TulAmmo - Page 2

pgdion · July 17, 2012, 01:16 PM

Naw Chris, I think cetanner was referring to the shells, not the bullets. Some ranges only want brass (one by me doesn't allow steel or aluminum, just brass cased ammo). My guess is the same, the must sell off the brass and they don't want to have to sort it (although a magnet would extract the steel stuff easy enough

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warningshot · July 17, 2012, 03:51 PM

It is Ok if the Ruskie ammo isn't much good as long as it's cheap and there is alot of it.

Is that the latest excuse Range personnel are using to keep Ruskie ammo off the range, 'It might be a fire hazzard'? I get treatebd badly enough by some people, but from a fellow shooter? Why can't they just say your range fees arn't high enough to cover the extra clean-up & disposal costs involved in cleaning-up after steel cases?

carguychris · July 17, 2012, 11:27 PM

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Naw Chris, I think cetanner was referring to the shells, not the bullets. Some ranges only want brass...

I'm well aware that he/she was talking about the cases. My point is that many ranges are more concerned about the dangers posed by steel in the bullets, and/or the potential loss of revenue from having to shut lanes down because the target hangers and/or the backstops have been shot to pieces.

Many range managers care less about pistol cases than many shooters assume. (Rifle cases are another story, but I digress.) Most busy urban ranges collect more pistol brass than they can possibly sell at retail, and sorting the cases is a dirty, inefficient job that often has a low rate of return. Many ranges sell most of their pistol cases to a scrapper or a reloading company by weight, and these companies are well equipped to filter out the steel cases and other trash.

IOW if your local range has bags of cases for sale, you might be surprised to learn that those bags were purchased from somewhere else, or only represent a very small percentage of the brass they collect.

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Is that the latest excuse Range personnel are using to keep Ruskie ammo off the range, 'It might be a fire hazzard'?

Many outdoor ranges are shoestring operations. If a wildfire spreads to the clubhouse and firing line, they could be shut down permanently.

seeker_two · July 18, 2012, 09:00 AM

At a gun show this weekend, I noticed that TulAmmo has started making .357Mag ammo. Anyone else see or try it yet?

Webleymkv · July 20, 2012, 01:41 PM

To update my previous post, I ran a box of TulAmmo 9mm through my CZ-75 Wednesday afternoon and, as expected, had no problems of any kind. I did notice that the recoil and muzzle flash seemed a bit more pronounced than that of the Federal Champion that we also had at the range (my dad was trying out his new-to-him S&W 5906), but not to a huge degree.

pturner67 · July 21, 2012, 02:28 PM

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I ran a box of TulAmmo 9mm through my CZ-75 Wednesday afternoon and, as expected, had no problems of any kind. I did notice that the recoil and muzzle flash seemed a bit more pronounced than that of the Federal Champion that we also had at the range

Webley, what do you mean by more pronounced? I'm asking because I have not used Tula 9mm in my CZ but I've run Tula through my AR and the recoil was considerably less. Is the 9mm Tula recoil more or less than the Federal?

Thanks

microman · July 21, 2012, 07:34 PM

I've had no problems using Tula or Brown Bear Russian ammo.

Webleymkv · July 22, 2012, 01:50 PM

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I ran a box of TulAmmo 9mm through my CZ-75 Wednesday afternoon and, as expected, had no problems of any kind. I did notice that the recoil and muzzle flash seemed a bit more pronounced than that of the Federal Champion that we also had at the range

Webley, what do you mean by more pronounced? I'm asking because I have not used Tula 9mm in my CZ but I've run Tula through my AR and the recoil was considerably less. Is the 9mm Tula recoil more or less than the Federal?

