Is buying cheap pistols an addiction? - Page 2

IMTHDUKE · March 6, 2010, 07:32 PM

My wife would like it better it I could get the cheap addiction

rickyjames · March 6, 2010, 07:50 PM

"Hi-Point on the other hand is the only automatic pistol i would not hesitate to play Russian Roulette with. "

i have a hi point and a bullet i can lend you

seriously though, my hi point is one gun that has never failed to fire.....ever!
so i hope your kidding cause it would be a big mess and someone might miss you......maybe

SwampYankee · March 6, 2010, 11:14 PM

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Ahh, the advantage of having so many she doesn't even know when a new one shows up!

I'll give you that. She knows I have a "black" gun and a "silver" gun. Little does she know I've got at least half-a-dozen of each. Tee-hee-hee....

N.H. Yankee · March 7, 2010, 07:21 PM

Cheap guns, cheap woman, cheap booze, sounds like the makings of a great spaghetti western, whats not to love, except all three can kill you, but then again, one may die with a .

I've always felt I'd rather own one real good gun than three cheap ones, but then again the cheap ones can be more interesting, GUNS that is, not woman.

aarondhgraham · March 7, 2010, 07:48 PM

I have the high quality handguns I want or feel I need,,,
S&W 629, S&W 15, S&W 36, Colt Trooper Mk III, Ruger SP101, and a few other fine (expensive) guns.

I decided I want a 9mm for fun and games at the range,,,
Since I will never carry a semi for protection,,,
Why spend a ton-o-cash on a range toy.

I bought a Hi-Point and it serves that purpose just fine,,,
4 boxes of ammo and not one problem yet,,,
And it cost me $159.00 new.

I have a very nice Colt Frontier Scout for cowboy plinking,,,
I'm considering a Heritage .22 of some kind,,,
So I have one for friends to use.

For your defense gun, or your serious competition gun, buy quality,,,
And that usually translates to a hefty price tag.

Once you have those needs/desires satisfied,,,
There's no reason to not buy a cheapie if you want to.

After all, Guns and their wielders secured the right for you make your own choices.

Ain't it kewl?

FreakGasolineFight · March 8, 2010, 01:04 AM

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Hi-Point on the other hand is the only automatic pistol i would not hesitate to play Russian Roulette with.

You can go right ahead and borrow mine if you want ... but you need to bring a friend, 'cause there's no way I'm going to clean up that mess

New_Member_Name · March 8, 2010, 01:30 AM

for me, being a college student, you bet i will use a cheap gun. i seem to have a fetish for kel tec's specifically, but i love em. they always fire, and after break in, i dont usually have any problems with stovepipes. i just bought a new p3at and i smiled when i bought it and smiled when i shot it. its a GREAT carry weapon, even if it is cheap small and ugly. but on the other hand i have a ruger and S&W. but for me to spend that kind of money, not gonna happen too often. i think as long as you trust that weapon, and it will do its intended job, you feel safer, and doesnt make you go without, i say get the cheap ones.

rpm71 · March 8, 2010, 12:23 PM

I don't understand this "I'am better than you" attitude people have about everything. We have many choices in this great country but people either want to put people down or tell people what to do. Your team is not as good as mine, your car is not as good as mine, your house is not as good as mine,
your religious beliefs are not as good as mine and so on.
Why do people have to rag on every thing someone else does in life?
I bought a Hi-Point .45 acp a couple of months ago and all I here from is a bunch of people putting it down. Have you ever fired one? or do you believe what people say without any proof. I think John Kennedy was shot by five people am I to believe it just because someone may have said it sometime.
I had to retire last year because I had my second back surgery. A Hi-Point was what I could afford. Does that mean that I will not buy a better gun in the future, no it doesn't. It gets me shooting till I can afford a better gun.
You do not build yourself up by putting others down.You only look like some one who thinks they are better than everyone else.

greyson97 · March 8, 2010, 12:27 PM

its one thing if you have 1 $150 gun, and its another thing where you have 10 guns, all of them from $100 to $300, ie, if you saved up your money you could have purchased a $2000-$2500 gun

Cheapshooter · March 8, 2010, 01:52 PM

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I bought a Hi-Point .45 acp a couple of months ago and all I here from is a bunch of people putting it down. Have you ever fired one? or do you believe what people say without any proof.

rpm71, this says it all.

