1860 Army - tight cylinder - Page 2

enyaw · June 16, 2011, 01:26 PM

Simple Guns?

Tanker6 · June 16, 2011, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enyaw

Like the person that agrees about the simple guns,simple solutions to simple problems and Learned a lot from Pettifoggers articles. Well I guess it would be simple enough to read the articles and decipher the info. What about before reading the articles?

That would be me.

Perhaps you'd like to go back and re-read (if you read it fully in the first place) my post. "...I'm going to post some pretty complicated stuff that came out in the SASS Cowboy Chronicle..." Gee, that sounds like it might be a tad more than a "simple solution."

Also, while you're at it, try going back and re-reading the entire thread. The original poster stated, "I noticed after the first cylinder, it became fairly difficult to cock the gun, and stayed that way for the remaining 5 cylinders. It seemed that something was impeding the cylinder from freely rotating." The following posts related various reasons why this may be.

One of the reasons addressed was cylinder headspace and fouling buildup on the cylinder face. My post, to include Pettifogger's articles, were intended to shed some light on that guy's fix for the problem. I've read them....several times. I find the solution to be harder than the problem, but it is interesting to review the thoughts of someone who's probably a lot smarter than me on the subject.

Problem: "Fouling builds up on cylinder face. Makes gun hard to cock/cycle."

Simple Solution: "File down forcing cone to allow more headspace."

Pettifogger's Solution: "Problem exists because arbor too short. Lenghten arbor."

If you didn't catch some of the other potential problems and associated solutions, try this.

Problem: "Goop in arbor. Makes gun hard to cock/cycle."

Simple Solution: "Bore butter on the arbor of a Colt style revolver and a lubed wad between the powder and ball will ensure your revolver wil run trouble free for ten to fifteen cylinders full over three days under normal conditions."

Next time, before you hammer someone's else's response, try reading first rather than posting War & Peace.

Fingers McGee · June 16, 2011, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tanker6

Next time, before you hammer someone's else's response, try reading first rather than posting War & Peace.

They do get a little long winded

enyaw · June 17, 2011, 09:29 AM

Hammer someones reply?

pohill · June 19, 2011, 04:47 PM

War and Peace was never that informative. I gotta thank enyaw for taking the time for that post. Over the years, I've found that enyaw knows more about cap and ball revolvers and rifles than just about any "published" gunsmith out there. He also makes the best lube pills available.

Smokin_Gun · June 20, 2011, 07:01 PM

I agree with Pohill on Enyaw's experiance & wisdom when it comes to Gun repair or shootin' these things ...
Although I din't get to read the Deleted posts which I can imagine were long and detailed ... someone screwed up if he deleted them.
Too Bad, or Enyaw was just bein' polite...

Tanker6 · June 21, 2011, 01:14 PM

I guess I've gone and "ruined the stew" for everyone else, and for that I apologize to the rest of you. enyaw's post included a portion which I found to be a personal insult to me and another poster here. I guess he got his underwear in a wad over my reply post at #27 above and deleted his posts and went home.

I may disagree with a poster on this or some other board. Disagreement, however, doesn't mean I (or anyone else) should belittle that person's opinion or post. I've been set straight a few times here by someone who has a greater knowledge level than I have. When I post, I try to insure that I don't over reach my knowledge base. I try to post what I know. If I'm not sure, I say so in the post. Providing another poster with new information doesn't have to be an insult.

If you're the smartest guy in the room....great. Educate us, but don't belittle. Now I guess I'll go to my room.

