Let me try again, Chiappa

[Vilhelm]

So, now we are all tall, beautiful, blonde hair with blue eyes

riggggggggggggghhhhhttt

[oilfieldguy]

I see a lot of empties in the picture, but I would still like to see someone ELSE fire 50 rounds through it before I tried one...

[FrankenMauser]

I see a lot of empties in the picture, but I would still like to see someone ELSE fire 50 rounds through it before I tried one...

Get a better life and dismemberment insurance policy.


I'll buy one, as soon as the price hits a mark I'm comfortable with.

[Skans]

The ad picture makes this thing look deceptively small. I saw a youtube video on this and the thing is much bigger than it appears. I thought that this was going to be a more concealable firearm, but from what I can tell, it isn't.

[Magnum Wheel Man]

but I'm curious about aimed fire with the sights so far away from the bore axis ??? about lik shooting an old school AR with the scope mounted on the handle

[ARA]

That first, poorly translated review indicates that the Chiappa Rhino shoots well and evidently quite fast for a revolver. Good to know.

Since when is the primary consideration for buying a handgun a sexy appearance? Come now, form over function? Reality, please.

As for carrying it, I carry a Ruger Super Redhawk Alaskan .454 in a SOB holster, and it's a horse compared to this .357. The hexagonal cylinder ought to make it a benign carry.

[Casimer]

Here's a blog post w/ specifics on the models, release date, and price + more pictures..

http://dailygunpictures.blogspot.com...rect-from.html

[Cheapshooter]

You sure the Rhino wasn't designed by Hi-Point to make their semi-autos look good.

[Newton24b]

if you dont THINK that a revolver can be accurate if the sights are "sooo far" above the barrels axis, well

how can a scoped handgun, with the center of the sights the same rought distance away from the barrels center axis, be accurate?

[Vilhelm]

how can a scoped handgun, with the center of the sights the same rought distance away from the barrels center axis, be accurate

at close range...it can't

at long range it can

[FrankenMauser]

The same criticism of sight-line versus bore-line applies just as well to many pistols. One of the first to come to mind is the S&W 22(A?). On most models, there is more than an inch from the sights, to the bore center. By the argument presented here, it shouldn't be accurate.

What about the old Webleys with 9 foot tall front ramps? Some of them were big enough to use for log-splitting.

Have you ever seen a Browning Buckmark with a red dot sight on it? I have. The issue is even worse, in this case - yet, they are just as accurate.

A good marksman doesn't need excuses like, "the sights are too far from the bore". They know the weapon, and compensate accordingly (if it's even needed -- enough practice makes it second nature).

[darkgael]

"the sights are too far from the bore"

+1 about that as an excuse. Did you ever see some of the setups for pistol silhouette competition with scope bases six or more inches high? They work.
Besides....this is a snubbie, not exactly designed for precision shooting. Point shooting I should think.
Pete

[tekarra]

It is not as classy looking as a S&W or Colt, but I sure would like to shoot one before rendering an opinion.

[Cheapshooter]

It is not as classy looking as a S&W or Colt, but I sure would like to shoot one before rendering an opinion.

I rendered my opinion when I looked up the price! $800!!!!

[Vilhelm]

the flight of a projectile is an arc

the sight picture is a straight line

the farther the line of sight is from the barrel the more limited the practical accuracy is at any given distance

think of it this way, if two people stand next and they had laser pointers aimed at the same target, the beams would intersect for longer than if they were 10 feet apart.

[darkgael]

the flight of a projectile is an arc

the sight picture is a straight line

the farther the line of sight is from the barrel the more limited the practical accuracy is at any given distance

Yes. In many cases, though, the arc is so shallow that it is only marginally different than a straight line. A flat shooting rifle - a 40 grain bullet from a .204 will have an arc two inches away from LOS at its greatest deflection over 250 yards - not much of an arc.
In the case of a two inch barreled snub nose, the question is moot for any practical use. The intended use is in a confrontation most probably at a distance of about three yards. I suggest that the arc of any bullet fired from the Rhino or any other pistol is pretty flat over nine feet.
They are called "belly guns" for a reason.
Pete

[Giorgio]

and above all, in italian "chiappa" = "buttock".