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/2993751/

ford191145 · March 8, 2010, 03:15 PM

Well,
When I was single buying expensive pistols was an addiction.
Before I had kids buying expensive pistols was an addiction.
After A wife and 3 kids, now buying cheap pistols is an addiction.

Cheapshooter · March 8, 2010, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Well,
When I was single buying expensive pistols was an addiction.
Before I had kids buying expensive pistols was an addiction.
After A wife and 3 kids, now buying cheap pistols is an addiction

And when you get to my age and retire, the kids are grown and out, BOTH become an addiction!!

BigJimP · March 8, 2010, 03:32 PM

My friend OneOunce says in his signature line ....on this forum...

"The bitterness of poor quality is remembered long after the sweetness of low price has faded from memory.” - Aldo Gucci

but finding a good deal, on a good gun that you really want ...is worth the search. In fact sometimes the search is more fun than actually having the new gun ....

A friend of mine bought a used Wilson Combat 1911 last week for $ 1,900. It was in great shape / a very good buy - for a gun new that would be about $ 2,850 the way it was configured. Although I wasn't going to boost it out from under him / if he had passed on it ...I was going to buy it. I was happy for him - he made a great buy ! Cheap - No. Inexpensive - maybe, depends on your perspective ...but he was prepared to spend $ 2,850 for a new one ....so you be the judge. I think its a gun he'll keep for 3 generations / and be proud to own for a very long time...a great find in my opinion.

greyson97 · March 8, 2010, 03:34 PM

yeah, a bunch of people in the thread i asked about lever action rifles said, in 20 years from now, you wont remember how much you paid for that particular gun, just how well it performed, if you still have it

Baphomet · March 8, 2010, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BigJimP

My friend OneOunce says in his signature line ....on this forum...

"The bitterness of poor quality is remembered long after the sweetness of low price has faded from memory.” - Aldo Gucci

I think your friend might be a bit confused...

The "bitterness of poor quality" quote is attributed to Leon Cautillo.

I believe your friend might have been thinking of the Gucci family motto which is, and I quote, "Quality is remembered long after the price is forgotten."

IMTHDUKE · March 8, 2010, 06:46 PM

Now, your confusing me.....was it Jay Leno that said what or was it the other one that said both?

Ichiro · March 8, 2010, 06:50 PM

I don't seem to buy guns for keeps; I just rent them long-term.

My wife currently owns 2 of the first 10 handguns I've ever purchased. The other 8 have been sold, traded, or given away. If she hadn't become attached to those two and thus claimed them for herself, we'd have none of those first 10 right now.

11 through 14 may see a little less turnover. I want to get rid of only one of those four right now, and maybe a second one in the next year or so.

So, no. I don't like collecting. But if I did, it would be the cheapies, and probably multiple copies of a few designs.

IMTHDUKE · March 8, 2010, 06:54 PM

rpm71...Welcome to the forum and what insightful first post. Thanks

N.H. Yankee · March 8, 2010, 07:37 PM

The problem with cheap guns, even if they are reliable, is resale, there are a few shops that won't even consider taking in trade what they consider a cheap gun. Also resale value is a bit lower percentage wise verses a high end gun. High end guns may increase quite a bit in value as years pass, cheap ones barely if ever increase in value. I've owned a few good cheap guns, bought 3 SKS rifles at a show for $100.00 total and all three shot as good as any of the 8 SKS rifles I've owned and were reliable. I more than tripled my money a couple years later.