Smokin_Gun · June 21, 2011, 11:40 PM

Tanker6 I agree with you on on what you said about disagreeing and belittling someone. And if that's what you read in the forum you have every right to feel what you do...
This is the primary reason I'm not in this forum and a couple others as often or hardly at all anymore. People react to an interpertation of what someone typed ... and it ain't always the same ya know?
I have three of my own forums and Admin some others and don't seem to have this trouble.
To get back to what was deleted and why... I'll tell ya this much when I talked with Enyaw yesturday he said you were the one that had the best Reply and liked what ya said... so Tanker6 it wasn't you.
I don't really care to know what happened I was just commenting on what my friend Pohill typed, and my knowledge of a friend I've known for many years Enyaw.
It's a damn shame to have to read people arguing in these forums ... life is too short and everyone likes what they like. Why can't it be left at that?
Good post there Tanker6 and as far as I'm concered you need not apologize for anything... Come back outta yur room and Play

SG

enyaw · June 22, 2011, 08:51 AM

Things can be easy to misinterprete and I wouldn't intentionally belittle or insult anyone on a forum. It's unfortunate that happened. Sorry Tanker6.
People new to cap&ballers can find the guns more complicated than simple. They may feel slighted if others replies describribe what confused them enough to post a question as "simple". Might make them feel someone thinks they're simple.
I just tried to show "my opinion" about how "the dark of the unknown" inexperienced Hombres may encounter make the guns more complicated and not "simple". That's all. Just my opinion about how inexperienced Hombres may be intimidated by what's all new to them.
I didn't want the person that started the post in the first place to feel belittled by others opinion the guns are "simple". Some see the guns that way and some see them as complicated to some degree.
Tanker,you would have had to misinterprete my reply if you were insulted since that wasn't by any stretch what was intended.
People just have different opinions at times and that's alright. That's good actually. That's how we learn from one another.
I'll try to be more careful in forums and write better. I ain't a writter and haven't written any books as Pohill has. I should have him give me lessons on composition or something.

Sorry you felt insulted Tanker6. That wasn't what I intended. I'll be more careful in these forums.It's easy to misinterprete what's typed.
I just erased my other replies since I figgered people want to read about "guns&stuff" and not about people gettin the hairs on their backs stickin up.

As far as I'm concerned everything is cool. My underwear is straightened out.

I hope the initial poster gets his cylinder turnin freer and enjoys his cap&baller revolver. Better go before I start postin "War and Peace again.

That was funny.

Take care Pards,
Wayne(Enyaw,Rifle,Blue Tick,Waynerinskisteiner,Wayner)

Tanker6 · June 22, 2011, 12:49 PM

Oh heck. Now I feel like the heel.

All apologies, whether necessary or not, are fully accepted. Sorry I got my underwear knotted.

I guess the biggest problem with the written word is that you don't necessarily get to hear the manner in which it is intended to be said. Because of that, a misinterpretation of those written words can happen. I read what I read and took it the way I took it. If that was incorrect, I apologize.

I write a lot for my line of work. I've even hired myself out as a "ghost writer" for ad copy before (it was for a friend, so no, I won't write your ad

). I guess my lesson here is that I need to be a bit more tolerant and less judging. I hope others will take this little "frackas" and learn my lesson by observation rather than falling into the same hole I did.

Let's talk about guns and such. This matter, as far as I'm concerned, is done.

June 16, 2011, 01:26 PM	#26
enyaw Senior Member Join Date: November 28, 2008 Posts: 134	Simple Guns? Last edited by enyaw; June 18, 2011 at 09:44 AM.

June 17, 2011, 09:29 AM	#29
enyaw Senior Member Join Date: November 28, 2008 Posts: 134	Hammer someones reply? Last edited by enyaw; June 18, 2011 at 09:40 AM.

June 19, 2011, 04:47 PM	#30
pohill Senior Member Join Date: December 27, 2005 Location: northeast Posts: 521	War and Peace was never that informative. I gotta thank enyaw for taking the time for that post. Over the years, I've found that enyaw knows more about cap and ball revolvers and rifles than just about any "published" gunsmith out there. He also makes the best lube pills available.

June 20, 2011, 07:01 PM	#31
Smokin_Gun Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 2005 Location: Mojave Desert, CA Posts: 1,195	I agree with Pohill on Enyaw's experiance & wisdom when it comes to Gun repair or shootin' these things ... Although I din't get to read the Deleted posts which I can imagine were long and detailed ... someone screwed up if he deleted them. Too Bad, or Enyaw was just bein' polite...