[Mal H]

Originally Posted by Vilhelm

think of it this way, if two people stand next [to each other] and they had laser pointers aimed at the same target, the beams would intersect for longer than if they were 10 feet apart.

That's not a good analogy. If laser pointers (or any sighted instrument) are "aimed at the same target", the beams would intersect at only one point - the target. That is true no matter how far apart the pointers are.

Giorgio - even though it's always foolish to question a word's definition in someone's native language, I will anyway. Are you sure chiappa means buttock? Is it a slang term? I always thought the word was "natica".

[XD Gunner]

Also that's not a hammer spur at the rear of the frame, it's a cocking arm. The hammer is fully internal.

Looks like it could be problematic if it's dirty.

[cerberus65]

Garzanti confirms Giorgio's translation. I had to look it up though because I've never heard it. It rather looks like a verb to me (i.e. chiappalo - grab him - typically said to someone who's child is running off). Perhaps it's a word that has entered Italian from the Romano dialect.

Oh and Italians really do run the whole gamut from very dark to blonde hair/blue eyes. Last year, standing in JFK, someone looking for help spoke first to my niece who has blond hair/green eyes. The other three of us had brown hair/brown eyes. And funnily enough, she also spoke the least English of the four of us.

Having seen Rhino pictures a couple of times now, my reaction is: un po' bruttina e anche costosa, ma vi auguro bene - solo perché non piace a me non significa che non piacerà ad altri.

[Giorgio]

Giorgio - even though it's always foolish to question a word's definition in someone's native language, I will anyway. Are you sure chiappa means buttock? Is it a slang term? I always thought the word was "natica".

Mal H, imagine to say: "what a nice cheek you have". Chiappa is Cheek (not that on your face ) "Natica" is the anatomic word.

Garzanti confirms Giorgio's translation. I had to look it up though because I've never heard it. It rather looks like a verb to me (i.e. chiappalo - grab him - typically said to someone who's child is running off). Perhaps it's a word that has entered Italian from the Romano dialect.

Exactly, it's romano slang, but now is current spoken italian.

Having seen Rhino pictures a couple of times now, my reaction is: un po' bruttina e anche costosa, ma vi auguro bene - solo perché non piace a me non significa che non piacerà ad altri.

lol!!! That's true!!! Great Kerberos! Ugly, expensive, but...

And for the curious this is me. Gray hair, blue eyes, 6" - 210 lbs. 55yo That's all.

[Horseless Trooper]

I kinda like the looks. Kinda"Blade Runner"ish. I don't like the looks enough to pony up $800 though. Bring it down to $450 or so and I might go for it.

[DT Guy]

Isn't it nice that someone ISN'T copying a century old design (*cough 1911*) or just making endless variations on the same old things (mmmm....Grock)?

Innovation includes the possibility of failure, but without innovation our grand kids will be shooting the same kind of guns our grandparents did.

And I, for one, an anxious for my ray gun.

Larry

[Cheapshooter]

Innovation is one thing. A stupid looking, butt-ugly expensive firearm is another.
Hi-Points are butt-ugly, but they sell for around a buck and a quarter! Not $800!
Glocks were innovative, FN Five-seveN is innovative, The Rhino is just hideous .

[darkgael]

Beauty is in the eye.....and all that. As noted earlier.....what difference does its appearance make when it is being used? (I like its looks. Don't think it's hideous at all - industrial, efficient.)

Glocks were innovative, FN Five-seveN is innovative, The Rhino is just hideous .

Innovation vs appearance. Not a good comparison. (BTW - both Glocks and the FN have been called ugly guns right here on this forum. I own them both and don't agree with those assessments either).
Cost - S&Ws list from 600 to over 1000 dollars. An old copy of Gun Digest (2007) shows the S&W 629 at $813.00. The Chiappa Rhino is competitive.
Pete