Cheapshooter · March 8, 2010, 07:45 PM

REASALE

WHAT'S THAT?

w_houle · March 8, 2010, 08:43 PM

(entire rant is before I found the internet)
Resale? That's where you buy a gun for $700 and have a hard time convincing anyone to buy it off you for $300
...But now that I am more financially stable and figured out that I don't need to spend as much to have guns that I'm happy with.
Like my Mitchell Luger: Bought it, shot it, had fun with it, but then stuff happened and I had to move. No big deal, but needed cash... yeah, I got hosed:barf:
NOW... I paid $70 for my Jennings 9mm and have put over 300 rounds through it. It doesn't matter how much I sell it for, whatever it is can't possibly be considered a loss... Even if I took a hammer to it.

See, I've done this a few times, and yeah... dollar value per round count estimates have shown me that cheap guns have been easier on my wallet for a number of reasons

m&p45acp10+1 · March 8, 2010, 09:29 PM

I bought a S&W 9mm back in the dark days of the hi cap ban. It has a 15 round mag. Price was $185 cash out the door.

I bought it because it was a cheap price. It is reliable with a nice trigger in both DA and SA. It now resides in my stepmom's gun purse

.
Next low cost one was a Bersa Thunder 45 UC. Price was $200 plus a detail job on the owner of the gunstore's conversion van. I carried that one for 5 years. My dad carries it now. I retired it for my M&P full size. (Which is on my hip as I type here at the corner BBQ place having a nice hot brisket plate with tater salad, and pickles, and a desert of bannana pudding

)
Next bargain bin gun was a Polish P-64 (9mm Mak). It was $200 OTD. Included were 400 rounds of ammo, and a pocket holster. It is in my pocket now, as as a back up to the .45.
Somewhere in between I purchased a 22lr Rough Rider. It does what I use it for well. so that is 4 that I have purchased in the sub $250 price range. If I had it to do all over again I would have bought the other 3 S&W 9mm that he had at the time.

Mastiff · March 8, 2010, 11:31 PM

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its one thing if you have 1 $150 gun, and its another thing where you have 10 guns, all of them from $100 to $300, ie, if you saved up your money you could have purchased a $2000-$2500 gun

Why on Earth would I WANT a $2500 gun????
I outshot guys with $1500 to $2000 guns with my $89 Norinco Tokarev (Most got really really torqued about it). I'm perfectly happy with my firearms purchases. I have absolutely no desire nor need to own $2500 guns. When you have a gun that is reliable and accurate, that fits your hand and you can shoot well, what is the sense of paying ten times (or more)? It certainly makes no sense to me.

ford191145 · March 9, 2010, 02:19 AM

I have some 2k + guns.
Honestly, I dont see the need for them anymore since I quit shooting IDPA, USPSA. Yeah they are nice, but I can buy a Kimber for Half of that and it still shoots as accurate as I need for punching paper and for any self defense situation. Hell I could spend $500 and still get a new gun that is fine for punching paper and is as accurate as I would need for any self defense situation.
The only problem I would see with some of the real inexpensive guns are will they be reliable enough for me. That can be quickly found out with some range time.

New_Member_Name · March 9, 2010, 07:54 AM

Mastiff, you echoed my thoughts exactly... just because you can, doesnt mean you should. for those that have money to burn, literally.. the fact that you can buy a 2K dollar gun, great. more power to you. i would NEVER even think about spending that kind of money on a handgun. 2000 dollars could buy A LOT of ammo for a 300 dollar gun. i'm not knocking ppl who do have a gun worth that much, i think its good that you are financially able to afford one. but dont expect ALL of us to have one. as for me, i will continue buying my cheap guns.