June 21, 2011, 01:14 PM	#32
Tanker6 Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 193	I guess I've gone and "ruined the stew" for everyone else, and for that I apologize to the rest of you. enyaw's post included a portion which I found to be a personal insult to me and another poster here. I guess he got his underwear in a wad over my reply post at #27 above and deleted his posts and went home. I may disagree with a poster on this or some other board. Disagreement, however, doesn't mean I (or anyone else) should belittle that person's opinion or post. I've been set straight a few times here by someone who has a greater knowledge level than I have. When I post, I try to insure that I don't over reach my knowledge base. I try to post what I know. If I'm not sure, I say so in the post. Providing another poster with new information doesn't have to be an insult. If you're the smartest guy in the room....great. Educate us, but don't belittle. Now I guess I'll go to my room.

June 21, 2011, 11:40 PM	#33
Smokin_Gun Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 2005 Location: Mojave Desert, CA Posts: 1,195	Tanker6 I agree with you on on what you said about disagreeing and belittling someone. And if that's what you read in the forum you have every right to feel what you do... This is the primary reason I'm not in this forum and a couple others as often or hardly at all anymore. People react to an interpertation of what someone typed ... and it ain't always the same ya know? I have three of my own forums and Admin some others and don't seem to have this trouble. To get back to what was deleted and why... I'll tell ya this much when I talked with Enyaw yesturday he said you were the one that had the best Reply and liked what ya said... so Tanker6 it wasn't you. I don't really care to know what happened I was just commenting on what my friend Pohill typed, and my knowledge of a friend I've known for many years Enyaw. It's a damn shame to have to read people arguing in these forums ... life is too short and everyone likes what they like. Why can't it be left at that? Good post there Tanker6 and as far as I'm concered you need not apologize for anything... Come back outta yur room and Play SG

June 22, 2011, 08:51 AM	#34
enyaw Senior Member Join Date: November 28, 2008 Posts: 134	Things can be easy to misinterprete and I wouldn't intentionally belittle or insult anyone on a forum. It's unfortunate that happened. Sorry Tanker6. People new to cap&ballers can find the guns more complicated than simple. They may feel slighted if others replies describribe what confused them enough to post a question as "simple". Might make them feel someone thinks they're simple. I just tried to show "my opinion" about how "the dark of the unknown" inexperienced Hombres may encounter make the guns more complicated and not "simple". That's all. Just my opinion about how inexperienced Hombres may be intimidated by what's all new to them. I didn't want the person that started the post in the first place to feel belittled by others opinion the guns are "simple". Some see the guns that way and some see them as complicated to some degree. Tanker,you would have had to misinterprete my reply if you were insulted since that wasn't by any stretch what was intended. People just have different opinions at times and that's alright. That's good actually. That's how we learn from one another. I'll try to be more careful in forums and write better. I ain't a writter and haven't written any books as Pohill has. I should have him give me lessons on composition or something. Sorry you felt insulted Tanker6. That wasn't what I intended. I'll be more careful in these forums.It's easy to misinterprete what's typed. I just erased my other replies since I figgered people want to read about "guns&stuff" and not about people gettin the hairs on their backs stickin up. As far as I'm concerned everything is cool. My underwear is straightened out. I hope the initial poster gets his cylinder turnin freer and enjoys his cap&baller revolver. Better go before I start postin "War and Peace again. That was funny. Take care Pards, Wayne(Enyaw,Rifle,Blue Tick,Waynerinskisteiner,Wayner)

June 22, 2011, 12:49 PM	#35
Tanker6 Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 193	Oh heck. Now I feel like the heel. All apologies, whether necessary or not, are fully accepted. Sorry I got my underwear knotted. I guess the biggest problem with the written word is that you don't necessarily get to hear the manner in which it is intended to be said. Because of that, a misinterpretation of those written words can happen. I read what I read and took it the way I took it. If that was incorrect, I apologize. I write a lot for my line of work. I've even hired myself out as a "ghost writer" for ad copy before (it was for a friend, so no, I won't write your ad ). I guess my lesson here is that I need to be a bit more tolerant and less judging. I hope others will take this little "frackas" and learn my lesson by observation rather than falling into the same hole I did. Let's talk about guns and such. This matter, as far as I'm concerned, is done.