The recoil of the Tula was heavier and the flash was more visible than that of the Federal Champion. As far as the .223 is concerned, my experience mirrors yours in that the recoil, blast, and flash of the Tula is noticably less in my Saiga than Federal Champion 55gr FMJ (not that the recoil of a 9mm or .223 is all that heavy anyway).

pturner67 · July 22, 2012, 02:27 PM

interesting...thanks Webley...I'm buying ammo today and gonna try some out

Botswana · July 22, 2012, 05:49 PM

Bought a 150 rounds of .45 ACP for my next range trip. Feel kind of bad because I cleaned out the local Wal-Mart, but if it wasn't me it would just be someone else.

sailskidrive · July 22, 2012, 06:09 PM

I've found the Tula .45ACP to be pretty decent. I also shoot their 308 on occasion out of a PTR91 and a SIG716; it will hold 10 inch groups at 200 yards beyond that the groups really open up pretty quick.

The .223 and 9mm that I've shot was pretty bad and I haven't bought it again.

July 17, 2012, 01:16 PM	#26
pgdion Senior Member Join Date: April 22, 2010 Location: MPLS, MN Posts: 1,214	Naw Chris, I think cetanner was referring to the shells, not the bullets. Some ranges only want brass (one by me doesn't allow steel or aluminum, just brass cased ammo). My guess is the same, the must sell off the brass and they don't want to have to sort it (although a magnet would extract the steel stuff easy enough ) __________________ 597 VTR, because there's so many cans and so little time!

July 18, 2012, 09:00 AM	#29
seeker_two Senior Member Join Date: August 31, 2002 Location: Deep in the Heart of the Lone Star State (TX) Posts: 2,169	At a gun show this weekend, I noticed that TulAmmo has started making .357Mag ammo. Anyone else see or try it yet? __________________ Proud member of Gun Culture 2.0......

July 22, 2012, 06:09 PM	#36
sailskidrive Senior Member Join Date: October 26, 2008 Posts: 726	I've found the Tula .45ACP to be pretty decent. I also shoot their 308 on occasion out of a PTR91 and a SIG716; it will hold 10 inch groups at 200 yards beyond that the groups really open up pretty quick. The .223 and 9mm that I've shot was pretty bad and I haven't bought it again. __________________ SailSkiDrive Hk USP 45 Expert, USP 40, USP 9, SIG P226, S&W M&P9, Hk 4, Makarov, Desert Eagle 40, Beretta FS92 Centurion, Kimber TLEII 1911A1, Glock 22, SIG P225, 1943 Rem Rand 1911A1, S&W mod 64, Walther PPQ, SIG P229, Browning BDA 45 (SIG P220), Hk45, SIG P230

July 17, 2012, 03:51 PM	#27
warningshot Senior Member Join Date: October 8, 2009 Posts: 995	It is Ok if the Ruskie ammo isn't much good as long as it's cheap and there is alot of it. Is that the latest excuse Range personnel are using to keep Ruskie ammo off the range, 'It might be a fire hazzard'? I get treatebd badly enough by some people, but from a fellow shooter? Why can't they just say your range fees arn't high enough to cover the extra clean-up & disposal costs involved in cleaning-up after steel cases?

July 20, 2012, 01:41 PM	#30
Webleymkv Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 10,610	To update my previous post, I ran a box of TulAmmo 9mm through my CZ-75 Wednesday afternoon and, as expected, had no problems of any kind. I did notice that the recoil and muzzle flash seemed a bit more pronounced than that of the Federal Champion that we also had at the range (my dad was trying out his new-to-him S&W 5906), but not to a huge degree.

July 21, 2012, 07:34 PM	#32
microman Senior Member Join Date: February 6, 2011 Posts: 428	I've had no problems using Tula or Brown Bear Russian ammo.

July 22, 2012, 02:27 PM	#34
pturner67 Senior Member Join Date: February 26, 2006 Posts: 737	interesting...thanks Webley...I'm buying ammo today and gonna try some out

July 22, 2012, 05:49 PM	#35
Botswana Senior Member Join Date: July 4, 2012 Posts: 203	Bought a 150 rounds of .45 ACP for my next range trip. Feel kind of bad because I cleaned out the local Wal-Mart, but if it wasn't me it would just be someone else.