March 6, 2010, 07:32 PM	#26
IMTHDUKE Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2004 Location: Sweet Home Alabama Posts: 1,475	The cheaper the better is my montra.... My wife would like it better it I could get the cheap addiction __________________ http://www.treasureislandbedandbreakfast.com Ed Brown Alpha Carry\| Sig P238, P938, P232, 1911 C3 \| Colt Defender, Mustang Pocketlite, 1911 \| Rohrbaugh R9 \| Browning, Buckmark 22LR(suppressed) \| Kahr PM9 Black Rose \| S&W\|M&P C.O.R.E RMR Trijicon \| Dan Wesson ECO

March 7, 2010, 07:21 PM	#29
N.H. Yankee Senior Member Join Date: October 17, 2004 Location: Rural N.H. Posts: 1,586	Cheap guns, cheap woman, cheap booze, sounds like the makings of a great spaghetti western, whats not to love, except all three can kill you, but then again, one may die with a . I've always felt I'd rather own one real good gun than three cheap ones, but then again the cheap ones can be more interesting, GUNS that is, not woman. Last edited by N.H. Yankee; March 8, 2010 at 07:32 PM.

March 7, 2010, 07:48 PM	#30
aarondhgraham Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2009 Location: Stillwater, OKlahoma Posts: 8,638	There's a place for cheap(er) guns,,, I have the high quality handguns I want or feel I need,,, S&W 629, S&W 15, S&W 36, Colt Trooper Mk III, Ruger SP101, and a few other fine (expensive) guns. I decided I want a 9mm for fun and games at the range,,, Since I will never carry a semi for protection,,, Why spend a ton-o-cash on a range toy. I bought a Hi-Point and it serves that purpose just fine,,, 4 boxes of ammo and not one problem yet,,, And it cost me $159.00 new. I have a very nice Colt Frontier Scout for cowboy plinking,,, I'm considering a Heritage .22 of some kind,,, So I have one for friends to use. For your defense gun, or your serious competition gun, buy quality,,, And that usually translates to a hefty price tag. Once you have those needs/desires satisfied,,, There's no reason to not buy a cheapie if you want to. After all, Guns and their wielders secured the right for you make your own choices. Ain't it kewl? __________________ Never ever give an enemy the advantage of a verbal threat. Caje: The coward dies a thousand times, the brave only once. Kirby: That's about all it takes, ain't it? Aarond is good,,, Aarond is wise,,, Always trust Aarond! (most of the time)

March 8, 2010, 12:23 PM	#33
rpm71 Junior Member Join Date: March 6, 2010 Location: Dayton,Ohio go BUCKS Posts: 1	inexpensive handguns I don't understand this "I'am better than you" attitude people have about everything. We have many choices in this great country but people either want to put people down or tell people what to do. Your team is not as good as mine, your car is not as good as mine, your house is not as good as mine, your religious beliefs are not as good as mine and so on. Why do people have to rag on every thing someone else does in life? I bought a Hi-Point .45 acp a couple of months ago and all I here from is a bunch of people putting it down. Have you ever fired one? or do you believe what people say without any proof. I think John Kennedy was shot by five people am I to believe it just because someone may have said it sometime. I had to retire last year because I had my second back surgery. A Hi-Point was what I could afford. Does that mean that I will not buy a better gun in the future, no it doesn't. It gets me shooting till I can afford a better gun. You do not build yourself up by putting others down.You only look like some one who thinks they are better than everyone else.

March 8, 2010, 06:46 PM	#41
IMTHDUKE Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2004 Location: Sweet Home Alabama Posts: 1,475	Now, your confusing me.....was it Jay Leno that said what or was it the other one that said both? __________________ http://www.treasureislandbedandbreakfast.com Ed Brown Alpha Carry\| Sig P238, P938, P232, 1911 C3 \| Colt Defender, Mustang Pocketlite, 1911 \| Rohrbaugh R9 \| Browning, Buckmark 22LR(suppressed) \| Kahr PM9 Black Rose \| S&W\|M&P C.O.R.E RMR Trijicon \| Dan Wesson ECO

