 yards, they'll be at 60. It's some obscure rule of the universe that causes those type problems. I think that 243 will do just fine. Since it's scoped, it would be good to have it in something that won't transmit all the bounces to the gun. It might put the POI off just a bit, which brings in another one of those laws of the universe. That ATV boot, if it's foam lined, should work pretty well. The scabbard might work Ok too. Sight in the rifle, bounce it around in the tractor for a while and recheck the sights. Now that I put an Air Soft seat on my tractor, I'm riding in comfort. Anything else on the tractor, however, is still bouncing. I've had to put my Margaritas in a sippy cup (kidding). Send pictures of the first couple of coyotes. We are all following your coyote-blasting with interest.

August 12, 2014, 07:34 PM	#35
Signal-0 Member Join Date: August 11, 2014 Location: Central Florida Posts: 32	Just be careful with the rifle... back drop and all. Want to really go to work on them, get a caller. I love calling yotes, got these behind my house here in central Florida.

August 12, 2014, 08:02 PM	#36
loic Senior Member Join Date: March 27, 2014 Posts: 162	Nice yotes ! Here they are smaller. Just dropped 2 nights ago with my ar I usually take my 22-250 to hunt and really really like that rifle. To the op, a 22-250 will get the job done easily and very little recoil. First I was going to suggest a used 30-30 as they can be had for around $300 and will definetly get the job done but the recoil is a lot more than a 20 g

August 12, 2014, 11:23 PM	#37
Gaitsofheaven Junior Member Join Date: July 31, 2014 Posts: 9	@Panfisher - I bought a military foam lined scabbard and modified it somewhat and rigged it so I can pull it out quickly and smoothly. I'm going to set up a night camera tomorrow near a path I think they're using to see what's out there.