March 6, 2010, 07:50 PM	#27
rickyjames Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2009 Posts: 558	"Hi-Point on the other hand is the only automatic pistol i would not hesitate to play Russian Roulette with. " i have a hi point and a bullet i can lend you seriously though, my hi point is one gun that has never failed to fire.....ever! so i hope your kidding cause it would be a big mess and someone might miss you......maybe

March 8, 2010, 01:30 AM	#32
New_Member_Name Member Join Date: January 17, 2010 Posts: 76	for me, being a college student, you bet i will use a cheap gun. i seem to have a fetish for kel tec's specifically, but i love em. they always fire, and after break in, i dont usually have any problems with stovepipes. i just bought a new p3at and i smiled when i bought it and smiled when i shot it. its a GREAT carry weapon, even if it is cheap small and ugly. but on the other hand i have a ruger and S&W. but for me to spend that kind of money, not gonna happen too often. i think as long as you trust that weapon, and it will do its intended job, you feel safer, and doesnt make you go without, i say get the cheap ones.

March 8, 2010, 12:27 PM	#34
greyson97 Senior Member Join Date: June 29, 2009 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,284	its one thing if you have 1 $150 gun, and its another thing where you have 10 guns, all of them from $100 to $300, ie, if you saved up your money you could have purchased a $2000-$2500 gun

March 8, 2010, 03:15 PM	#36
ford191145 Junior Member Join Date: March 12, 2006 Location: KCMO Posts: 11	Well, When I was single buying expensive pistols was an addiction. Before I had kids buying expensive pistols was an addiction. After A wife and 3 kids, now buying cheap pistols is an addiction.

March 8, 2010, 03:32 PM	#38
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	My friend OneOunce says in his signature line ....on this forum... "The bitterness of poor quality is remembered long after the sweetness of low price has faded from memory.” - Aldo Gucci but finding a good deal, on a good gun that you really want ...is worth the search. In fact sometimes the search is more fun than actually having the new gun .... A friend of mine bought a used Wilson Combat 1911 last week for $ 1,900. It was in great shape / a very good buy - for a gun new that would be about $ 2,850 the way it was configured. Although I wasn't going to boost it out from under him / if he had passed on it ...I was going to buy it. I was happy for him - he made a great buy ! Cheap - No. Inexpensive - maybe, depends on your perspective ...but he was prepared to spend $ 2,850 for a new one ....so you be the judge. I think its a gun he'll keep for 3 generations / and be proud to own for a very long time...a great find in my opinion.

March 8, 2010, 03:34 PM	#39
greyson97 Senior Member Join Date: June 29, 2009 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,284	yeah, a bunch of people in the thread i asked about lever action rifles said, in 20 years from now, you wont remember how much you paid for that particular gun, just how well it performed, if you still have it

March 8, 2010, 06:50 PM	#42
Ichiro Senior Member Join Date: July 16, 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 888	I don't seem to buy guns for keeps; I just rent them long-term. My wife currently owns 2 of the first 10 handguns I've ever purchased. The other 8 have been sold, traded, or given away. If she hadn't become attached to those two and thus claimed them for herself, we'd have none of those first 10 right now. 11 through 14 may see a little less turnover. I want to get rid of only one of those four right now, and maybe a second one in the next year or so. So, no. I don't like collecting. But if I did, it would be the cheapies, and probably multiple copies of a few designs.

March 8, 2010, 06:54 PM	#43
IMTHDUKE Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2004 Location: Sweet Home Alabama Posts: 1,475	rpm71...Welcome to the forum and what insightful first post. Thanks __________________ http://www.treasureislandbedandbreakfast.com Ed Brown Alpha Carry\| Sig P238, P938, P232, 1911 C3 \| Colt Defender, Mustang Pocketlite, 1911 \| Rohrbaugh R9 \| Browning, Buckmark 22LR(suppressed) \| Kahr PM9 Black Rose \| S&W\|M&P C.O.R.E RMR Trijicon \| Dan Wesson ECO

March 8, 2010, 07:37 PM	#44
N.H. Yankee Senior Member Join Date: October 17, 2004 Location: Rural N.H. Posts: 1,586	The problem with cheap guns, even if they are reliable, is resale, there are a few shops that won't even consider taking in trade what they consider a cheap gun. Also resale value is a bit lower percentage wise verses a high end gun. High end guns may increase quite a bit in value as years pass, cheap ones barely if ever increase in value. I've owned a few good cheap guns, bought 3 SKS rifles at a show for $100.00 total and all three shot as good as any of the 8 SKS rifles I've owned and were reliable. I more than tripled my money a couple years later.

March 8, 2010, 07:45 PM	#45
Cheapshooter Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 8,306	REASALE WHAT'S THAT?

March 8, 2010, 08:43 PM	#46
w_houle Senior Member Join Date: March 29, 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,391	(entire rant is before I found the internet) Resale? That's where you buy a gun for $700 and have a hard time convincing anyone to buy it off you for $300 ...But now that I am more financially stable and figured out that I don't need to spend as much to have guns that I'm happy with. Like my Mitchell Luger: Bought it, shot it, had fun with it, but then stuff happened and I had to move. No big deal, but needed cash... yeah, I got hosed:barf: NOW... I paid $70 for my Jennings 9mm and have put over 300 rounds through it. It doesn't matter how much I sell it for, whatever it is can't possibly be considered a loss... Even if I took a hammer to it. See, I've done this a few times, and yeah... dollar value per round count estimates have shown me that cheap guns have been easier on my wallet for a number of reasons

March 8, 2010, 09:29 PM	#47
m&p45acp10+1 Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2009 Location: Central Texas Posts: 3,947	Low price without sacrificing reliability I bought a S&W 9mm back in the dark days of the hi cap ban. It has a 15 round mag. Price was $185 cash out the door. I bought it because it was a cheap price. It is reliable with a nice trigger in both DA and SA. It now resides in my stepmom's gun purse . Next low cost one was a Bersa Thunder 45 UC. Price was $200 plus a detail job on the owner of the gunstore's conversion van. I carried that one for 5 years. My dad carries it now. I retired it for my M&P full size. (Which is on my hip as I type here at the corner BBQ place having a nice hot brisket plate with tater salad, and pickles, and a desert of bannana pudding) Next bargain bin gun was a Polish P-64 (9mm Mak). It was $200 OTD. Included were 400 rounds of ammo, and a pocket holster. It is in my pocket now, as as a back up to the .45. Somewhere in between I purchased a 22lr Rough Rider. It does what I use it for well. so that is 4 that I have purchased in the sub $250 price range. If I had it to do all over again I would have bought the other 3 S&W 9mm that he had at the time. __________________ No matter how many times you do it and nothing happens it only takes something going wrong one time to kill you.

March 9, 2010, 02:19 AM	#49
ford191145 Junior Member Join Date: March 12, 2006 Location: KCMO Posts: 11	I have some 2k + guns. Honestly, I dont see the need for them anymore since I quit shooting IDPA, USPSA. Yeah they are nice, but I can buy a Kimber for Half of that and it still shoots as accurate as I need for punching paper and for any self defense situation. Hell I could spend $500 and still get a new gun that is fine for punching paper and is as accurate as I would need for any self defense situation. The only problem I would see with some of the real inexpensive guns are will they be reliable enough for me. That can be quickly found out with some range time.

March 9, 2010, 07:54 AM	#50
New_Member_Name Member Join Date: January 17, 2010 Posts: 76	Mastiff, you echoed my thoughts exactly... just because you can, doesnt mean you should. for those that have money to burn, literally.. the fact that you can buy a 2K dollar gun, great. more power to you. i would NEVER even think about spending that kind of money on a handgun. 2000 dollars could buy A LOT of ammo for a 300 dollar gun. i'm not knocking ppl who do have a gun worth that much, i think its good that you are financially able to afford one. but dont expect ALL of us to have one. as for me, i will continue buying my cheap guns.